Henry Fisher, Ph.D. - Drug Policy in the UK

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, renowned authors Gay & Katie Hendricks join host Paul F. Austin to share their insights on conscious loving and the impact of MDMA on relationships.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-238-drs-katie-and-gay-hendricks

Katie and Gay discuss their own journey of meeting and committing to each other, as well as the principles they teach in their work. They reflect on their early use of MDMA to facilitate a deeper connection and self-discovery in relationships. The conversation also explores their work with executives, the importance of commitment and authenticity, and how to balance personal and professional relationships.

Through unpacking their journey together, Katie and Gay reveal the power of turning concepts into experiential practices. They share their current and future projects, including Gay’s newest book “Your Big Leap Year.”

Gay Hendricks and Kathlyn Hendricks have been pioneers in the fields of body intelligence and relationship transformation for more than forty years. They’ve mastered ways to translate powerful concepts and life skills into experiential processes where people can discover their own body intelligence and easily integrate life-changing skills. Katie and Gay have empowered hundreds of coaches around the world to add a body intelligence perspective to enhance fields from medicine to sports psychology, education, and personal growth. Together and singly they have authored more than forty books, including such bestsellers as Conscious Loving, The Big Leap, Conscious Loving Ever After: How to Create Thriving Relationships at Midlife and Beyond, and The Genius Zone. They have appeared on more than 500 television and radio programs, including Oprah, 48 Hours and others.

In this conversation, Paul F. Austin and Dr. Cat Meyer discuss the expansive nature of sex and the importance of redefining it.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-237-cat-meyer-psyd-lmft

They explore the role of microdosing in enhancing vitality and connection, as well as the need for discernment and consent in relationships. Dr. Cat also provides a primer to play parties and offers advice on navigating new experiences safely and intentionally.

Dr. Cat Meyer, PsyD, LMFT is a licensed psychotherapist specializing in sex, trauma, and ketamine-assisted therapy, author, yoga teacher, and international speaker dedicated to evolving the relationship we have surrounding sexuality and our bodies. She is the host of the podcast Sex Love Psychedelics and the founder of SexLoveYoga.com, an online platform for education and programs on relationships, sexuality, and embodiment.

Highlights:

Expanding the definition of sex

Lessons from combining sex and psychedelics

Microdosing and sexual vitality

Vetting partners and building trust

Understanding play parties

Embodied consent

Resources on polyamory, tantra, and BDSM

Links:

Dr. Cat’s website: https://www.sexloveyoga.com/

Dr. Cat on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sexloveyoga/

Dr. Cat’s book, “sex love yoga”: https://amzn.to/4bF0p3T  

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Dillan DiNardo, CEO of Mindstate Design Labs, joins Paul F. Austin in exploring the use of AI to design human states of consciousness.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-236-dillan-dinardo/

Dillan shares his background growing up in a religious community and his journey into psychedelics. He discusses the origin story of Mindstate Design Labs, and the role of language and AI in understanding altered states of consciousness. Dillan also talks about his experience suing the DEA and winning, advocating for the research of psychoactive substances.

In this conversation, Dillan sheds light on unique approaches to psychedelic drug development. He envisions “expanding the psychedelic world” to design states of consciousness never before imagined—with therapeutic potential.

Dillan DiNardo is the CEO of Mindstate Design Labs, a next-generation psychedelic biotech company designing novel altered states of consciousness for mental health therapeutics. The company's mission is to map the biological basis of the varieties of psychedelic experience, enabling the precision design of novel altered states and a deeper understanding of the biological basis of consciousness. Mindstate Design Labs' backers include Y Combinator and founders of OpenAI, Neuralink, AngelList, Coinbase, Instacart, and Twitch.

Prior to Mindstate Design Labs, Dillan worked in a $1 billion venture fund, executing and managing biopharma, medical device, and health tech investments ranging from pre-seed to publicly traded companies.

Highlights:

Dillan’s journey from fundamentalist religious upbringing to finding psychedelics

Sasha and Ann Shulgin, Tom Ray, and the origin story of Mindstate Design Labs

Joining startup accelerator Y Combinator

Intentionally designing states of consciousness

The role of language and AI in altered states of consciousness

Suing the DEA and winning

Links:

Mindstate Design Labs: https://www.mindstate.design/

Dillan on Twitter: https://twitter.com/dillandinardo

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Vanessa Crites, founder of Sobriety of the Soul, joins Paul F. Austin to discuss the intersection of recovery and psychedelics.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-235-vanessa-crites/

Vanessa shares her personal journey of recovery and how she became interested in psychedelic medicine. She explores the intersection of recovery and psychedelics, highlighting the spiritual principles of the 12-step program and the history of psychedelics in Alcoholics Anonymous (AA). Vanessa unpacks her educational program, Sobriety of the Soul, which provides resources and support for individuals in recovery interested in working with psychedelics. She discusses the unique challenges faced by people in recovery, and the need to normalize the conversation around psychedelics within that group. She also emphasizes the importance of discernment when it comes to the intentional and responsible application of psychedelics in recovery.

