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    How Dropout competes in a cutthroat, subscription-streaming market

    enJune 05, 2024

    Podcast Summary

    • Business Innovation and ChangesNvidia's stock split, AMD's entry into AI chip market, mergers and acquisitions, unconventional events, Moderna's RSV vaccine approval, and former President Trump's conviction impacted businesses and their stocks in various ways.

      Innovation and accessibility are driving forces in the business world, as evidenced by Nvidia's stock split and AMD's plans to challenge NVIDIA in the AI chip market. Additionally, mergers and acquisitions, such as Paramount and Skydance, continue to shape industries. Unconventional events, like Keith Gill's return to the stock market and the Japanese automakers' vehicle testing scandal, also impact businesses and their stocks. Moderna's RSV vaccine approval and the Delaware judge's ruling on Zantac lawsuits represent advancements in healthcare and pharmaceuticals. Finally, former President Trump's conviction and the subsequent impact on Trump Media Shares serve as reminders of the unpredictability of the business landscape.

    • Dropout Man's transformationDropout Man, once a struggling comedy brand, transformed into a profitable and growing streaming service by shifting to a subscription model after facing financial difficulties and resistance from former owner IAC.

      Dropout Man, formerly known as College Humor, rebranded in 2021 to reflect their new identity as an independently owned streaming service that doesn't sell ads or take corporate money. This transformation came after the company nearly folded a few years ago when IAC, their former owner, considered selling it. Sam Reich, the CEO and now owner of Dropout Man, shared his experiences during the rebrand announcement video. The company, which was founded nearly 25 years ago, had attempted various business models, including ad sales and television, but none were successful enough to meet IAC's expectations. The shift to subscription was the latest attempt, and although it didn't meet IAC's expectations initially, Sam and a few remaining team members fought to save the company and its jobs. Today, Dropout Man is profitable and growing a subscriber base at a substantial rate. The story of Dropout Man's transformation from a struggling comedy brand to a successful streaming service is a testament to Sam's leadership and the team's resilience.

    • Business TurnaroundMaintaining a lean operation, focusing on core competencies, and being adaptable to external circumstances are crucial for a successful business turnaround.

      Starting a profitable business, especially in the early stages, requires careful management of resources and a clear strategic vision. The discussion highlights the experience of a media company, CollegeHumor, which faced significant financial challenges before being bought out. The business plan initially projected a loss of $10,000,000 before becoming profitable. After the buyout, the company was left with a skeleton team and limited content, forcing the new leadership to focus on sustainable growth and cutting off non-essential revenue streams like advertising and branded content. The company's history of bloated staffing and lack of profitability made it difficult for potential buyers to see value in it, and the pandemic further complicated the situation by halting production. Ultimately, the new leadership had to start virtually from scratch, founding a new company right before entering a lockdown. This experience underscores the importance of maintaining a lean operation, focusing on core competencies, and being adaptable to external circumstances to build a successful and profitable business.

    • Dropout's subscription revenue focusDropout's success in the streaming era is largely due to their focus on subscription revenue, allowing them to maintain control over their business and content while generating roughly 85% of their gross revenue from subscriptions.

      Dropout's focus on subscription revenue has been key to their survival and growth in the ever-changing digital media landscape. With roughly 85% of their gross revenue coming from subscriptions, they have been able to maintain control over their business and content. This shift to subscription was a response to the instability of ad revenue and the need for media creators to have more ownership over their online presence. However, while the subscription model has been successful for Dropout, it is not foolproof and comes with challenges such as increasing production costs and competition in the marketplace. They also generate additional revenue through merchandise sales, live events, and other miscellaneous sources. Despite these challenges, Dropout's success demonstrates the potential for smaller media companies to thrive in the streaming era, as long as they can produce high-quality content that competes in the marketplace.

    • Dropout growth strategyDropout focuses on organic growth through new shows and social media marketing, but may need to explore other methods for audience acquisition as organic growth becomes less effective. Merchandise and experimental content are potential revenue streams. The company maintains a myopic focus on growth and aims to stay small enough to take risks on authentic content.

