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    How Disability Reframes Humanity: Three Bible Stories to See Disability as the Site of Divine Revelation / Calli Micale

    enOctober 07, 2023

    About this Episode

    “Wrestling with oneself, with one’s past, with one’s relationships, with God … These stories push us to use disability to think about the human condition more broadly.”

    Longstanding narratives about disability shaped our emotional responses, our caregiving responses, and our social commentary, and our treatment of the disabled. But what if we saw disability as the site of divine revelation about God’s kingdom and our place in it? As an expression of power and wisdom and agency, rather than a merely a source of suffering and lack and ignorance.

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    Whether its intellectual disability or physical disability, and regardless of how its acquired, disability plays a role in what we might call God’s subversive kingdom. God’s upside-down-ness (or, maybe we should say human upside-down-ness). The least of these in the eyes of human society are chosen by God to communicate the good news of shalom and justice and salvation—that even those who are already “whole” can be saved.

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    Show Notes

    • Artwork: “Untitled (The Bleeding Woman)”, Unknown, Fresco, 4th Century AD, Catacombs of Marcellinus and Peter, Rome, Italy
    • Artwork: “The Healing of the Man Born Blind”, Duccio, 1311, Tempera on wood, National Gallery, London
    • Artwork: “Vision of the Sermon (Jacob Wrestling with the Angel)”, Paul Gauguin, 1888, Oil on canvas, Scottish National Gallery
    • Genesis 32:22-32 (see below for full text)
    • “Wrestling with oneself, with one’s past, with one’s relationships, with God”
    • Disability as a plot device: exploit
    • Elaborate disguise of Jacob’s impersonization of Esau
    • Each of us wrestles with our identity
    • “No one can see God and live”
    • Jacob’s limp: a narrative and metaphorical significance
    • Is disability a sign of or consequence of one’s sinfulness?
    • Is disability a divine punishment?
    • Subverting our understanding of disability
    • “Disability extends beyond Jacob’s physical form and continues to influence the the community—how they relate with their tradition and their practices.”
    • “The memory of the struggle with God and the intimate presence of God in the wrestling in the body, and then is preserved in memory of the body.”
    • Is being struck on the hip socket a blessing to Jacob?
    • The wounds of martyrs as battle wounds
    • Disability becomes inextricable from histories of violence
    • Is it Jesus that strikes and maims Jacob’s hip?
    • John 9: The Man Blind from Birth
    • Jesus rejects the assumption that disability is a punishment for sin.
    • “Dumb and blind”
    • Disability as the site of divine revelation
    • Jesus spitting in the mud is kind of gross. It takes a lot of spit to make that much mud.
    • Vulnerable and visceral moment of pasting dirty mud
    • The question of Jesus’s sin (for breaking Sabbath law) is now in play
    • An extended metaphor about where knowledge and wisdom apply.
    • Mark 5: The Hemorrhaging Woman
    • Agency and Power
    • Mutual caregiving within disabled communities
    • “These stories push us to use disability to think about the human condition more broadly.”

    Genesis 32

    The same night he got up and took his two wives, his two maids, and his eleven children, and crossed the ford of the Jabbok. He took them and sent them across the stream, and likewise everything that he had. Jacob was left alone; and a man wrestled with him until daybreak. When the man saw that he did not prevail against Jacob, he struck him on the hip socket; and Jacob’s hip was put out of joint as he wrestled with him. Then he said, ‘Let me go, for the day is breaking.’ But Jacob said, ‘I will not let you go, unless you bless me.’ So he said to him, ‘What is your name?’ And he said, ‘Jacob.’ Then the man said, ‘You shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel, for you have striven with God and with humans, and have prevailed.’ Then Jacob asked him, ‘Please tell me your name.’ But he said, ‘Why is it that you ask my name?’ And there he blessed him. So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, ‘For I have seen God face to face, and yet my life is preserved.’ The sun rose upon him as he passed Penuel, limping because of his hip. Therefore to this day the Israelites do not eat the thigh muscle that is on the hip socket, because he struck Jacob on the hip socket at the thigh muscle.

    John 9

    As he walked along, he saw a man blind from birth. His disciples asked him, ‘Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?’ Jesus answered, ‘Neither this man nor his parents sinned; he was born blind so that God’s works might be revealed in him. We must work the works of him who sent me while it is day; night is coming when no one can work. As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.’

