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    How Ripple's Win Reshapes Crypto with Paul Grewal & Mike Selig

    enJuly 14, 2023

    Podcast Summary

    • US Court Rules XRP is Not a SecurityA US court has determined that XRP, a cryptocurrency, does not qualify as a security, potentially impacting the classification of other tokens like MATIC, Solana, Cardano, and Ethereum. The market has responded positively, with XRP and Coinbase's stock seeing gains.

      A US court has ruled that XRP, the cryptocurrency asset, does not constitute an offer of investment contracts and therefore is not classified as a security. This decision raises questions about the SEC's classification of other tokens, such as MATIC, Solana, Cardano, and Ethereum. The market has reacted positively to this news, with XRP and Coinbase's stock seeing an increase in value. Paul Grewal and Mike Selig, legal experts in the field, join the discussion to provide insight into the implications of this decision and the potential impact on the crypto market. It's important to note that this ruling does not necessarily mean that all cryptocurrencies are not securities, but rather that XRP does not meet the specific criteria for a security as defined by the court. The broader implications for the crypto industry and the SEC's ongoing efforts to regulate digital assets will continue to be a topic of discussion and debate.

    • Coinbase's Court Victory: A Significant Moment for Crypto IndustryJudge Torres' ruling in favor of Coinbase challenged the SEC's broad interpretation of the Howey test and brought optimism for a more balanced crypto regulation approach.

      A recent court ruling in favor of Coinbase marked a significant moment for the crypto industry, as Judge Torres' decisions were seen as transformational and a much-needed check against regulatory overreach. For many in the crypto community, the ruling served as a sign that their concerns were being heard and that fair and hardworking regulators were scrutinizing the SEC's regulatory actions. Mike Selig, a counsel for the digital asset department at Wilkie Farr and Gallagher, was surprised by the timing and outcome of the ruling, which challenged the SEC's broad interpretation of the Howey test and offered a potential shift in the regulatory landscape for crypto assets. Paul Grewal, Coinbase's chief legal officer, echoed the sentiment, emphasizing the importance of the ruling not just for Coinbase but for the industry as a whole. The ruling brought a renewed sense of optimism and hope for a more balanced approach to crypto regulation.

    • Court rules XRP is not a securityThe court decision clarifies that XRP is not a security, but the context of its transaction determines if a security exists.

      That the court ruling in the SEC vs. Ripple case clarified that XRP, the crypto asset, is not a security under securities laws. The court distinguished between the sale of XRP as part of investment contracts and securities transactions, and the trading of XRP on exchanges. The investment contracts were deemed securities, but XRP itself was not. This decision provides clarity and reduces uncertainty in the crypto industry, as it confirms that assets themselves are not securities, but rather the context in which they are transacted determines whether a security exists. This is a significant win for Ripple and the crypto industry as a whole, as it challenges the SEC's previous theory that assets could be securities independent of their transaction context.

    • XRP is not a security, but its transactions might beJudge Torres' ruling clarified that XRP isn't a security, but transactions involving it could be investment contracts and securities transactions, shifting focus from asset to transactions, and potentially requiring SEC to prove securities laws apply to each crypto asset.

      That the recent court ruling regarding XRP clarified that the asset itself is not necessarily a security, but rather the transactions involving it could constitute investment contracts and securities transactions. Judge Torres emphasized that the focus should be on the transactions and not the underlying asset. This decision challenges the SEC's stance that all crypto assets, excluding Bitcoin, are securities. The investment contract analysis requires the SEC to prove that the commodity was sold in a manner that implicates securities laws. The court's decision places XRP among other commodities and goods, and assets should not be assumed to be securities just because they have investment characteristics. This ruling could potentially require the SEC to provide evidence for every asset they deem to be subject to securities laws. The implications of this decision could significantly impact the crypto industry and regulatory frameworks.

