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    Introducing “People I (Mostly) Admire"

    en-usAugust 22, 2020

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    • Emphasizing Progress and Human FlourishingRenowned thinker Stephen Pinker argues for progress through knowledge, reason, science, and reducing human suffering. Our lives are longer, healthier, richer, better educated, and happier than before.

      Renowned thinker and public intellectual Stephen Pinker, a guest on the show, emphasizes that progress is a fact, and it comes about through people applying their ingenuity to reduce human suffering and increase human flourishing. Pinker's latest book, "Enlightenment Now," argues that we should deal with our problems by increasing our knowledge and using reason to understand the world. He also emphasizes the importance of science and the goal of making as many people as possible well-off. Despite the challenges we face, Pinker believes that progress is a fact, and the data supports it. Our lives are longer, healthier, richer, better educated, and happier than they were in the past. Pinker's common sense approach to complex issues and his ability to communicate simple statistics and logical conclusions make him a unique and admirable thinker.

    • The influence of information sources on people's perspectivesEconomists, with their data-driven perspective, often see a more positive world, but journalism's focus on negative events creates a biased sample. A well-rounded education in rationality can help us make informed decisions, despite cognitive biases.

      People's perspectives on the world can be significantly influenced by the sources of information they consume. Economists, who are data-driven, often have a more positive view of the world due to the exponential prosperity growth since the Industrial Revolution. However, journalism tends to focus on negative events that happen suddenly, creating a biased sample of world experience. This can lead some individuals to overlook the substantial improvements that have taken place. Despite the compelling arguments presented in optimistic books, there are still those who hold ideological pessimistic views, whether from the left or the right. Rationality, as a tool to navigate the complexities of the world, is essential for individuals to make informed decisions. A well-rounded education in rationality, including tools like Bayesian reasoning and statistical decision theory, can help us understand the ways in which people are rational and irrational and how to make ourselves smarter, despite our cognitive biases.

    • Redefining High School Mathematics CurriculumSpeaker advocates for teaching Bayesian reasoning and conditional probability in high school math instead of traditional subjects. Personal anecdote about pressure at TED talks. Emphasizes the importance of addressing climate change.

      The current mathematics curriculum in high schools may not be effectively preparing students for real-life applications and valuable knowledge. The speaker expresses a desire to see more valuable mathematics, such as Bayesian reasoning and conditional probability, taught instead of traditional subjects like trigonometry. The speaker also shares a personal anecdote about the pressure and anxiety of speaking after renowned speakers at TED talks. Lastly, the speaker discusses the importance of maintaining a positive outlook on the environment and acknowledges the scientific consensus on climate change, emphasizing the need for action to mitigate its effects.

    • The complex relationship between energy production and climate changeCountries' energy demands persist, making renewables and nuclear power essential. Nuclear power is safer and more scalable than coal, but addressing its challenges is crucial. Technological solutions and carbon removal are key to mitigating climate change's effects.

      Climate change is a byproduct of the desirable process of energy capture, which has led to global development. However, as countries like China, India, and Indonesia continue to grow, the demand for energy will persist. While renewable energy sources are important, they currently cannot provide all the energy the world needs without carbon emissions. Nuclear power, despite its controversies, is a safer and more scalable option than coal, and addressing its challenges, such as waste disposal, is more feasible than dealing with coal's waste. The world's aversion to nuclear power, driven by fear and misconceptions, is puzzling, especially when considering the environmental and health impacts of coal. Technological solutions, such as the adoption and development of new clean energy technologies, are crucial for addressing climate change. These solutions cannot be reversed by political changes and can make clean energy more affordable, reducing the need for persuasion. Additionally, finding ways to remove carbon from the air or cool the earth through geoengineering is essential for mitigating climate change's effects.

    • Collaborative Approach for Solving Pressing IssuesA collaborative approach, like the Manhattan Project, could yield better results for solving pressing issues, but the role of governments and billionaire philanthropists in addressing public goods problems is complex.

      The current independent approach of entrepreneurial scientists trying to solve pressing issues like carbon capture is not the most effective model, especially in the context of an existential crisis like climate change. A more collaborative approach, akin to the Manhattan Project, could yield better results. However, the role of governments and billionaire philanthropists in addressing public goods problems is a complex issue. While there's a backlash against billionaire philanthropists, democratically responsive governments may not have the freedom to experiment and take risks to develop unpopular options. On a lighter note, the author's ability to find humor in seemingly unfunny topics, like the Old Testament's high rates of violence, showcases his unique storytelling skills. By presenting the violent stories factually, he effectively highlights the decline in violence throughout history.

    • Old Testament and its morally questionable actionsThe Old Testament reflects historical values different from modern morality, emphasizing vengeance and superstition, contrasting Enlightenment's truth and factual knowledge.

      Our moral values have evolved significantly over time, and the Old Testament, despite its historical significance, contains instances of morally questionable actions and beliefs that are different from modern values. The discussion highlighted the role of vengeance and the idea that truth and factual knowledge became more important during the Enlightenment. Before this period, people held beliefs that we now consider primitive or superstitious. The Old Testament's narratives, which may include violent acts and moral dilemmas, serve as a reminder of the historical context and the progress we've made in our understanding of morality and truth.