    When he had said this, he spat on the ground and made mud with the saliva and spread the mud on the man’s eyes, saying to him, ‘Go, wash in the pool of Siloam’ (which means Sent). Then he went and washed and came back able to see. The neighbors and those who had seen him before as a beggar began to ask, ‘Is this not the man who used to sit and beg?’ Some were saying, ‘It is he.’ Others were saying, ‘No, but it is someone like him.’ He kept saying, ‘I am the man.’ But they kept asking him, ‘Then how were your eyes opened?’ He answered, ‘The man called Jesus made mud, spread it on my eyes, and said to me, “Go to Siloam and wash.” Then I went and washed and received my sight.’ They said to him, ‘Where is he?’ He said, ‘I do not know.’

    They brought to the Pharisees the man who had formerly been blind. Now it was a sabbath day when Jesus made the mud and opened his eyes. Then the Pharisees also began to ask him how he had received his sight. He said to them, ‘He put mud on my eyes. Then I washed, and now I see.’ Some of the Pharisees said, ‘This man is not from God, for he does not observe the sabbath.’ But others said, ‘How can a man who is a sinner perform such signs?’ And they were divided. So they said again to the blind man, ‘What do you say about him? It was your eyes he opened.’ He said, ‘He is a prophet.’

    The Jews did not believe that he had been blind and had received his sight until they called the parents of the man who had received his sight and asked them, ‘Is this your son, who you say was born blind? How then does he now see?’ His parents answered, ‘We know that this is our son, and that he was born blind; but we do not know how it is that now he sees, nor do we know who opened his eyes. Ask him; he is of age. He will speak for himself.’ His parents said this because they were afraid of the Jews; for the Jews had already agreed that anyone who confessed Jesus to be the Messiah would be put out of the synagogue. Therefore his parents said, ‘He is of age; ask him.’

    So for the second time they called the man who had been blind, and they said to him, ‘Give glory to God! We know that this man is a sinner.’ He answered, ‘I do not know whether he is a sinner. One thing I do know, that though I was blind, now I see.’ They said to him, ‘What did he do to you? How did he open your eyes?’ He answered them, ‘I have told you already, and you would not listen. Why do you want to hear it again? Do you also want to become his disciples?’ Then they reviled him, saying, ‘You are his disciple, but we are disciples of Moses. We know that God has spoken to Moses, but as for this man, we do not know where he comes from.’ The man answered, ‘Here is an astonishing thing! You do not know where he comes from, and yet he opened my eyes. We know that God does not listen to sinners, but he does listen to one who worships him and obeys his will. Never since the world began has it been heard that anyone opened the eyes of a person born blind. If this man were not from God, he could do nothing.’ They answered him, ‘You were born entirely in sins, and are you trying to teach us?’ And they drove him out.

    Jesus heard that they had driven him out, and when he found him, he said, ‘Do you believe in the Son of Man?’ He answered, ‘And who is he, sir? Tell me, so that I may believe in him.’ Jesus said to him, ‘You have seen him, and the one speaking with you is he.’ He said, ‘Lord, I believe.’ And he worshipped him. Jesus said, ‘I came into this world for judgement so that those who do not see may see, and those who do see may become blind.’ Some of the Pharisees near him heard this and said to him, ‘Surely we are not blind, are we?’ Jesus said to them, ‘If you were blind, you would not have sin. But now that you say, “We see”, your sin remains.

    Mark 5:25-34

    See also Luke 8:43-48 and Matthew 9:20-22

    Now there was a woman who had been suffering from haemorrhages for twelve years. She had endured much under many physicians, and had spent all that she had; and she was no better, but rather grew worse. She had heard about Jesus, and came up behind him in the crowd and touched his cloak,  for she said, ‘If I but touch his clothes, I will be made well.’ Immediately her haemorrhage stopped; and she felt in her body that she was healed of her disease.  Immediately aware that power had gone forth from him, Jesus turned about in the crowd and said, ‘Who touched my clothes?’ And his disciples said to him, ‘You see the crowd pressing in on you; how can you say, “Who touched me?”’ He looked all round to see who had done it.  But the woman, knowing what had happened to her, came in fear and trembling, fell down before him, and told him the whole truth. He said to her, ‘Daughter, your faith has made you well; go in peace, and be healed of your disease.’