Vanessa closes with resources and recommendations and shares her vision of sobriety of the soul as the next frontier for those in recovery.

Vanessa Crites

Vanessa Crites is a recovery strategist and educator dedicated to the thoughtful integration of psychedelics into sober living. She guides individuals towards profound healing and personal growth through mentorship and her flagship program Sobriety of the Soul. Drawing from a wealth of professional experience and personal recovery since 2005, Vanessa blends the rigor of evidence-based practices with the depth of spiritual wisdom to offer a safe and responsible pathway for those in recovery.

Rooted in 12-Step principles, Vanessa’s approach bridges the gaps between traditional recovery models and the expansive potential of psychedelics, delivering a holistic understanding that encompasses spiritual, emotional, and psychological well-being.
She is devoted to debunking misconceptions while championing harm reduction, prioritizing both personal and public well-being. Through her work, Vanessa illuminates a path beyond the confines of traditional sobriety approaches, guiding those in active recovery towards the empowerment of an awakened, authentic existence—what she calls “Soulful Sobriety.”

Highlights:

Vanessa’s recovery journey and path to psychedelics

The spiritual and psychedelic origins of AA and the 12 Steps of Recovery

How Bill Wilson’s LSD experiences impacted his recovery

Vanessa’s journey incorporating psychedelics into her recovery

Sobriety of the Soul’s origin story and programming

Synthetic vs. plant medicines for recovery

The discernment needed to avoid reliance on psychedelic experiences

Normalizing conversations about psychedelics in addiction recovery communities

Resources for psychedelics and recovery

Links:

Sobriety of the Soul: https://sobrietyofthesoul.com/join-sos961348?am_id=paul179

Vanessa’s free Recovery-Informed Microdose Guide: https://bit.ly/45FgylL

Bill Wilson’s article, “The Next Frontier: Emotional Sobriety”: https://silkworth.net/alcoholics-anonymous/the-next-frontier-emotional-sobriety/

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Join Paul F. Austin for an interesting weaving of meditation, psychedelics, and conscious leadership, with renowned executive coach Eric Kaufmann.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-234-eric-kaufmann/

This intimate conversation was recorded live from Eric’s “meditation temple” built beside his house in Southern California. Eric shares his journey from being kicked out of college to finding meditation and his early adventures integrating psychedelics into his meditation practice.

He reveals his insights from a year-long meditation retreat and emphasizes the growing need to bring humanity and spirituality to business. Eric lays out his two books and their roadmaps to conscious leadership. Finally, the two explore how psychedelics can be integrated into coaching to help leaders transcend “ego myopia,” which Eric sees as the biggest barrier to executive effectiveness and conscious leadership.

Eric Kaufmann:

Eric Kaufmann combines an unrelenting commitment to results with an unyielding regard for spirit. He is the product of forty years of Zen practice seamlessly woven into three decades of business leadership, both as a corporate leader and advisor to leaders.

Eric is an appointed Thought Leader at Harvard’s Institute of Coaching. He designed and taught the Coaching for Professionals program at San Diego State University, and has presented at TEDx. Author of The Four Virtues of a Leader and Leadership Breakdown, Eric is laser focused on teaching executives and leaders how to raise their game as human-centered leaders with bottom line accountability.

Eric’s teaching and guidance to clients such as Dr. Bronner’s, Verizon, ASML, Sunpower, Circle, SDG&E, Alcon, and Facebook, weaves in tried-and-true wisdom gleaned from more than 15,000 hours as an executive guide.

Eric has lived and worked on three continents, and managed and led at Fortune 100 firms. In addition to his degree in business, he is a certified Clinical Hypnotherapist and Master Scuba diving Instructor. In his previous life, he lived off the grid in a mountain cabin he built by himself. Eric is married for 25 years and is the blessed father of two remarkable young women who know how to navigate the Matrix.

