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    In one sentence: When the frontiers of geology overlap with the frontlines of contested regions, international collaborations help protect minerals core to our civilization.

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    Overview:
    There’s a world of minerals in every electronic device. Anything that cannot be grown must be mined, Emily King tells us. A global mining expert and founder of Prospector Portal, Emily shares stories and advancements in the finding, protecting, and stewarding of minerals.

    From digitizing and structuring disparate datasets sourced around the globe, to mobilizing with armed teams to identify and secure minerals critical to humanity’s future, our conversation takes a journey from the rocks beneath us to the rocks above us, where advanced space technologies further our understanding of lunar regolith, Martian soil, and frozen asteroids – as well as the legal and commercial implications of their mining.

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    Show Notes:
    → Episode page, transcript, and podcast listening links: https://toughtechtoday.com/mine-prospecting/
    → Emily King on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-scott-king/
    → Prospector Portal (company): https://www.prospectorportal.com/
    → On the Rocks (podcast): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-rocks/id1536817770
    → Watch this show on Youtube: https://youtu.be/mcE96CrNgpo

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    [12:46] Focused’s focus
    [14:18] Biggest misconception about fusion in venture capital
    [17:52] Comparison of risks between fusion, fission, and autonomous driving industry
    [20:57] Developing in public vs private sector
    [24:48] Founding story of Focused Energy
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    [34:30] Balancing cooperation and competition
    [36:16] Connections to government and politics
    [40:10] What’s on the whiteboard
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    [43:28] How does inertial fusion work?
    [48:30] Focused Energy is hiring




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    👏Credit Roll: 

    • Producers: Jonathan 'JMill' Miller and Forrest Meyen
    • Guests: Thomas Forner and Pravesh Patel
    • Hosts: JMill and Forrest Meyen
    • Editing: JMill
    • Transcript: JMill

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    👏Credit Roll: 

    • Producers: Jonathan 'JMill' Miller and Forrest Meyen
    • Guest: Francesco Sciortino
    • Hosts: JMill and Forrest Meyen
    • Editing: JMill
    • Transcript: Alan Yan and JMill
    • Blog Author: JMill
    • Art Design: JMill (stellarator icon credit Olena Panasovska)


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    📖Transcript:

    Transcript is viewable here: https://otter.ai/u/cEyXpgYNFKgTPRZWbR78cvc-88A

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    Guest: Preston Dunlap
    Hosts: JMill and Forrest Meyen
    Editing: JMill
    Transcript: Alan Yan and JMill
    Blog Author: JMill
    Art Design: JMill (Space Force emblem credit to United States Space Force.)

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    [4:58] Most exciting technology areas

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    [14:02] New emerging phenomena, e.g. unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAPs)

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    • Producers: Jonathan 'JMill' Miller and Forrest Meyen
    • Guest: Scarlett Koller
    • Hosts: JMill and Forrest Meyen
    • Editing: JMill
    • Transcript: Alan Yan and JMill
    • Blog Author: JMill
    • Art Design: JMill

    🔖Topic Timecodes:

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    Chad Anderson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chadson/
    Space Capital homepage: https://www.spacecapital.com

    👏Credit Roll: 
    Producers: Jonathan 'JMill' Miller and Forrest Meyen
    Guest: Chad Anderson
    Hosts: JMill and Forrest Meyen
    Editing: JMill
    Transcript: Alan Yan and JMill
    Blog Author: JMill
    Art Design: JMill

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    • [07:21] Recent transformations in the space market
    • [10:55] Space Capital’s first investment
    • [14:37] Identified the most promising seed stage startups
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    • Producers: Jonathan 'JMill' Miller and Forrest Meyen
    • Guest: Cheri Ackerman
    • Hosts: JMill, Forrest Meyen, Malvika Verma Miller
    • Editing: JMill
    • Transcript: Alan Yan and JMill
    • Blog Author: JMill
    • Art Design: JMill

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    • [5:57] Range of microbes the kChip can test
    • [8:31] Cheri’s cofounder, working from Killian Court at MIT
    • [9:27] Physicality of the kChip
    • [10:34] Business aspects of Concerto
    • [13:35] Manufacturing the kChip and scaling experiments
    • [14:50] Invention of kChip and toughest technical challenge at Concerto
    • [16:33] Different markets for kChip, different microbiomes
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    • [22:40] Value creation of Concerto
    • [24:32] Who owns the data and do Concerto’s partners care about it?
    • [26:17] Ag tech applications of microbes
    • [30:29] Microbes and relationship to synthetic biology
    • [33:33] Delivery mechanism and formulation of Concerto’s products
    • [35:07] Post-Series A. Focusing on eczema and then platform development
    • [36:14] Out-licensing at Concerto
    • [39:36] Upcoming technical milestones
    • [43:12] Cheri’s responsibilities, past experiences