Jenni Catron and Identity Work as an Enneagram 3 [S04-005]

This week we welcome Enneagram 3, Dr. Joel Muddamalle Director of Theology and Research at Proverbs 31 Ministries and Theologian in Residence with Haven Place Ministries. 

Author of the new book, The Hidden Peace: Finding True Security, Strength, and Confidence Through Humility, Dr. Muddamalle shares the route to inner peace – through humility. 

Tune in as we explore: 

• The three Ps of humility

• How the Enneagram became a huge part of Dr. Muddamalle’s journey into a place of humility, and

• The important role of self-awareness and humor in cultivating humility

 

This week we continue our conversation with best friend duo Amy Weatherly (9w8) and Jess Johnston (7w8), co-founders of the viral page all about friendship, Sister, I Am with You.

In Part 2, we explore:

• what each Enneagram type looks for and needs in a friendship

• how to deal with conflict in relationships and friendships

• when it's time to end a friendship and how to do it well

In an age where everything is about division, this conversation is a breath of fresh air about people coming together to forge meaningful friendships.

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Best friend duo Amy Weatherly (9w8) and Jess Johnston (7w8), co-founders of the viral page all about friendship, Sister, I Am with You, join us for an inspirational look into the hows and whys of doing life together in a culture that constantly tries to keep us separate. 

In Part 1 of this two-part episode, co-authors of the Wall Street Journal bestseller I’ll Be There (But I’ll Be Wearing Sweatpants), and Here For It (the GOOD, the BAD, and the QUESO), Amy and Jess share the impact of the Enneagram on friendships and learning to accept and love people not just as they are, but for who they could become.

“The enneagram is such an important tool for friendship because I know, accepting the hard, moving through the hard, I feel like the Enneagram helps me understand my friends and where they’re coming from on such a better level. To love people as they are. I think it’s a really powerful tool for loving people as they are and for taking some misunderstanding out of the equation,” explains Jess. 

Listen as we explore: 

• how Amy and Jess first clicked over their shared passion for the Enneagram and how it has shaped their friendship

• what it’s like for a 9 and 7 to build connection and work together 

• the definition and purpose of friendship 

They remind us that building connections is not easy. It requires intentional investment to accept and move through the hard pieces that establish authentic friendship. 

Tune in next week as we continue the conversation and explore what each Enneagram type looks for and needs in a friendship. 

 

This week we revisit our conversation with accomplished actor and screenwriter John Schaech, known for his roles in "That Thing You Do" and the upcoming series "Blue Ridge," and his wife, Julie Solomon, a top branding coach, best-selling author, and podcast host. Together, they share their insights into how the Enneagram has shaped their personal and professional lives.

In this episode, we explore:

• How John and Julie navigate their relationship dynamics as an Enneagram Four with a Five Wing and a Three with a Two Wing.

• The impact of past-oriented and future-oriented perspectives in their marriage.

• John's courageous story of addiction and recovery, and how it has transformed his life and career.

• Julie's experience with Al-Anon and her path to self-discovery and healing.

This episode is a testament to the power of self-reflection, the courage to redefine personal beliefs, and the strength found in sobriety. It's a story of hope, growth, and the beauty of self-acceptance.

 

📚 Get Julie Solomon's book "Get What You Want: How to Go from Unseen to Unstoppable" wherever books are sold.

🎬 Stay tuned for John Sheck's new series "Blue Ridge" coming in 2024.

🎧 Listen to Julie's podcast "The Influencer Podcast" for more insights on personal branding and marketing.

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We’re amid an epidemic of anxiety.  It affects all of us, our children, our peers, our partners. Yet, what if we could reframe anxiety in a new way that helps people live in a healthy relationship with something we all experience…something it means to be human?  

Our guest, Dr. David Rosmarin, Enneagram 3w2, associate professor at Harvard Medical School,  program director at McLean Hospital, founder of the Center for Anxiety, and international expert on spirituality and mental health joins me for a much needed conversation about accepting anxiety as a natural part of life and learning to lean into it as a tool for positive change. 

