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    Innovating Spend Management through AI with Pedro Franceschi from Brex

    enAugust 08, 2024
    What services does Brex provide to companies?
    How has Brex's management structure changed recently?
    In which areas is Brex exploring AI innovations?
    What is Brex's approach to marketing automation?
    How does Brex aim to enhance customer engagement?

    Podcast Summary

    • Brex expansionBrex, a corporate card and spent management platform, is expanding its services to over 130 public companies and serving one in every three startups, while exploring AI innovations in product improvement, accounting, and expense assistant.

      Brex, a corporate card and spent management platform, is revolutionizing financial decision-making for companies of all sizes. Co-founder and CEO Pedro Franceschi shared that they serve over 10,000 businesses, one in every three startups, and 130 public companies. Recently, Pedro and his co-founder Enrique shifted from co-CEOs to a traditional CEO structure, simplifying management and decision-making processes. European AI companies, including Brex, have seen an increase in the co-CEO structure, particularly for technical and business background founders. Looking ahead, Brex is exploring AI innovations in three areas: product improvement, accounting, and expense assistant, aiming to make expense management more efficient and effective. Pedro emphasized that nothing significant has changed in the company's day-to-day operations, and they remain committed to providing value to their customers and investors.

    • AI in financeBrex successfully implemented AI in finance by focusing on exposing ambiguity, creating better customer experiences, and understanding potential options and context. As a result, they automated over a third of their expenses and have over 30,000 customers using their AI assistant for expense compliance.

      Brex, a financial technology company, identified three key areas to apply artificial intelligence (AI) in their business: go-to-market and operations, developer productivity, and customer experience in expense management. The company started exploring AI solutions around 18 months ago, after being inspired by Chatcha BT's capabilities. The mental model Brex used was that if humans were free, they would automate tasks in expense management and accounting. The most significant progress has been made in go-to-market and operations, including prospecting, KYC, underwriting, and compliance. Brex began experimenting with AI tools to automate expense management and corporate card expenses, aiming to provide an executive-like experience with minimal human intervention. The result was Brax Assistant, which now has over 30,000 customers using it for expense compliance, and over a third of their expenses are completed automatically. To build AI solutions, Brex focused on exposing ambiguity to the user, creating better customer experiences, and understanding potential options and context. This approach has led to the successful implementation of AI in their business, despite the challenges of reliability and risk associated with AI in the finance industry. The company's velocity in this area is impressive, as it has managed to build conviction in its AI suggestions and get them into production quickly.

    • AI user acceptanceTo build user trust and acceptance of AI models in workflows, present suggestions as options for users to review and approve, address ambiguity, and prioritize initiatives based on customer experience and impact.

      Integrating AI models into existing workflows requires a thoughtful approach to build user trust and acceptance. While AI models can provide valuable suggestions, they often come with ambiguity that needs to be addressed. Traditional data science skills have become essential in scoring and understanding the quality of AI results, as well as in adding context to suggestions in a user-friendly way. For instance, instead of automating tasks completely, it's more effective to present suggestions as options for users to review and approve. This approach helps users get comfortable with the level of ambiguity that AI output can provide and fosters trust in the platform. Historical precedence shows that users need time to adjust to new technologies and interfaces, and smart UI design plays a crucial role in making the transition smoother. Prioritizing initiatives that create the biggest difference in customer experience and touch the largest number of users is an effective strategy for allocating resources in AI applications.

    • Automating Accounting Processes, Scaling MarketingBrex automated accounting processes to save time, scaled marketing to a more personalized approach, and quantified customer value to target specific accounts with relevant information.

      Brex, a financial operations company, identified the need to automate accounting processes to save time for their team and provide better value to their customers. They focused on scaling marketing as a primary area for impact, moving from a manual, account-based marketing approach to a more automated and personalized one. By quantifying the value Brex provides to customers, they can now target specific accounts with highly relevant information, offering a level of personalization that an SDR could not provide through outbound emails. The ultimate goal is to effectively manage their entire Total Addressable Market (TAM) within their systems and target each account with highly relevant and valuable information.

    • Large language models in sales and marketingLarge language models enable businesses to gain deeper insights into potential customers and tailor outreach efforts with personalized and data-driven marketing, creating almost infinite markets and outscaling human capabilities.