Highlights:

Finding spiritual communion through meditation

From being kicked out of college to finding meditation

Eric’s early adventures integrating psychedelics into his meditation practice

Revelations from a year-long meditation retreat

Turning home and work life into spiritual practices

The growing need to bring humanity and spirituality to business

Cultivating community outside the workplace

How conscious business practices can shape culture

Unpacking the four virtues of a leader

Transcending ‘Ego Myopia’ to conscious leadership

Integrating psychedelic experiences through coaching

Eric’s vision for creating more conscious leaders

Learn more about Eric’s books

Links:

Eric’s website: http://www.sagatica.com/

Eric on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eric.kaufmann/

Eric on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickaufmann7

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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin is joined by Dave Asprey, the “father of biohacking," to explore altered states—from psychedelics to neurofeedback.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-233-dave-asprey/

Dave shares his journey from discovering yak butter tea in the Himalayas to revolutionizing biohacking. He unravels the intersection of biohacking and psychedelics, highlighting the potential benefits and risks of substances like ayahuasca. Then, Dave unpacks his 40 Years of Zen program, its unique neurofeedback approach, and the nuanced differences between neurofeedback and psychedelics.
Finally, Dave shares his vision for the evolution of humanity, emphasizing biohacking, consciousness, and reclaiming sovereignty.

Dave Asprey:

Dave Asprey is an award-winning entrepreneur and tech innovator known around the world as "The Father of Biohacking." He's a multi-New York Times and national bestselling author of Game Changers, Head Strong, The Bulletproof Diet, and Smarter Not Harder, the creator of Bulletproof Coffee, and the host of the Webby Award-winning #1 rated health show, The Human Upgrade Podcast (formerly Bulletproof Radio). Dave is the founder and CEO of Upgrade Labs, the first franchise of biohacking gyms, and Danger Coffee, his mineralized, mold-free coffee.

Over the last two decades Dave has worked with world-renowned doctors, researchers, scientists, and global mavericks to uncover the latest, most innovative methods, techniques, and products for enhancing mental and physical performance. Dave has personally spent over $2 million taking control of his own biology, pushing the bounds of human possibility all in the name of science evolution and revolution. The creator of the Bulletproof diet and innovator of Bulletproof Coffee, Collagen Protein supplements, and many more advances in commercial wellness products, Dave’s mission is to empower the entire globe with information and knowledge that unlocks the Super Human in everyone at any age. The proof of these advancements are better sleep, energy, and expanded capacity for all.

Highlights:

Discovering yak butter tea in the Himalayas

The power of coffee and nicotine

The journey of Bulletproof Coffee

Taking control of your biology through biohacking

Exploring altered states, from psychedelics to neurofeedback

The importance of psychedelic integration

The nexus of biohacking and psychedelics

Cautions around Ayahuasca and other psychedelics

Cultivating the ‘skills’ of forgiveness and gratitude

40 Years of Zen and neurofeedback

Dave’s vision for his own longevity and current projects

Shifting from victimhood to sovereignty

Final thoughts and recommendations

Links:

Dave’s website https://daveasprey.com/

Dave on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dave.asprey/

Dave on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Daveaspreyofficial/

40 Years of Zen: https://40yearsofzen.com/

Danger Coffee: https://dangercoffee.com/

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Paul F. Austin welcomes Sunny Strasburg, LMFT, to discuss utilizing IFS & psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy through the Theradelic Approach.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-232-sunny-strasburg-lmft/

Sunny discusses her multidisciplinary background and how she came to develop her unique therapeutic approach. She incorporates various modalities such as Internal Family Systems (IFS), Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR), and the Gottman Method in her work. Sunny emphasizes the importance of personal psychedelic experience for therapists and the need for ethical and well-trained practitioners in the field. She also shares her vision for the future and the challenges of scaling psychedelic therapy while maintaining integrity and respect for the mystery of the psychedelic experience.

Sunny Strasburg discusses the Theradelic Approach, which combines Internal Family Systems therapy and psychedelic-assisted therapy. She explains how working with internal parts can lead to self-compassion and coherence. Sunny also shares her experience facilitating Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy retreats with IFS founder Dick Schwartz, and how they help leaders in various industries lead with self-energy. The conversation then delves into the importance of ethics in artificial intelligence and the potential impact of psychedelics on the AI space. Sunny reflects on the lessons she has learned from plant medicine and emphasizes the importance of being in service and awe.