    • Impact of Ripple case ruling on SEC's secondary sale casesThe recent Ripple case ruling sets a high standard for the SEC to prove every crypto transaction is an investment contract, making it a significant hurdle for SEC in secondary sale cases, but the decision can be appealed.

      The recent court ruling on the Ripple case sets a high standard for the SEC to prove that every crypto transaction is an investment contract, making it a significant hurdle for the SEC in secondary sale cases. The decision is critical for crypto and has implications that are massive in various ways. However, it's essential to note that this decision can be appealed, and the SEC or Ripple defendants can file an appeal to the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals once the trial resolves all outstanding issues. The judge in the case, Doug Torres, issued a ruling on a motion for summary judgment, which decided some issues in favor of the SEC and others in favor of the Ripple defendants. However, there was one main topic, aiding and abetting liability of certain individual defendants, that the judge couldn't decide purely as a matter of law because of disagreements on facts, and it was set for trial. Therefore, before any party can appeal any part of the judgment, there needs to be a final judgment, and all issues must be resolved first.

    • Judge Torres' decision sets a precedent for Ripple case and similar onesJudge Torres' decision in the Ripple case, which could influence similar cases, may take years to be appealed and finalized, leaving both parties in limbo.

      The Ripple case against the SEC is not over yet, and it could take years before there's a final resolution. The SEC could appeal the decision to the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals, and if they lose there, they could potentially take it to the Supreme Court, but the chances of that are slim. In the meantime, the SEC is stuck with the decision, which has persuasive authority and will likely influence other similar cases. Judge Torres' thorough and thoughtful analysis of the key issues in the Ripple case has set a precedent that other courts will study carefully, even if they're not strictly required to follow it. The delay in the appellate process means that the SEC and Ripple defendants will have to wait for a long time before there's a final resolution.

    • Impact of Ripple vs. SEC decision on crypto ecosystemThe Ripple vs. SEC decision could impact token teams, exchanges, and future issuers by providing clarity and certainty on the regulatory status of tokens. The ruling emphasizes the importance of decentralized infrastructure for secure and efficient trading and building decentralized applications.

      The recent court decision in the Ripple vs. SEC case, which ruled that XRP is not a security, has significant implications beyond just the XRP parties involved. This decision could potentially impact various stakeholders within the crypto ecosystem, including existing token teams, exchanges, and future token issuers. The logic of the ruling, which distinguishes the tokens themselves from transactions involving the tokens, holds true for other tokens as well. However, it's important to note that the SEC may still argue that the facts and circumstances surrounding specific token projects are different. Overall, this ruling is a significant development in the crypto space and could lead to more clarity and certainty for token issuers and investors. The decision also highlights the importance of decentralized infrastructure, such as Uniswap and Arbitrum, which provide secure, fast, and cost-effective solutions for trading and building decentralized applications.

    • Not All Tokens Traded on Exchanges Are SecuritiesJudge's ruling in XRP case does not establish a blanket rule for all secondary token sales on exchanges. Transactions involving non-security assets are not securities transactions.

      Just because a token is traded on an exchange, it doesn't automatically make it a security. However, if there's an investment contract involved where buyers are expecting profits based on the seller's efforts, then the token could be considered a security. The recent XRP case does not set a blanket ruling on all secondary trading on exchanges, as some people might have assumed. The judge's footnote acknowledges the possibility of such scenarios and emphasizes that she was not addressing them in her ruling. The SEC's argument of classifying exchanges as securities exchanges and listing tokens as securities is challenged by this case, as the transactions on exchanges involving assets that are not securities themselves are not securities transactions. It's important for projects to be mindful of securities laws, even when dealing with assets that are not deemed securities in the given scenario.

    • Understanding the Complexity of Token ClassificationThe Ripple case adds to the debate on whether all tokens are securities, emphasizing the importance of considering the unique facts and circumstances surrounding each token sale, including the relationship between buyer and seller and the presence or absence of promises or contractual commitments.

