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    If You Want To Win You Need To Account for Risk

    en-usDecember 11, 2023

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    • Considering both financial and personal aspects in retirement planningDiscuss finances, but also consider personal goals and societal contributions when planning for retirement

      Retirement is not just about feelings, but also about facts and figures. A couple, Jason and his wife, were having a disagreement about retirement due to different feelings. However, when they discussed their finances, it was clear that mathematically, Jason had enough savings to retire comfortably, even if his wife continued working. But Dave Ramsey, the host, advised against retiring and doing nothing, suggesting instead that Jason consider starting a business or pursuing a side hustle to maintain work-life balance and continue contributing to society. This conversation highlights the importance of considering both financial and personal aspects when planning for retirement.

    • Emotional and psychological factors can hinder belief and action on financial dataEven high earners can be held back from financial peace by emotional and psychological barriers, such as fear of running out of money or feelings of scarcity.

      While math and financial data can provide a clear picture of one's financial situation, there are often emotional and psychological factors at play that can prevent individuals from fully believing and acting on that information. In the discussed situation, a woman, despite earning a high income, was unable to retire due to her fear of running out of money. She came from a background where everything worked, and math worked in her family. However, she didn't believe the data, likely due to an emotional or psychological issue. A friend's experience with a real estate agent who was a millionaire but couldn't relax and sell more property because of her mindset, illustrates this concept. This issue is not unique to the woman or her friend, as even billionaires can struggle with feelings of scarcity and the need to keep stacking wealth. It's essential to address these emotional and psychological barriers to achieve financial peace.

    • Creating a debt snowball planSell unnecessary items and focus extra payments on smallest debt for quick debt repayment and future financial freedom

      Justin, an active duty military member, shared his struggle with managing debt, specifically credit card debt and a car loan. Rachel, a best-selling author, offered advice on creating a debt snowball plan, which involves listing debts from smallest to largest and focusing extra payments on the smallest debt first. Rachel emphasized the importance of sacrificing now to achieve financial freedom and live a wealthy life later. Justin's situation resonated with Rachel, as she had experienced bankruptcy at a young age and learned to get out of debt and stay out of it. She encouraged Justin to sell unnecessary items, such as his motorcycle and car, to put more money towards debt repayment. By following this plan and living like no one else now, Justin can look forward to living and giving like no one else in the future.

    • Focus on debt repayment before large purchases or investmentsPrioritize living below your means, create a budget, sell unnecessary items, and avoid debt, especially in retirement. Consider long-term financial implications and secure life insurance.

      Focusing on getting out of debt should be a priority over making large purchases or investments that require borrowed money. The speaker emphasizes the importance of living below your means, creating and sticking to a budget, and selling unnecessary items to put extra funds towards debt repayment. Even retirees should avoid going into debt, no matter how tempting the opportunity may seem. The speaker also encourages listeners to consider the long-term financial implications of their decisions and to prioritize securing life insurance to protect their families in case of unexpected events.

    • Expanding a show's reach with a relatable co-hostA relatable co-host with a compelling personal story can help a show reach new international markets. Brandon and Hannah paid off $91,500 in debt in 4 years, sacrificing their honeymoon funds to do so, but the feeling of being debt-free was priceless.

      Having a relatable and recognizable figure, in this case a co-host with Egyptian heritage, can expand a show's reach to new international markets. The discussed couple, Brandon and Hannah, paid off a significant amount of debt in just four years, going from making $48,000 to $143,000 collectively. They had $73,000 in student loans, $18,500 in credit card debt, and were paying back a car loan. Brandon's call to Dave Ramsey's show four years ago led them on their debt-free journey, which included using the Total Money Makeover book and having monthly budget meetings. They were able to cash flow Hannah's master's degree, and her master's in public relations helped her secure a higher paying job. The couple's determination to become debt-free led them to sacrifice their honeymoon funds to pay off their debt, but the feeling of being debt-free was described as "amazing" and a "literal weight off their shoulders."

    • Paying off debt in your 20s and 30sDedication, budgeting, side hustles, living below means, simplifying finances, consistency, emergency fund, and focusing on financial goals can help pay off debt even in your 20s and 30s.