    About Calli Micale

    Calli Micale is Assistant Professor of Theology and Ethics and Director of the MDiv Program at Palmer Theological Seminary. She is a theologian with a particular interest in the ethical implications of theological talk for the whole of human life. Her research brings together the history of Christian thought with sustained attention to rhetoric as it grounds perceptions of the body and health in Western societies. She joined the Palmer Theological Seminary faculty in 2023 after earning a PhD from Yale University.

    Writing and teaching correspond in Dr. Micale’s work to form students as faith leaders oriented towards gender, disability, and racial justice. She has published articles with the Journal of Disability and Religion and the Disability Studies Quarterly (forthcoming). Micale is currently working on a book manuscript, tentatively titled Crip Conversion: Narratives of Disability and Grace. The book analyzes the stories theologians tell about intellectual disability and argues that deploying intellectual disability as narrative metaphor allows one to come at the Protestant tradition from a helpful vantage point—such that the significance of sensation for the reception of grace comes to the fore.

    As a candidate for ordination in the ELCA with 10+ years of preaching experience, Dr. Micale delights in the variety of ways her students take up theological resources for ministry and social justice action. In each course, she aims to take students beyond learning concepts by letting divergent beliefs shape and change their perspective on what really matters—their own intellectual and spiritual lives called to make a difference in the world

    Production Notes

    • This podcast featured Calli Micale
    • Edited and Produced by Evan Rosa
    • Hosted by Evan Rosa
    • Production Assistance by Macie Bridge and Kaylen Yun
    • A Production of the Yale Center for Faith & Culture at Yale Divinity School https://faith.yale.edu/about
    • Support For the Life of the World podcast by giving to the Yale Center for Faith & Culture: https://faith.yale.edu/give
    • This episode was made possible in part by the generous support of the Tyndale House Foundation. For more information, visit tyndale.foundation.

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    • Production Assistance by Macie Bridge, Alexa Rollow, & Tim Bergeland
    • A Production of the Yale Center for Faith & Culture at Yale Divinity School https://faith.yale.edu/about
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    Becoming Whole in a Fragmented Age / Anne Snyder

    Becoming Whole in a Fragmented Age / Anne Snyder

    Imagine a future that brings personal and communal wholeness, a commitment to truth even when it hurts, and the beauty of pursuing integration in the wake of fragmentation. Anne Snyder joins Evan Rosa to talk about her vision and hopes for a whole-person revolution that honors our moral complexity, holds us accountable to virtue, and seeks a robust form of love in public life. 

    In this conversation they discuss: the meaning of wholeness and what it could mean to become a whole person; the importance of character, virtue, and moral formation; our need to come to terms with violence—listening to the language of threat and safety and preservation and protection; tribalism, fear, and moral realities; the ideas at the root of democracy; the connection between cynicism, distrust, and a feeling of threat and need to survive; and Anne describes a hard-won wholeness rooted in a sober and persevering hope that doesn’t die.

    About Anne Snyder

    Anne Snyder is the editor-in-chief of Comment magazine and oversees our partner project, Breaking Ground. She is the host of The Whole Person Revolution podcast and co-editor of Breaking Ground: Charting Our Future in a Pandemic Year, published in January 2022.

    Prior to leading Comment, she directed The Philanthropy Roundtable‘s Character Initiative, a program seeking to help foundations and business leaders strengthen “the middle ring” of morally formative institutions. Her path-breaking guidebook, The Fabric of Character: A Wise Giver’s Guide to Renewing our Social and Moral Landscape, was published in 2019. From 2014 to 2017 Anne worked for Laity Lodge and the H.E. Butt Foundation in Texas, and before that, the Ethics and Public Policy Center, World Affairs Journal and The New York Times. She is a Senior Fellow of The Trinity Forum and a Fellow at the Urban Reform Institute, a Houston-based think tank that explores how cities can drive opportunity for the bulk of their citizens. She has published widely, including The Atlantic Monthly, the Washington PostBittersweet Monthly and of course Comment, and now serves as a trustee for Nyack College. Anne spent the formative years of her childhood overseas before earning a bachelor’s degree from Wheaton College (IL) and a master’s degree from Georgetown University. She currently lives in Washington, D.C.