Sunny Strasburg, LMFT:

Sunny Strasburg, LMFT plays a multifaceted role in the fields of psychology and psychedelic therapy, encompassing education, consultation, authorship, and licensed psychotherapy.
Her notable literary achievement, "The Theradelic Approach: Psychedelic Therapy: Perspective, Preparation, and Practice," features a foreword by Dr. Richard Schwartz, the creator of the Internal Family Systems model. Through this work, Mrs. Strasburg distills insights drawn from her experiences as an educator, entrepreneur, and psychotherapist.
Sunny's professional journey encompasses proficiency in Internal Family Systems and archetypal psychology, alongside certification in Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR). As a graduate of Pacifica Graduate Institute and the California Institute of Integral Studies, Mrs. Strasburg holds additional certifications in Psychedelic Assisted Therapy and Research, with specialized knowledge and training in Ketamine, MDMA, and Psilocybin Assisted Psychotherapies.

Sunny is the originator and lead educator of The Theradelic Approach, a model of psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy. Her collaboration with Dr. Richard Schwartz and other prominent figures has led to impactful trainings and immersive retreats.
Converging the domains of Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy (KAP), Internal Family Systems (IFS), and Jungian psychology, Mrs. Strasburg has formulated innovative principles and methodologies that elevate therapeutic practices and the conscientious use of psychedelics within clinical frameworks.

Sunny's expertise finds expression in prominent conferences like The Psychedelic Summit 2023, Psychedelic Science 2023, SXSW 2023, and the 2023 Expanded States of Consciousness Worldwide Summit. Moreover, her contributions extend to engagements with the 2021 EMDRIA Worldwide Virtual Conference, and her involvement spans diverse platforms, including The Theradelic Approach training, Three Cups Psychedelics, Journey Clinical, Inbodied Training, EMDRIA UK, and the Boston Trauma Conference.

Highlights:

Introduction and background

Exploring IFS, EMDR, the Gottman Method, & the Theradelic Approach

Addressing gaps in psychedelic therapy training

The importance of personal psychedelic experience for therapists

Understanding trauma mapping

Dosage and frequency in ketamine-assisted therapy

Working with internal parts using IFS

ketamine-assisted psychotherapy retreats for leaders

Psychedelics, AI, and ethics

Lessons from plant medicine

Being in service and awe

Resources and trainings

Links:

Sunny’s website: https://sunnystrasburgtherapy.com/
  
Sunny’s book, “The Theradelic Approach”: https://thetheradelicapproach.com/

Sunny’s retreats: https://www.sunnystrasburgretreats.com/

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In this Psychedelic Podcast episode, host Paul F. Austin is joined by founder & CEO of Blueprint and the "world's most measured human."

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-231-bryan-johnson/

Delve into Bryan's journey from depression to a zest for life, and his extensive approach to longevity and health optimization.

Brian shares his approach to longevity and health optimization. He reveals the philosophy behind Blueprint, a system of intelligence that uses scientific evidence and algorithms to manage health and wellness.

He explains the concept behind Kernel, a brain mapping technology, and its relationship to psychedelic work. Additionally, Brian offers tips on the daily health practices, highlighting the importance of sleep.

This enlightening conversation imagines the future of longevity, exploring the balance of intelligence and compassion—and provides actionable habits for improving health and lifespan.

Bryan Johnson:

Bryan Johnson is the world's most measured human. Johnson sold his company, Braintree Venmo, to PayPal for $800m in 2013. Through his Project Blueprint, Johnson has achieved metabolic health equal to the top 1.5% of 18 year olds, inflammation 66% lower than the average 10 year old, and reduced his speed of aging by the equivalent of 31 years.
Johnson freely shares his protocols and data publicly for everyone to use. Project Blueprint, is an endeavor to achieve humanity and earth scale cooperation starting within Self.
In 2023, Johnson launched Rejuvenation Olympics, a leaderboard assessing one's speed of aging using DNA methylation. Of the 1,750 people who have been using this state-of-the-art aging algorithm to track their progress longitudinally, Johnson ranks #1 in speed of age reduction.

Johnson is also the founder & CEO of Kernel, creator of the world’s first mainstream non-invasive neuroimaging system; and OS Fund, where he invested $100M in the predictable engineering of atoms, molecules, and organisms into companies now collectively valued over $6B. He is an outdoor adventure enthusiast, pilot, and author of children’s books, Code 7 and The Proto Project.

Highlights:

The philosophy behind Blueprint’s longevity work.

Bryan’s journey from depression to a thirst for life.

Kernel neuroimaging.

Mapping the brain on psychedelics.

Blueprint and effective, actionable daily practices.

Sleep as a priority.

Follistatin gene therapy and mesenchymal stem cells.

Penis rejuvenation.

The Future of Longevity.