      With dedication, perseverance, and the right tools, getting out of debt is possible, even in your 20s and 30s. The couple in the discussion paid off $110,000 in debt in four years through budgeting, side hustles, and living below their means. They emphasized the importance of simplifying finances and staying consistent, even when it feels overwhelming. They also highlighted the importance of having an emergency fund and not relying on minimum payments. By focusing on their financial goals and staying committed, they were able to achieve financial freedom and inspire others to do the same.

    • Focus on finding the right house at the right timeConsider buying a home when it's the right fit, refinance when rates drop, and understand financial implications before making a large investment.

      When it comes to buying a home, it's important to focus on finding the right house at the right time rather than trying to time the interest rate market. Buying a home and refinancing when rates come down is a viable option. Additionally, having a large sum of money, like a settlement, does not necessarily mean putting it all into a house as a down payment. It's essential to understand the financial implications, such as taxes and ownership structure, before making a decision. Overall, careful planning and consideration are key when making significant financial decisions.

    • Financial security and legal protection in relationshipsPrioritize paying cash for a house, building an emergency fund, and investing the difference for long-term growth. Maintain legal separation until marriage to avoid potential complications.

      Financial security and legal protection are crucial in relationships, especially when it comes to shared assets like a house. Using the example of a man with a paid-off house, significant savings, and a low income, the experts advised against borrowing against the house to invest, due to the inherent risks involved. They suggested paying cash for a house, building an emergency fund, and investing the difference for long-term financial growth. Additionally, they emphasized the importance of maintaining legal separation until marriage, to avoid potential complications and vulnerabilities in the event of a breakup. Overall, the experts encouraged listeners to prioritize financial stability and security in their relationships.

    • The U.S. National Debt: Borrowing from Foreign CreditorsThe U.S. national debt is a complex issue resulting from spending more than earning, financed by selling Treasury bonds to creditors, including foreign entities. Politically, repayment would require significant budget cuts, potentially causing backlash.

      The United States national debt is the result of the government spending more than it earns through taxes and other revenue sources. This debt is financed by selling Treasury bonds to individuals and foreign entities, who become creditors to the U.S. The danger lies in the political implications of owing large sums to foreign countries. The debt cannot be paid off mathematically, but politically, it would require significant cuts to various programs and subsidies, which could be met with strong opposition and potentially even backlash. The interest on the debt is a significant portion of the budget, making it challenging to balance. Ultimately, the national debt is a complex issue with far-reaching implications that requires careful consideration and a long-term solution.

    • Effectively managing personal finances vs federal budgetLearning to say 'no' and living within means is crucial for personal finance success, while the federal government faces challenges in balancing its budget due to the inability to say 'no' to funding requests.

      Individuals and families can effectively manage their finances by learning to say "no" and living within their means, while the federal government faces challenges in balancing its budget due to the inability to say "no" to funding requests. A listener shared her experience helping her sister with learning disabilities manage her finances using the debt-free strategy, demonstrating the importance of personal financial discipline. However, the passing of her father has led to new challenges as her mother wants to travel but doesn't want to leave her house empty, potentially involving the sister in a living arrangement. The discussion also touched upon the economic theory that tax cuts can lead to increased revenues, but the political reality is that saying "no" is a necessary component of budget management that the federal government must adopt.

    • Owning a paid-off property in retirementOwning a paid-off property can significantly reduce retirement expenses and provide financial stability and peace of mind

      Owning a paid-off property can provide significant financial stability and security in retirement. In the discussion, it was mentioned that a sister could potentially make $150,000 from selling her townhouse and invest a portion of it into retirement. However, there's a concern that she might not have enough for her retirement years due to health issues and potential expenses. The speaker also mentioned that their mother, who is 70+ years old and travels frequently, owns a paid-off $300,000 house, which provides her with financial stability and peace of mind. The speaker emphasized the importance of owning a property going into retirement years and suggested gifting or legally transferring the house to the sister as a way to ensure her financial security. This could potentially reduce the largest expense item in retirement, housing, and provide stability and comfort for both parties.

    • Helping family members secure their futureAssisting loved ones in owning property or learning financial skills can lead to financial stability and independence, potentially sacrificing a larger inheritance.