    Show Notes

    • “Whole person revolution”
    • Individual whole person as head, heart, and helping hands.
    • We are porous to our contexts
    • The individual as a part of a greater whole.
    • Exploring fear in our societies to understand the other
    • Wholeness must be considered on the granular level and broad scale
    • A “hard won” wholeness
    • Healing relational divides and brokenness
    • Curling inward around oneself
    • Watching cynicism arise in the vacuum of encounter

    Production NOtes

    • This podcast featured Anne Snyder
    • Edited and Produced by Evan Rosa
    • Hosted by Evan Rosa
    • Production Assistance by Macie Bridge, Alexa Rollow, and Tim Bergeland
    • A Production of the Yale Center for Faith & Culture at Yale Divinity School https://faith.yale.edu/about
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    Listeners Dare: Courage and the Act of Sermon-Listening / Will Willimon

    Listeners Dare: Courage and the Act of Sermon-Listening / Will Willimon

    We often think of speaking up as an act of courage. And of course, there are times when it most certainly is. But what about the courage to listen? The best kind of generous listening is interesting because it seems to acknowledge and create a mutual agency. The courageous, generous listener grants the speaker an authority to have the floor and make a point or drop a bomb or tell it like it is. But that act of listening is itself an active mode of receptive agency. So the best kind of listening is a truly powerful thing because each party involved in this miracle of communication gets to be present in fullness.

    That is not something that can be done by the speaker alone. The ability to create the conditions for that mutual agency is up to the listener. But when you apply that to a religious scenario—the preaching and hearing of the gospel, things get interesting.

    Whether its from the window of St. Peter’s Basilica, or from the screams of a megaphone wielding street preacher, or the pulpit of your small, faithful community church… something profound seems to be happening when we listen to someone speak and illumine the Word of God.

    Will Willimon, who has trained many preachers and written several books on preaching and homiletics, has written a book for listeners, both acknowledging and uplifting the act of listening to sermons. Will is Professor of the Practice of Christian Ministry at Duke Divinity School and he came on the show with me to talk about his book, Listeners Dare: Hearing God in the Sermon.

    Together we discuss the act of listening and the rare achievement it seems to be; the definition and purpose of a sermon, and what that might mean for its listeners; how to cultivate the charity and courage to listen; and the inherent risk involved in genuinely and generously listening to the gospel.

    Show Notes

    • Listeners Dare: Hearing God in the Sermon
    • Preaching is a demanding skill for both preachers and their audiences.
    • Scripture itself pays attention to audiences as well as speakers.
    • Listeners come to sermons with expectations. For sermons to most benefit the audience, preachers can guide their listeners to ask the right questions of a sermon.
    • What is proclamation?
    • Like the Bible itself, sermons can take a wide array of literary forms to communicate the truth of God. Because it proclaims truth about God, the Bible itself can be seen as a sort of sermon.
    • “Christian sermons, ought to arise out of an encounter with scripture.”
    • The gospels began a new genre of literature to communicate the truth of Christ.
    • The genre or form of sermons continues to evolve and diversify today with outside influences such as TED Talks.
    • Fred Craddock and the narrative unfolding sermon
    • Verse-by-verse discovery in a sermon
    • One definition of preaching is “a biblical preacher goes to the biblical text hoping to make a discovery. Then you announce that discovery to the congregation.”
    • At times when a preacher has no audience, such as street preachers, there is still something compelling about the preacher's commitment to their message, that regardless of its reception it must be spoken.
    • Preaching requires charity and risk from listeners, so they can open themselves to the possibility of hearing and being transformed by another's message.
    • Listening requires daring because the gospel message presented by Christian preachers has the power to upend listeners' preexisting beliefs.
    • “Preaching is a confrontation with the God who came to us, who is a Jew from Nazareth, who lived briefly, died violently, and rose unexpectedly—preaching is about that.”
    • Listening, and listening to God, are skills that can be cultivated.
    • “We have a revealing, talkative, loquacious God.”
    • It is helpful for listeners of sermons to assume both the preacher and God hope to communicate with their listeners.
    • Listeners must be willing to learn from, critique, and engage with sermons.
    • “Listeners are the playground of the Holy Spirit.”
    • Preachers partner with the Holy Spirit to bring sermons to their congregation, even using difficult passages of scripture to further engage listeners.
    • John 6 and the “hard sayings” of Jesus
    • Listeners Dare! :) Will mentions a teenagers compliment to him once: “That was the most f—ed up thing I have ever heard… it was wonderful.”
    • The courage to keep listening

    About Will Willimon

    The Reverend Dr. William H. Willimon is Professor of the Practice of Christian Ministry at the Divinity School, Duke University. He served eight years as Bishop of the North Alabama Conference of The United Methodist Church, where he led the 157,000 Methodists and 792 pastors in North Alabama. For twenty years prior to the episcopacy, he was Dean of the Chapel and Professor of Christian Ministry at Duke University, Durham, North Carolina. He is author of over 100 books, including Worship as Pastoral CareAccidental PreacherResident Aliens: Life in the Christian Colony, and his most recent, God Turned Toward Us: The ABCs of the Christian Faith. His articles have appeared in many publications including The Christian MinistryQuarterly ReviewPloughLiturgyWorship and Christianity Today. For many years he was Editor-at-Large for The Christian Century. For more information and resources, visit his website.