Links:

Bryan’s website: https://protocol.bryanjohnson.com/

Bryan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bryanjohnson_/?hl=en

Bryan on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BryanJohnson

Bryan on LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/bryan_johnson

The Myth of Sisyphus: https://amzn.to/48VccZP

(podcast) Precision-Performance Medicine: Longevity, Holistic Health, & Optimization - Daniel Stickler, M.D.: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-195-daniel-stickler-md/

(podcast) The Longevity Mindset: A Mind-Body Roadmap to Healthy Aging - Dr. Halland, M.D.: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-227-dr-halland-md/

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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin sits down with Phoenix White, founder of The Sacred Celestial.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-230-phoenix-white/

Recorded in-person at the 2023 Wonderland Conference in Miami, their conversation explores the art of curating transformational psychedelic ceremonies.

From postpartum mental health to creating safe, transformative, and memorable psychedelic containers, Phoenix delves into her journey, including two brain surgeries and her book, "Redefining Strong."

Join Phoenix as she unravels her own psychedelic insights on love, parenting, community, and self-actualization.

Phoenix White:

Phoenix White is revolutionizing the boundaries of mental health as a pioneering force in the realm of transformative healing, driven by an unapologetic dedication to fostering profound personal growth & self-exploration. She has mastered the art of merging spirituality, science, & radically curating immersive multi-sensory healing experiences. Her ‘Sacred Celestial Ceremony’ was nominated for the Retreat of the Year Award at the 2023 Wonderland Conference.

As a visionary and woman of color, Phoenix has triumphed over immense adversity, surviving two brain surgeries and overcoming the challenges of abuse, trauma and homelessness while raising a child as a single mother. Phoenix embodies the true spirit of what it means to rise from the ashes. Her journey has transformed her into a potent healer and a compelling voice in communities worldwide.

Phoenix is the founder of The Sacred Celestial, which has catapulted her into becoming a global leader in the field of psychedelic-assisted therapy through groundbreaking work in ceremonial psychedelics. She is also the best-selling author of Redefining Strong: A Journey to Finding Yourself, True Healing, and Spiritual Recalibration—a riveting story of self-discovery, sacrifice, and healing.

Highlights:

The overlooked importance of postpartum mental health.

Psychedelics and breastfeeding.

Phoenix’s private and group ceremonies with psilocybin.

Curating impactful ceremonial psychedelic experiences.

Phoenix’s two brain surgeries and her book, “Redefining Strong.”

Psychedelic lessons on self-confidence, love, and parenting.

On creating community around psychedelics.

How to learn more about Phoenix’s retreats and ceremonies.

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In this illuminating episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Joe Moore, the CEO of Psychedelics Today.

For a full summary and show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-229-joe-moore/

Recorded in-person at the 2023 reMind conference in Las Vegas, this conversation delves into the profound lessons and insights gained from navigating the unique challenges of the psychedelic space. Paul and Joe unpack the often-overlooked necessity of incorporating best business practices into psychedelic companies and explore the critical components of effective psychedelic training or coaching programs. Join Paul and Joe as they break down their respective programs—the Psychedelic Coaching Institute’s Coaching Certification Program and Vital Psychedelic Training—and compare the content and approach of each.

Together, Paul and Joe share their hard-earned lessons from running psychedelic businesses, discuss the pros and cons of relying on investments in the psychedelic space, and ponder the potential future of the psychedelic landscape amidst legal shifts and evolving healthcare models. This conversation provides an insightful and balanced exploration into the heart of the psychedelic renaissance.

Joe Moore:

Joe Moore co-founded Psychedelics Today in 2016 with his business partner Kyle Buller. As CEO, Joe has created one of the world's best known psychedelic podcasts, blogs and training platforms. Joe combines more than twenty years of avid research and training in psychedelics with twenty years of experience in software and multinational project management. Joe has led countless transpersonal breathwork workshops and is a much sought-after international speaker on the intersecting subjects of psychedelic medicine and healing, breathwork, drug policy, medical innovation, international justice and environmentalism.

Highlights:

Joe and Paul’s journeys starting businesses early on in the latest psychedelic renaissance.

The pros and cons of relying on investments in the psychedelic space.

Paul unpacks The Psychedelic Coaching Institute’s Coaching Certification Program.

Joe shares the origin and evolution of Vital Psychedelic Training.

How Vital approaches Scholarships.

Joe and Paul’s hard-earned lessons from running psychedelic businesses.

Considering decrim, access, legalization, and healthcare models for psychedelics.

How to learn more about the programs by Third Wave and Psychedelics Today.

Key Links:

Psychedelics Today: https://psychedelicstoday.com
  
Vital Psychedelic Training: https://www.vitalpsychedelictraining.com
  
Psychedelics Today on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/psychedelicstoday/
  
Vital Psychedelic Training on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vitalpsychedelic/
  

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