      Helping a family member take ownership of a property to secure their financial future and independence can be a noble decision, even if it means sacrificing a larger inheritance. This was exemplified in a caller's story, where she helped her mother transfer ownership of a house to her sister, allowing her sister to gain financial stability and independence. Additionally, the power of financial education, such as Dave Ramsey's Financial Peace University, can inspire individuals to pay off their debts and build wealth, as demonstrated by a couple who paid off $297,000 in five and a half years while living on an income range of $86,000 to $212,000.

    • The Power of Financial Education and Living Below Your MeansFinancial education and sticking to a zero-based budget can help you pay off debt and achieve financial freedom, even with limited resources.

      Financial education and living below your means are key to getting out of debt and achieving financial freedom. The couple shared their inspiring story of paying off $100,000 in debt within nine weeks by implementing the principles they learned in Dave Ramsey's Financial Peace University (FPU) class. They emphasized the importance of a zero-based budget and being prepared for emergencies. The couple also highlighted the support they received from their community, including their family and the FPU class back home, in their journey to financial freedom. Despite not growing up in wealthy families, they encouraged others to follow in their footsteps and prioritize their finances, even if it goes against societal norms. They emphasized that the secret to getting out of debt is taking FPU and sticking to a zero-based budget. The couple's success story is a testament to the power of financial education and living below your means.

    • The importance of a trustworthy support system in achieving financial goalsSurround yourself with individuals who honor their commitments and help make smart financial decisions to reach your goals faster.

      Having the right support system, including a trustworthy real estate agent, can make a significant difference in achieving financial goals, such as becoming debt-free. Shawn England and his wife paid off their $400,000 house and $700,600 in retirement debt in just five and a half years. However, they encountered a challenge with an outstanding $17,000 student loan in my husband's name, which his father had verbally agreed to pay off but failed to do so. This situation, along with other instances of lack of integrity and irresponsibility from the father, strained their relationship and added to their financial burden. It's crucial to learn from such experiences and surround yourself with individuals who honor their commitments and help you make smart financial decisions.

    • Addressing unexpected financial burdens with open communicationWhen dealing with unexpected financial burdens, communicate openly with your partner and create a plan to tackle the debt together, rather than letting emotions hinder the relationship.

      When dealing with unexpected financial burdens, it's essential to address the issue head-on with open communication between partners. In this case, a husband's father had taken out a loan in his name without intending to pay it back, causing a significant debt that delayed their home purchase. The wife felt angry and betrayed, but the speaker advised acknowledging the situation and discussing it openly with her husband. They needed to prioritize paying off the debt and not let the emotional burden hinder their relationship. It's crucial to understand that sometimes, people may not keep their promises, and it's essential to accept that and move forward. While it's not ideal, open communication and a solid plan to tackle the debt can help maintain a healthy relationship.

    • Maintaining financial integrity in relationshipsHonesty in finances is key to relationship success. Unexpected expenses require emergency funds, and managing rental income involves setting aside funds for emergencies and scaling back expenses for major events.

      Financial integrity is crucial in relationships and it's essential to keep your word and maintain a pattern of honesty. The discussion highlighted a situation where a man's financial mismanagement led to marital issues, and it was emphasized that such behavior is not a singular event but a pattern. Another topic touched upon was the importance of having an emergency fund for real estate investments, as unexpected expenses can arise. Lastly, a listener's question about managing rental income was addressed, with advice to set aside funds for emergencies and consider scaling down expenses for major events like weddings.

    • Discussing debt repayment before marriageConsidering debt repayment before marriage can help prevent financial stress and potential risks. Prioritize debt repayment or sell assets to pay off debt and start married life debt-free.

      When planning a wedding and managing debt, prioritizing debt repayment before getting married can be a wise decision. This was discussed during a conversation between Dave Ramsey and a couple considering getting married with significant debt and a large amount of savings. Although there's no requirement to be debt-free before marriage, having a plan to tackle debt together can help prevent financial stress and potential risks. The couple, who had $300,000 in savings, were advised to sell their house, put their debt repayment on hold temporarily, and use the funds to pay off their debt and get married sooner. This approach can help reduce financial stress and allow the couple to start their married life debt-free. However, everyone's situation is unique, and it's essential to consider individual circumstances before making a decision.

    • Paying off a quarter million dollar mortgage in 28 monthsWith a clear financial goal, determination, and smart decisions, significant debt can be paid off in a short time. Inspired by Dave Ramsey, a couple paid off their mortgage in 28 months, focusing on debt repayment instead of accumulating assets or timing the market.