    Production Notes

    • This podcast featured Will Willimon
    • Edited and Produced by Evan Rosa
    • Hosted by Evan Rosa
    • Production Assistance by Alexa Rollow, Macie Bridge, and Tim Bergeland
    • A Production of the Yale Center for Faith & Culture at Yale Divinity School https://faith.yale.edu/about
    • Support For the Life of the World podcast by giving to the Yale Center for Faith & Culture: https://faith.yale.edu/give

    Power & American Evangelicalism: Sword or Cross? / Tim Alberta

    Power & American Evangelicalism: Sword or Cross? / Tim Alberta

    American Christianity enjoys a great deal of power and influence at home and abroad. Is the church better for it? Is the world better for it? Or is Christian Nationalism just another idolatry—a temptation to take up the sword instead of taking up the cross? Journalist Tim Alberta (The Atlantic, POLITICO) joins Evan Rosa for a discussion of his new book, The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory: American Evangelicals in an Age of Extremism. Tim explains his reporting on American Evangelicalism from 2019 through 2023 as well as his own Christian faith and spiritual background. He also reflects on a variety of challenging issues that influence life far upstream from political theatre, including:

    • how faith matures or erodes
    • the impact of Constantinian Christianity and the Christian embrace of power, influence, and glory in American public life
    • the difference between Christ and Christendom, and our allegiance to one or the other
    • and the meaning and unique threat of idolatry—which takes on a unique form in contemporary American life.

    Show Art

    Grégoire Guérard, “The Arrest of Christ”, circa 1520-1522, Musée des Beaux-Arts, Dijon, France

    About Tim Alberta

    Visit Tim’s personal website for more of his writing, or follow him on X/Twitter.

    Tim Alberta is an award-winning journalist, best-selling author, and staff writer for The Atlantic magazine. He formerly served as chief political correspondent for POLITICO. In 2019, he published the critically acclaimed book, "American Carnage: On the Front Lines of the Republican Civil War and the Rise of President Trump" and co-moderated the year's final Democratic presidential debate aired by PBS Newshour.

    Hailing from Brighton, Michigan, Tim attended Schoolcraft College and later Michigan State University, where his plans to become a baseball writer were changed by a stint covering the legislature in Lansing. He went on to spend more than a decade in Washington, reporting for publications including the Wall Street Journal, The Hotline, National Journal and National Review. Having covered the biggest stories in national politics—the battles over health care and immigration on Capitol Hill; the election and presidency of Donald Trump; the ideological warfare between and within the two parties—Tim was eager for a new challenge.

    In 2019, he moved home to Michigan. Rather than cover the 2020 campaign through the eyes of the candidates, Tim roved the country and reported from gun shows and farmers markets, black cookouts and white suburbs, crowded wholesale stores and shuttered small businesses. He wrote a regular "Letter to Washington" that kept upstream from politics, focusing less on manifest partisan divisions and more on elusive root causes: the hollowing out of communities, the diminished faith in vital institutions, the self-perpetuating cycle of cultural antagonism, the diverging economic realities for wealthy and working-class citizens, the rapid demographic makeover of America—and the corollary spikes in racism and xenophobia.

    Tim joined The Atlantic in March 2021 with a mandate to keep roaming and writing and telling stories that strike at the heart of America's discontent. His work has been featured in dozens of other publications nationwide, including Sports Illustrated and Vanity Fair, and he frequently appears as a commentator on television programs in the United States and around the world. Tim's first book, "American Carnage," debuted at No. 1 and No. 2 on the Washington Post and New York Times best-seller lists, respectively. He lives in southeast Michigan with his wife, three sons, and German Shepherd.