      That the recent court decision in the Ripple case adds to the growing body of evidence suggesting that not all tokens are securities, and the distinction between the token itself and the investment contract created by its sale is crucial. The court's decision in the Ripple case, as well as previous cases like the Library case, highlights the importance of considering the specific facts and circumstances surrounding the sale of a token, particularly the relationship between the buyer and the seller, and the presence or absence of promises or contractual commitments. This decision could provide some clarity for teams looking to issue tokens in the future, but it's important to remember that it's not binding precedent and other courts may disagree. Ultimately, the onus is on the legal community to ensure that courts consider each token transaction on a case-by-case basis, tracing it back to the essential managerial efforts of the issuer and the promises made to buyers.

    • Court Ruling on Whiskey Warehouse Receipts and SecuritiesClear communication and promises between investors and issuers are crucial for avoiding securities classification for tokens. Legislation is needed to establish a framework for token issuance and exchange, balancing investor protection and innovation in crypto space.

      The recent court ruling regarding whiskey warehouse receipts and their classification as securities highlights the importance of clear communication and promises between investors and issuers. For token holders, this means that without explicit promises or a bilateral relationship with the issuer, their tokens are less likely to be considered securities. However, the lack of clear regulatory framework leaves token holders vulnerable without adequate protection. The SEC's focus on litigation instead of rulemaking has left retail investors exposed and without a clear path for innovation and regulation. The solution, according to the speaker, is for legislation to provide a framework for token issuance and exchange, ensuring both protection for investors and room for innovation in the crypto space.

    • Clarification on Cryptocurrency Regulations NeededThe Ripple vs. SEC case highlights the need for clear cryptocurrency regulations in the US and the importance of defining the regulatory framework for these assets to create an effective market structure.

      The recent court decision in the Ripple vs. SEC case highlights the need for clear regulations and legislation regarding cryptocurrencies in the US. The decision provides important clarification on the distinction between tokens and investment contracts but does not provide the legal certainty needed for effective market structure regulation. The regulatory gap identified in this case necessitates congressional action to pass legislation that defines the regulatory framework for these assets and creates a market structure for their exchange. The Emmer bill and other proposed legislation are steps in the right direction, but more comprehensive regulation is needed. The decision has given momentum to ongoing legislative efforts and may lead to progress in the coming weeks and months.

    • Bipartisan consensus on crypto regulationsPolitical differences aside, there's a growing agreement on the need for crypto regulations to address disparities between institutional and retail investors. The SEC's recent actions have left the industry uncertain, but legislation could provide clarity and investor protection.

      Despite political differences, there is a bipartisan consensus emerging on the need for regulations in the crypto space, specifically addressing the disparity between institutional investors and retail investors. The SEC's recent about-face on this issue, as seen in the Hinman documents and recent court cases, has left many in the industry feeling uncertain and concerned about the lack of clear regulatory guidelines. The potential for legislation to provide clarity and protect investors is seen as a real possibility, but there may still be legal battles ahead. Gary Gensler and the SEC have been strategic in their approach, and it is expected that they will continue to litigate these cases and potentially appeal losses. The road to clear regulation for crypto in the US may still have some challenges ahead.

    • SEC's SRP tokens win raises questionsJudge's crypto-not-securities ruling challenges SEC's stance, questioning regulatory overreach and importance of disclosure-based framework

      The SEC's recent statement regarding the SRP tokens case should be viewed with a critical perspective. The SEC's framing of the outcome as a win raises questions about their motivations and the potential loss of credibility on crypto regulatory issues. The judge's ruling that crypto assets are not securities in and of themselves is a significant development, and the SEC's persistent claim to the contrary is facing pushback from both the legal community and the judiciary. This inflection point highlights the importance of maintaining a disclosure-based regulatory framework and questioning administrative state overreach. It's crucial to remember that the SEC's narrative does not make it true, and there are strong voices challenging their perspective. The crypto and DeFi spaces remain risky, and seeking professional advice is essential.

    • Exploring the new frontier of decentralized financeThe decentralized finance movement offers potential rewards but comes with risks. Joining this frontier could lead to losses, but the future of finance could be more equitable.