      With a clear financial goal, determination, and smart financial decisions, it's possible to pay off significant debt in a relatively short period of time. In this case, two accountants paid off a quarter million dollar mortgage in just 28 months. They were inspired by Dave Ramsey and the simplicity of his finance advice. Their unconventional approach of focusing on debt repayment instead of accumulating more assets or trying to time the market, allowed them to achieve financial freedom at a young age. Their mother-in-law served as a motivator and cheerleader throughout their journey. After paying off their mortgage, they treated themselves to a luxury hot tub, and are now on their way to becoming multi-millionaires. The couple's story serves as an inspiration for anyone looking to take control of their finances and secure a debt-free future.

    • Effective communication and alignment on financial goalsStick to a budget, seek help, prioritize financial discipline, and live with intention to overcome debt and build wealth.

      Effective communication and alignment on financial goals are key to overcoming debt and building wealth. As shared in the conversation, a couple's experience of paying off 120,000 in debt in just 28 months highlights the importance of being accountable to each other and sticking to a budget. The couple's success story also underscores the significance of seeking help and support from professionals and loved ones when needed. Ultimately, the decision to prioritize financial discipline and sacrifice in the short term can lead to a drastically different and financially secure future. As Dave Ramsey emphasizes, it's important to avoid the "normal" path of living in financial stress and instead, strive to be "weird" and live with intention and purpose.

    • Following up makes a difference in people's livesFollowing up on a call for help and providing ongoing support can save someone's home and change their life. Community and small acts of kindness can make a big impact.

      Following up and providing ongoing support can make a significant difference in people's lives, especially during times of financial crisis. The discussion revolved around a call from a woman named Sarah, who was facing foreclosure on her home after her husband's tragic death and the insurance company's refusal to pay workers' compensation. Sarah was in a dire situation, with no car, no family nearby, and a new job that barely covered her expenses. The call ended with a commitment to help Sarah, but the show didn't follow up to see how things turned out. However, the hosts decided to change that and shared Sarah's story on the show. They connected her with a counselor and, remarkably, a local roofing company stepped in to help cover the missing payments and save Sarah's home from foreclosure. This story underscores the importance of following up and providing ongoing support to those in need. It also highlights the power of community and the difference that small acts of kindness can make.

    • The Power of Community and GenerosityDuring hardships, community support and small acts of kindness can make a big difference, enabling individuals to overcome challenges and get back on their feet.

      During difficult times, the power of community and generosity can make a significant difference in people's lives. Sarah's story is a testament to this, as she faced financial hardships but was able to turn her situation around with the help of listeners inspired by her resilience. The generosity of these individuals, as well as a company that stepped in, provided Sarah with essential resources and support, enabling her to get back on her feet. This story underscores the importance of having a strong community and the impact that small acts of kindness can have on those in need. Additionally, Sarah's determination and perseverance serve as a reminder that, with the right mindset and resources, it's possible to overcome even the most challenging circumstances.

    • Getting back on track financiallyFocus on paying off debt, building an emergency fund, and investing in retirement to regain control of finances and make progress towards goals.

      Despite feeling behind on savings and financial goals, the speaker has the means to get back on track through a focused approach. With a good income and some existing savings, the first steps include paying off debt, building an emergency fund, and investing in retirement. The speaker's current stress can be alleviated by taking action on these steps and maintaining focus, even if it means making difficult choices like selling crypto or delaying a large purchase like an engagement ring. By following a proven plan like the Baby Steps from Dave Ramsey, the speaker can gain a sense of control and make significant progress towards their financial goals.

    • Old debts can resurface with added fees and interestKeep clear records to avoid being taken advantage of by debt collectors when dealing with old debts.

      Old debts can resurface with significant increases in balance due to added fees and interest, even if the original debt was settled. A listener shared her experience of paying off a long-standing payday loan, only to receive new demands for payment from collection agencies. She emphasized the importance of keeping records and proof of payment settlements to avoid being taken advantage of by debt collectors. The listener's story serves as a reminder to be vigilant when dealing with old debts and to keep clear records to protect yourself from potential scams. Additionally, the Ramsey Show encourages listeners to seek financial peace through faith in Christ Jesus and to access a wide range of financial advice and resources through the Ramsey Network app.

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