    • Challenging common beliefs and expanding our understanding of realitySpeaking out when work is misrepresented and clarifying truth is important, even when addressing controversial issues.

      Truth is not always easily accessible, and individuals must be intellectually brave to challenge common beliefs and expand our understanding of reality. This was exemplified by the speaker's decision to address controversial issues, such as the debate over gender and spatial ability during her career. She felt compelled to speak out when her work was misrepresented and distorted, and she believed that accurate representation and clarification were important. In the case of Larry Summers' comments on gender and math, she saw a need to correct misconceptions and highlight the importance of considering exceptions and central tendencies rather than fueling moral outrage. The speaker's intellectual bravery and commitment to truth have contributed to expanding our knowledge and challenging conventional wisdom.

    • Embracing Controversy and the Pursuit of TruthIntellectual responsibility requires proposing hypotheses, evaluating them rigorously, and communicating clearly through language to foster insight and understanding.

      Intellectual responsibility involves proposing hypotheses, even if controversial, and subjecting them to rigorous evaluation. This approach, as exemplified in science and knowledge acquisition, encourages the pursuit of truth and fosters insight and clear thinking. Controversy can lead to attention and engagement, but it's essential to make a compelling case backed by evidence. Language, another complex human construct, serves to express complex thoughts. Its intricacy comes from the interplay of memory and algorithms. Memory stores the vast vocabulary and arbitrary associations of words, while algorithms enable the combination of words to create new ideas and expressions. Even seemingly illogical aspects, like irregular verbs or gendered nouns in languages, serve a purpose in expanding the potential for communication and thought.

    • The Evolution of Languages: Memory, Rules, and CommunityLanguages evolve through a combination of memory, rules, and community sharing, resulting in complex systems with unique characteristics and trade-offs.

      Languages are complex systems that evolve through a combination of memory, rules, and community sharing and historical transmission. These elements interact in intricate ways, leading to the development of languages that can be both simple and complicated, with exceptions and complexities accumulating over time. English, for example, has a relatively simple case system but a complicated set of rules for asking questions. The history and politics of a language's speakers also play a significant role in its spread and influence. English has become the world language due to historical and political factors, but there is ongoing debate among linguists about whether it is the best language for global communication. Ultimately, every language makes trade-offs between different criteria, such as ease of articulation for hearers and quick speech for speakers, leading to the unique characteristics of each language.

    • The Evolution of Language and Its Impact on Spelling and LearningLanguage evolves to meet the needs of its speakers, but over-simplification can limit distinctions. Children learn language as a tool for expression and understanding, and the ability to learn new languages declines but doesn't close with age.

      Language is a constantly evolving system that reflects the needs and abilities of its speakers. The history of English spelling is a testament to this, with silent letters and tongue twisters arising from the need for clarity and ease of pronunciation. However, if a language becomes too simplified, it may lose important distinctions and become difficult for outsiders to understand. Similarly, in child development, language acquisition is not a prerequisite for thought, but rather a tool that allows children to express and understand complex ideas. The ability to learn a new language declines with age, but the window for mastery is longer than commonly believed. The key takeaway is that language is a dynamic and essential part of human communication, shaped by both historical and developmental factors.

    • Learning a new language as we ageStart small, build confidence, and persist in learning a new language, even if progress seems slow.

      Learning a new language becomes more challenging as we age, but it's not impossible. The decline in fluency and facility can be offset by using language in context, applying intellect, and remembering irregularities. Social rituals can help lubricate the learning process. For instance, German, despite its complexities, has been a pleasure for the speaker compared to Mandarin. The speaker's experience with Mandarin, despite extensive efforts, resulted in a complete communication breakdown during a trip to China. However, on a subsequent visit, the speaker used a limited set of sentences in every conversation, which led to successful communication. This approach highlights the importance of starting small and building confidence in a new language. It's essential to remember that learning a new language is a journey, and every step, no matter how small, brings us closer to our goal. Additionally, the speaker's anecdotes emphasize the importance of persistence and creativity in language learning.

    • Effective communication goes beyond language rulesAppreciate good, work on challenges, learn from others, and communicate with benign hypocrisy for peace and harmony

      Effective communication goes beyond just knowing the rules of language. It's about using language in a social context to build connections and bridge differences. Life is full of conflicts and disagreements, and it's important to manage them with a certain amount of benign hypocrisy for the sake of peace and harmony. We should also focus on the things that go right in our lives and treat problems as opportunities to be solved, rather than perfect solutions. Lastly, we can learn from those we admire and apply their wisdom to our own lives. As the saying goes, "We're all in this together." Let's strive to appreciate the good and work on the challenges, collectively. This episode was produced by Freakonomics Radio and Stitcher, with the help of James Foster. Our team includes Matt Hickey, David Herman, Allison Craiglow, Greg Rippen, Corinne Wallace, and Emma Terrell. Our music was composed by Luis Guerra. To listen, subscribe to Stitcher Premium, and for more information, visit Radio@Freakonomics.com. Let's aim to have these meaningful conversations more frequently and in more comfortable settings.

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