      The journey towards decentralized finance, or "bankless," comes with risks, but it's an exciting frontier worth exploring. Just as pioneers headed west in search of new opportunities, those who choose to join the bankless movement may face losses along the way. But the potential rewards are significant, and the community is glad to have you on board. It's not for everyone, but for those who are willing to take the risk, the future of finance could be decentralized and more equitable. So, even if you may lose what you put in, keep in mind that the bigger picture is heading west towards a new frontier in finance.

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    https://www.jokerace.io/contest/base/0x0f2211f6727e85dbfae20e7dbfe57875a1f2b706 


    1:13:45 Another voting for Bankless Nation! 
    https://www.jokerace.io/contest/base/0x0bac0ec9b6aeafa6c2212f67a67950940eda63a7 


    1:15:38 MEME of the Week 
    https://x.com/PleasrDAO/status/1803572250278514999 


    1:16:17 Closing & Disclaimers


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    Bankless
    enJune 21, 2024

    Diaries of an ETH Maxi on Wall Street | Sam Jernigan

    Diaries of an ETH Maxi on Wall Street | Sam Jernigan

    Sam Jernigan, the “Unofficial ETH Maxi of Wall Street”, has been evangelizing Ethereum to institutional funds and billionaires from inside the house for the past five years.

    Having the perfect blend of deep Ethereum knowledge and the full Wall Street experience, Sam guides us through how he became an ETH Maxi, why the lack of understanding of ETH in TradFi is the most bullish case for the asset and what the future holds for ETH institutional adoption.

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    0:00 Intro
    7:47 Defining TradFi
    20:05 Ethereum’s P/E Ratio
    23:49 Sam’s Background
    40:44 Becoming an ETH Maxi
    52:57 The State of ETH in TradFi
    57:38 ETH Bull Case
    1:06:11 The Flippening
    1:12:11 ETH ETF
    1:19:26 Security vs Commodity Debate
    1:24:00 TradFi: Friend or Foe?
    1:34:39 Regulation
    1:46:07 Closing & Disclaimers

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    Sam Jernigan on X
    https://x.com/sjerniganiv  

    Sam Jernigan on LikedIn
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/samjernigan07302015/  

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    enJune 19, 2024

    ETH to $22k by 2030? | VanEck's Matthew Sigel

    ETH to $22k by 2030? | VanEck's Matthew Sigel

    In this episode, David Hoffman is joined by Matthew Sigel, Head of Digital Assets Research at VanEck, to unpack VanEck's groundbreaking ETH 2030 report. They discuss the $154,000 bull case, $22,000 base case, and $340 bear case for Ethereum, and the factors behind these predictions. 

    Matthew dives deep into the role of ETH ETFs and shares insights into ETH's evolving narrative in institutional portfolios. He also provides interesting analogies and comparisons between ETH and Web 2.0, explaining how VanEck will help traditional investors understand and invest in ETH using these narratives and real market data. 

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    0:00 Intro
    7:16 VanEck Vibe Check ?
    8:11 VanEck ETH 2030 Price Prediction Report 
    12:31 Last Year’s Report vs. Present Report 
    15:10 Ethereum Narrative For Retail
    19:14 Pitching ETH To Customers
    25:15 Parameters For Bear, Base & Bull?
    28:49 What If ETH Reaches $154,000 
    32:31 ETH’s Most Bearish & Bullish Scenarios 
    33:40 Solana’s MEV vs. ETH’s MEV
    41:28  BTC & ETH Allocation In Portfolio 
    45:59 Can Data Help Matthew Convince Customers?
    49:30 $15B In ETF Assets
    50:30 Closing & Disclosures 

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    Matthew Sigel
    https://x.com/matthew_sigel 

    VanEck
    https://www.vaneck.com/us/en/ 
    https://www.vaneck.com/us/en/blogs/digital-assets/matthew-sigel-eth-2030-price-target/ 

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    Bankless
    enJune 18, 2024

    CZ, Bull Market Predictions & The Future of Binance | New CEO Richard Teng

    CZ, Bull Market Predictions & The Future of Binance | New CEO Richard Teng

    Now that CZ is gone, who’s going to fill his shoes?