    Show Notes

    • Tim Alberta, The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory
    • Intellectually re-examining the faith of childhood
    • A generational disillusionment in today’s exit from Christianity
    • Generational break in attitude & behavior
    • Distance from the moral majority generation to evaluate critically
    • Inverse relationship where the more one learns about Christ, the less they like Christianity
    • The creation of the secular, evil “other”
    • “They created this other, this outsider, this enemy that had to be defeated.”
    • Current American Christianity is often looking to find our identities on the good side of zero-sum equation.
    • Shrinking our theology into something pathetic and miniscule.
    • St. Augustine, St. Paul, and C.S. Lewis
    • “One way to find meaning is to locate an enemy.”
    • From Cal Thomas’s Blinded by Might” —”Unless you have the power to right every wrong and cure every ill and what better way to do that than with An all powerful God on your side.”
    • The church most often seems to thrive when it is at the margins.
    • “We can understand the relationship between this lust for dominance in our, in a society, the inverse relationship between that lust for dominance and the health of the church.”
    • Satan’s temptation of Christ in the Gospel of Luke—the temptation to bow down.
    • St. Peter, “Blessed are you Simon bar Jonah…” and then… “Get behind me Satan.”
    • Reaching for the sword versus reaching for the cross
    • The impact of Constantinian Christianity
    • John Dixon’s Bullies and Saints
    • Constantine wielding Christianity to dominate—the imposition of Christian faith
    • “Is Christianity an end or is it a means to an end?”
    • “It's easy to forget about the teachings of Christ if you are preoccupied with the, crusades of Christianity”
    • “An idol is something that starts as a good and healthy thing, but then becomes the ultimate thing.”
    • America as a kingdom
    • American Christendom as a source of idolatry
    • Baptizing the American experience and past
    • E.g., Thomas Jefferson, Donald Trump, and Paula White
    • “The other part of it that I find to be uniquely problematic and sometimes just downright gross, is this willful merging of scripture with the American mythos.”
    • Mike Pence, and “Let us set our eyes on Old Glory.”
    • “Thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever.”
    • An age of gnawing unknowns
    • Tim Alberta’s reflections on his father
    • “Keep your eyes fixed on Jesus.”
    • The influence of Jesus’s life and teaching
    • “We are in sales, not management.”

    Production Notes

    • This podcast featured Tim Alberta
    • Edited and Produced by Evan Rosa
    • Hosted by Evan Rosa
    • Production Assistance by Macie Bridge, Alexa Rollow, and Tim Bergeland
    • A Production of the Yale Center for Faith & Culture at Yale Divinity School https://faith.yale.edu/about
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    Advent Love: Prayer, Trauma, & the Loving Gaze of Christ / Bo Karen Lee

    Advent Love: Prayer, Trauma, & the Loving Gaze of Christ / Bo Karen Lee

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    Part 4 of 4 in our 2023 Advent Series. Bo Karen Lee discusses how Ignatian spirituality, contemplative prayer, and meditating on the loving gaze and deep compassion of Christ—a love that suffers with—can be a transformative experience to heal trauma, pain, and deal with powerful emotions.

    About Bo Karen Lee

    Bo Karen Lee, ThM '99, PhD '07, is associate professor of spiritual theology and Christian formation at Princeton Theological Seminary. She earned her BA in religious studies from Yale University, her MDiv from Trinity International University in Deerfield, Illinois, and her ThM and PhD from Princeton Seminary. She furthered her studies in the returning scholars program at the University of Chicago, received training as a spiritual director from Oasis Ministries, and was a Mullin Fellow with the Institute of Advanced Catholic Studies. Her book, Sacrifice and Delight in the Mystical Theologies of Anna Maria van Schurman and Madame Jeanne Guyon, argues that surrender of self to God can lead to the deepest joy in God. She has recently completed a volume, The Soul of Higher Education, which explores contemplative pedagogies and research strategies. A recipient of the John Templeton Award for Theological Promise, she gave a series of international lectures that included the topic, “The Face of the Other: An Ethic of Delight.”

    She is a member of the Presbyterian Church (USA), the Society for the Study of Early Modern Women, and the American Academy of Religion; she recently served on the Governing Board of the Society for the Study of Christian Spirituality, and is on the editorial board of the journal, Spirtus, as well as on the steering committee of the Christian Theology and Bible Group of the Society of Biblical Literature. Before joining Princeton faculty, she taught in the Theology Department at Loyola College in Baltimore, Maryland, where she developed courses with a vibrant service-learning component for students to work at shelters for women recovering from drug addiction and sex trafficking. She now enjoys teaching classes on prayer for the Spirituality and Mission Program at Princeton Seminary, in addition to taking students on retreats and hosting meditative walks along nature trails.