      Dropout, a streaming platform, is currently focused on growing organically through the launch of new shows and marketing them on social media to attract new subscribers. They have been successful in this approach so far, with minimal paid marketing. Their goal is to continue this strategy, but they may need to explore other methods for audience acquisition as organic growth becomes less effective. Merchandise and experimental content, such as video games and card games, are also potential revenue streams for the company. They are not currently interested in live events as a money-making opportunity, but rather as marketing content. Dropout's current focus is on growing the platform and maintaining a myopic focus on this objective. The company believes there is still significant room for growth, despite having 5 million paid subscribers. They aim to stay small enough to take risks on content that larger players might not be able to consider. The question of when Dropout will become too big is uncertain, but the company is prepared to find out as they continue to disrupt the market with authentic, garage-bandy content.

    • Dropout TV's retention strategyDropout TV's unique ecosystem of interconnected shows, smaller size, and lower production costs enable them to retain subscribers for longer periods and take risks on niche content, resulting in a growing library of content that appeals to specific audiences and fosters viewer loyalty.

      Dropout TV's success lies in their ability to keep subscribers engaged for longer periods of time, averaging around 1.5 to 2 years, due to their unique ecosystem of interconnected shows featuring beloved talent. This retention strategy, combined with their smaller size and lower production costs, allows them to take risks on niche content that might not be financially viable for larger streaming platforms. The result is a growing library of content that appeals to specific audiences and keeps subscribers coming back for more. Additionally, the sense of security in committing to a show without fear of cancellation is a significant factor in viewer loyalty. Overall, Dropout TV's approach to content creation and audience engagement sets them apart from the major streaming networks and offers an appealing alternative for those seeking a more personalized and long-term viewing experience.

    • Technology and Cultural TrendsTechnological advancements and cultural trends enabled Dropout to experiment with long-form improvised content through podcasting, streaming platforms, and live streaming, while their commitment to workplace equity and talent retention helped them maintain growth despite losses to larger platforms

      The intersection of technology, cultural trends, and the courage to take risks played a significant role in the resurgence of Dungeons & Dragons' popularity and Dropout's success with their actual play shows, such as Dimension 20. The technological advancements of podcasting, streaming platforms, and live streaming created opportunities for experimentation with long-form improvised content. Dropout's timing and talent acquisition, combined with their commitment to workplace equity and valuing their workers' time, helped them retain talent and maintain growth despite the inevitable loss of some performers to larger platforms. The company's cost-effective structure, rooted in keeping talent as contractors, allows them to manage costs while fostering a valued and inclusive work environment. This unique combination of factors has contributed to Dropout's ongoing success in the streaming industry.

    • Respect and Intimacy in Creative CompaniesValuing contributions of writers, actors, and performers, recognizing importance of their time, and deeply partnering with talent leads to more creative and professional results in a creative company.

      Respect for the craft and those involved in it is crucial for the success of a creative company. Dropout, a production company and distributor, values the contributions of writers, actors, and performers, recognizing the importance of their work and the preciousness of their time. By remaining intimately involved in the creative process and partnering deeply with talent, Dropout has achieved results that are both more creative and professional feeling. This approach, rooted in respect and intimacy, has contributed to Dropout's early success. Additionally, the company's unique position as both a production company and distributor allows them to take risks on unconventional and creative content that might be overlooked by traditional streamers. This focus on creativity and collaboration is essential for fostering a thriving creator middle class and maintaining the integrity of the arts industry.

    • LGBTQ+ support, WNBA, Love is BlindThe hosts, Josh and Yaz, expressed support for the LGBTQ+ community, showed excitement for the WNBA's competitive nature and tension between veteran players and rookie Caitlin Clark, and poked fun at Chris Collins' cereal-eating habit on their show, highlighting their diverse interests.

      The hosts of the show, Josh and Yaz, shared their current interests or "keeping tabs" on various topics. Yaz expressed support for the LGBTQ+ community and encouraged listeners to donate to related charities. He also shared his excitement for the competitive nature of the WNBA and the growing tension between veteran players and rookie sensation Caitlin Clark. Meanwhile, Yaz poked fun at Chris Collins, the founder of the reality show "Love is Blind," for his unusual cereal-eating habit. Despite some controversy surrounding the show's working conditions, Yaz acknowledged that it provides great content. Overall, the hosts' sharing of their "keeping tabs" showcased their diverse interests and passions.

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