    His name is Richard Teng, the new Binance CEO. He’s joining the podcast today to not only share the story of how he got here, but also to define his vision for the future of Binance.

    We ask him:
    Who is Richard Teng?
    What was it like to work with CZ?
    Why Crypto?
    What is going on in Nigeria?
    Bull Market Predictions?

    If you want to know who’s taking charge in the next era of Binance, this episode is for you. 

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    0:00 Intro
    7:16 Who’s Richard Teng
    15:54 The Last 2 Years
    24:30 Filling CZ Shoes
    34:58 The Future of Binance
    48:33 What is Going on in Nigeria?
    54:31 Why Crypto?
    1:03:33 BNB Chain
    1:05:48 Richard Teng’s Routine
    1:08:25 Bull Market Predictions
    1:14:21 Advice for Investors
    1:16:17 User Fund Security
    1:19:31 Closing & Disclaimers

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    RESOURCES

    Richard Teng
    https://x.com/_RichardTeng  

    Tigran Gambaryan Article
    https://www.binance.com/en/blog/leadership/from-richard-teng-binance-ceo-tigran-gambaryan-is-innocent-and-must-be-released-3634612934164622056  

    Binance Proof of Reserves
    https://www.binance.com/en/proof-of-reserves  

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    enJune 17, 2024

    ROLLUP: ZkSync Airdrop | Optimism Fault Proofs | Pectra Ethereum Upgrade

    ROLLUP: ZkSync Airdrop | Optimism Fault Proofs | Pectra Ethereum Upgrade

    Bankless Friday Weekly Rollup 
    2nd Week of June 2024

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    0:00 Intro

    3:31 Markets

    8:20 Gary G Says ETH ETF Approval “Sometime in Summer”
    https://x.com/tier10k/status/1801261940615848004 

    9:19 L2 Update

    11:04  The Fed expects to cut rates just once this year
    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/12/fed-meeting-today-on-interest-rate.html 

    15:41 Will BTC ETF follow the gold ETF success path?  
    https://x.com/hongkim__/status/1799442365892985257 

    20:48 ZKSync introduced ZK token 
    https://x.com/TheZKNation/status/1800424206129357194 
    https://app.aevo.xyz/perpetual/zk 
    https://x.com/eekeyguy_eth/status/1800461976969035910 
    https://blog.zknation.io/zk-token/ 
    https://zknation.ghost.io/content/images/2024/06/points.png 
    https://x.com/LibraryDefi/status/1800589632909832509 
    https://x.com/Gautamguptagg/status/1800539906923733397 
    https://x.com/Gautamguptagg/status/1800539906923733397 
    https://x.com/TheZKNation/status/1801020410563060031 
    https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1801024526001815616 
    https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1800758353511207103 

    36:46 Speaking of Airdrops: Taiko launched their TAIKO token 
    https://x.com/taikoxyz/status/1798336750668136851 
    Find out whether you are eligible via Claimables! 
    https://bankless.cc/3Jte55n  

    38:33 Optimism’s fault proofs are live! 
    https://x.com/l2beat/status/1800530188171674070 
    https://x.com/VitalikButerin/status/1800547329931620625 

    49:23 Pectra is about to became the biggest upgrade of Ethereum history: 
    https://x.com/sassal0x/status/1798869850200412383 

    55:34 Symbiotic introduced their restaking platform 
    https://x.com/symbioticfi/status/1800530004776022493 

    59:29 Eigen Labs acquired Rio Network 
    https://x.com/eigen_labs/status/1800888626642899321 

    1:01:41 Crypto:The Game was acquired by Uniswap! 
    https://x.com/cryptothegame_/status/1800199946739822594 