      The use of large language models in sales and marketing is revolutionizing the way businesses approach customer engagement. Instead of relying on commoditized email generation tools, companies can now leverage these models to gain deeper insights into potential customers and tailor their outreach efforts accordingly. This approach goes beyond simple email personalization and requires the collection and enrichment of customer data to create highly targeted and relevant marketing messages. The process involves consolidating data and building signals that can increase the likelihood of converting potential accounts. While the composition of emails is important, the real challenge lies in the technical effort of data consolidation. This shift towards more personalized and data-driven marketing is not only more effective but also less likely to be perceived as spam. Ultimately, this approach allows businesses to create almost infinite markets and outscale their human capabilities, giving them a competitive edge in the marketplace.

    • AI impact on money movementDespite AI's potential in marketing and data analysis, traditional money movement functions remain robust and durable due to their fundamental nature, with complex tasks like global payments and local currency settlement remaining challenging at scale for AI.

      While AI can bring significant advantages to businesses, particularly in marketing and data analysis, there are also essential functions that remain durable and robust, such as money movement. The speaker, who built an internal customer data platform for Brexit due to limitations with existing tools, emphasizes the importance of collecting and interpreting unique signals for marketing success. He also highlights the durability of businesses that handle fundamental functions like money movement, which are less likely to be directly impacted by AI. Despite the potential of AI to accelerate businesses, complex tasks like global payments and local currency settlement remain challenging at scale. Large public companies, for instance, turn to Brexit for solutions due to the need for global cards and local currency settlement, which Brexit provides by going straight to the metal and not relying on third-party vendors.

    • AI in FinanceAI streamlines traditional financial processes and automates labor-intensive tasks, providing real-time visibility and enhancing decision-making capabilities in finance.

      While AI is an essential component of Brexit's business model, the real value lies in streamlining traditional financial processes like money movement and compliance. Brexit's success comes from integrating directly with MasterCard and local payment rails, allowing them to handle large-scale transactions efficiently. However, AI plays a crucial role in labor-intensive tasks such as adverse media monitoring and compliance. Looking beyond Brexit's immediate plans, AI's impact on finance extends beyond money movement. The finance industry operates in three horizons: corporate cards, total spend, and continuous finance. In the future, real-time visibility into every dollar flowing in and out of a business will be possible, transforming accounting and finance into reporting and data cleanup jobs. As AI advances, it will eliminate the need for traditional ERPs and provide a real-time layer into a business's financial data, enabling more granular analysis across various data sources. Ultimately, AI's role in finance is to automate labor-intensive tasks, provide real-time visibility, and enhance decision-making capabilities.

    • Continuous finance and business decisionsContinuous finance enabled by AI allows real-time financial decision making, shifting from quarterly planning. Focusing on high-growth customers and providing unique value can lead to business success.

      Continuous finance, which involves using real-time data to make financial decisions, is a game-changer for businesses. This shift away from traditional quarterly planning and reporting is enabled by AI and can significantly impact a company's operations. Another key takeaway is the importance of focus and customer obsession in business decision-making. The speaker shares how they made the difficult decision to no longer serve small businesses and focus on high-growth startups and enterprises. They emphasize that spreading resources too thin across multiple customer segments can lead to mediocre results. The speaker's experience shows that scaling with customers and providing value that sets you apart from competitors are crucial factors in making such decisions. Despite the challenges, including letting go of 20,000 customers, the speaker's company has thrived by focusing on its core mission and customer base.

    • Leadership bandwidthA company's success can be impacted by the bandwidth of its leaders, not just team size or product differences. Focusing on fewer things can ultimately lead to greater success.

      Leadership bandwidth, not just team size or product differences, can significantly impact a company's ability to succeed. In the case discussed, a company with 20,000 customers found themselves stretched across four different segments, making it impossible to make effective trade-offs. The root cause was not a lack of resources, but rather the inability of their leaders to focus on the most critical areas. This is a common challenge for growing companies, as leaders often face the temptation to expand into new markets or offerings. However, as this conversation highlights, making hard decisions and focusing on fewer things can ultimately lead to greater success. This is an important reminder for entrepreneurs and business leaders alike, as they navigate the complex world of business and technology. You can find more insights and discussions on this topic, as well as other business and technology trends, by following the NoPryersPod on Twitter, subscribing to our YouTube channel, or listening to us on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Don't forget to sign up for our emails or check out the transcripts for every episode on our website, no-fryers.com.

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