    Show Notes

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    • Macie Bridge and Evan Rosa introduce the episode
    • The Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius of Loyola
    • Christ in solidarity with me
    • Who was Ignatius of Loyola?
    • The Life of Christ by Ludolf of Saxony
    • Four weeks: beloved, walking with Christ in his ministry, walking with Christ in his suffering, knowing the risen Christ
    • “Gazing upon God who gazes upon me in love.”
    • How does God look upon me? How do others look upon me? How do I look upon myself?
    • Attachment Theory in Psychology
    • Still Face Experiment and Trauma
    • Trauma is the opposite of human flourishing
    • Learned secure attachment
    • Growing in confident awareness of God’s love for me through prayer, meditation, and community.
    • First image of God comes through human relationships
    • Anger
    • Bo’s experience of dealing with trauma during 2022’s wave of violence against Asian Americans
    • Prayer, doubt, and whether God is with us
    • Hearing the wailing of women
    • Mary holding the collapsed Christ
    • “Bo, they killed me too.”
    • “I was companioned in my grief.”

    Production Notes

    • This podcast featured Bo Karen Lee
    • Edited and Produced by Evan Rosa
    • Hosted by Evan Rosa
    • Production Assistance by Macie Bridge
    • A Production of the Yale Center for Faith & Culture at Yale Divinity School https://faith.yale.edu/about
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    How the Light Gets In: Restlessness, Christ, & Belonging / Graham Ward

    How the Light Gets In: Restlessness, Christ, & Belonging / Graham Ward

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    How does the light get in? Leonard Cohen suggests, "There's a crack in everything / That's how..." Whether from our restlessness, our fear, or our trauma, to see the world rightly might start with the need to acknowledge the crack in everything.

    Only then can we see a new world of understanding and belonging and well-being.

    Graham Ward (University of Oxford) joins Ryan McAnnally-Linz to reflect on the purpose of theology, Christology as the place where the divine and the human come together, trauma, restlessness, fear, the human capacity for creativity and destruction (and which will we choose?), and how the Gospels offer a new sense of belonging.

    About Graham Ward

    Graham Ward is Regius Professor of Divinity at the University of Oxford and is author of several books, including How the Light Gets In and Another Kind of Normal.

    Show Notes

    • Graham Ward’s Ethical Life books under discussion in this episode: How the Light Gets In and Another Kind of Normal
    • Creating inner coherence through a systematic theology
    • Scripture as the common text all Christians return to
    • Reading with a sense of original language
    • “We do believe God speaks to us through the scriptures.”
    • Writing titles that invite non-Christians to the books
    • “There’s a lot of the church who are not in church on Sunday.”
    • “I always think that, one, theology lost in a sense when it became professionalized. And two…theology has got to be pastoral.”
    • “Good writing can find the phrasing which unlocks experiences that other people have had.”
    • Theology as speaking more to being human than being divine
    • Dogma (Matt Damon and Ben Affleck) and the problem with “Buddy Jesus”
    • Theology that defamiliarizes Christ
    • The strangeness of Christ as drawing out
    • Balancing defamiliarization with the glory of Creation
    • None of us actually know what the resurrection truly means
    • Trauma in the early church
    • “What is it we're looking for in our restlessness?”
    • Restlessness as fundamentally connected to our fear
    • The conflict between losing control in Christ, and being a predatory creature
    • Grace breaking through in the rubbish heap, like sunlight on a violet
    • “This is the hard love which demanded God's sacrifice, but also demands my sacrifice of what I think love should be.”
    • Julian of Norwich
    • “I was just playing with the phrase ‘because the devil is in the detail’, and it's not, it's God that's in the detail.”
    • Will you be creative or will you be destructive?
    • The role of the church in people who are discerning
    • Mystagogy, living what you worship
    • The role of liturgy in community
    • Fragmentation and non-belonging within our contemporary relationships
    • The gospels as incorporating a new type of belonging

    Production Notes

    • This podcast featured Graham Ward
    • Edited and Produced by Evan Rosa
    • Hosted by Evan Rosa
    • Production Assistance by Macie Bridge
    • A Production of the Yale Center for Faith & Culture at Yale Divinity School https://faith.yale.edu/about
    • Support For the Life of the World podcast by giving to the Yale Center for Faith & Culture: https://faith.yale.edu/give