    1:06:28 PleasrDAO releases the WuTang Album
    https://pitchfork.com/news/wu-tang-clan-once-upon-a-time-in-shaolin-turned-into-nft/ 
    https://www.thealbum.com/ 

    1:09:12 Terraform Labs agreed to pay SEC $4.5B! 
    https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2024/06/12/terraform-labs-do-kwon-agree-to-pay-sec-a-combined-45b-in-civil-fraud-case/ 
    https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1800955721955283053     

    1:11:44 Alchemy introduced platform for building rollups 
    https://x.com/alchemyplatform/status/1798747911226040679 

    1:13:03 New Paradigm Fund
    https://x.com/matthuang/status/1801283717664526835 

    1:14:41 The Daily Gwei 
    https://www.youtube.com/@TheDailyGwei/videos  
    https://x.com/thedailygwei  
    https://x.com/sassal0x 
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/into-the-ether/id1443920565  

    1:15:49 Closing & Disclaimers

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    Bankless
    enJune 14, 2024

    BitVM: The Holy Grail for Bitcoin? | Creator Robin Linus

    BitVM: The Holy Grail for Bitcoin? | Creator Robin Linus

    Today on the show, we’re exploring the frontier of ZK Rollups on Bitcoin! 

    The Bitcoin L2 landscape is standing on the shoulders of this technical implementation called BitVM. We brought Robin Linus, one of the author’s of the BitVM White Paper, to not only dive into how BitVM got started, but more importantly, what it means for the future of Bitcoin.

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    0:00 Intro
    5:03 Who is Robin Linus?
    10:20 Why Bitcoin?
    16:19 Bitcoin Needs to Scale
    22:15 BitVM Eureka Moment
    24:31 The State of BitVM
    27:19 BitVM vs Ethereum Rollups
    33:45 How Does BitVM Work?
    46:07 BitVM Critiques
    55:07 The Bitcoin L2 Space
    59:33 The BitVM Endgame
    1:03:07 The Future of Bitcoin
    1:07:09 Closing & Disclaimers

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    Robin Linus Website
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    BitVM
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    enJune 13, 2024

    The Trillion Dollar ETH Pitch | RSA+DH

    The Trillion Dollar ETH Pitch | RSA+DH

    The Ethereum ETF is coming. What’s the best narrative for ETH to sell to TradFi/Wall Street? Ryan and David discuss the 7 leading ETH Narratives and then have a pitch-off amongst themselves. Each of them prepared a 1-2 minute pitch and then they each spend some time unpacking each other’s pitch and analyzing each point. Bankless Citizens get to vote - whose was better? Ryan or David’s? The winner gets a bragging rights POAP. 

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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Intro

    2:26 Eric Balchunas
    https://x.com/EricBalchunas/status/1794023427327533456 

    4:44 ETH Narratives
    https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1795595286972383494  

    5:58 Ethereum is a Tokenization Platform
    https://twitter.com/ChainLinkGod/status/1798133271139901668 
    https://twitter.com/ChainLinkGod/status/1798133271139901668/photo/1 

    9:26 Ethereum is an app store
    https://twitter.com/jdorman81/status/1792927796353814640 

    13:56 Operating system and app store
    https://x.com/RasterlyRock/status/1791217181012701682 

    17:15 ETH is Digital Oil
    ​​https://twitter.com/0xkydo/status/1740750772093296938  

    20:37 ETH is an Internet Bond
    https://www.bankless.com/eth-the-internet-bond 

    23:38 Programmable Money
    https://x.com/econoar/status/1124311475428790273 

    25:59 "ETH is Ultra Sound Money"
    https://twitter.com/drakefjustin/status/1352734923703123968 

    31:44 Pitches + Debrief/Analysis + Vote https://www.jokerace.io/contest/base/0x0f2211f6727e85dbfae20e7dbfe57875a1f2b706 

    44:05 Closing & Disclaimers

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    enJune 12, 2024

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