In today’s episode, Dr. Rosmarin and I explore:

• What brings up anxiety for Dr. Rosmarin

• The distinction between fear, anxiety, stress and worry

• Triggers of anxiety for different Enneagram types 

We also highlight a couple of practical tools provided in Dr. Rosmarin's book, 'Thriving with Anxiety,' which offers actionable strategies for managing anxiety in everyday life.

 

In this episode, Enneagram guru Seth Abram returns to the show for an in depth conversation about Shadow Work. The shadow refers to the unconscious aspects of ourselves that we hide or deny. “Really the concept of the shadow is all about what elements in our psyche are unknown to us, what’s outside of our regular awareness [...] it’s not just what’s outside of our awareness, but it’s also what discomforts the sense of self we wish to have,” explains Seth. “Within me, it’s what is true of me that when it’s brought to my awareness, I find it super problematic. It’s threatening to me, it’s contradictory to what I profess my values are.”

Only by welcoming and integrating our shadow aspects, can we grow our definition of ourselves and become more authentic and whole. 

We’ll explore: 

• What the shadow is 

• How self-examination through the Enneagram helps with shadow work

• What each type denies to be true about themselves

Today’s discussion offers valuable insights for anyone interested in shadow work and self-discovery.  To hear the rest of our conversation with Seth where we explore practices and tools to help you with your shadow work, become a Typology Institute Member to gain access to our exclusive membership podcast and watch January’s town hall with Seth where members were able to ask Seth their questions live.

We live in a broken world and suffering is inevitable. But, what are you going to do with what you’ve gone through? Writer and storyteller, Kristen LaValley, Enneagram 5w4, offers a refreshing perspective on faith, spirituality, suffering, and the human experience. She joins me in an exploration of suffering and challenging our beliefs when they don’t hold up in crisis or darkness. 

As an Observer, Kristen explains what suffering is like for her, “I go deep inside and compartmentalize like crazy,” which can lead to detachment and broken connections.  As a five, “I feel things deeply but struggle to express them outwardly in expected ways.” This is common for Fives as they typically struggle to experience their feelings in the moment as they arise, and need time to think their way to their feelings. 

In today’s episode, we explore: 

• Why Fives compartmentalize their emotions and impact it has on their loved ones

• What to do when traditional formulas and catchphrases are insufficient in times of pain and hardship

• Finding God and experiencing His presence in the midst of our suffering

Author of the critically acclaimed book, “Even If He Doesn’t,” Kristen asks, “How can I approach God when I’m struggling to believe in His goodness?” and challenges us to relax into the knowledge that even if things don’t go our way, He is present with us through the pain and turmoils of life. 

I hope this conversation challenges you to reflect on your own beliefs and find acceptance that there is no perfect explanation for suffering.  Until next time, "May you have love, may you have joy, may you have peace, may you have healing, and may you have rest.” 

 

 

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How does your Enneagram type influence the creative process? Whether we’re in business, cooking a meal, or writing a book, we’re all content creators on some level. Each of us has the capacity to tap into our gifts and bring something new into the world. 

Today, we explore the fascinating interplay between the Enneagram and creativity with author and writing coach, Mary Adkins. This conversation shines a light on the unique hurdles and assets each personality type brings to the table in their artistic endeavors.

In this episode, we examine: 

• How Mary discovered her Enneagram type and the role it plays in her coaching

• The importance of self-awareness in the creative process

• Why ‘making a mess’ and ‘trusting the process’ is instrumental for all types

Mary's journey from Yale Law School and Duke to becoming a renowned writing coach and founder of The Book Incubator program serves as a testament to the power of understanding one's gifts and leveraging them to maximize their creative potential. 

Until next time, keep exploring the mystery of your unique personality and remember, "May you have love, may you have joy, may you have peace, may you have healing, and may you have rest.”  

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How does your past shape your present relationships? This week's episode is a treasure trove of insights that you won't want to miss!

Join us as we sit down with the insightful Ike Miller, PhD, author, pastor, and Enneagram Three, who brings a fresh perspective on how the baggage we carry from our childhood isn't all bad. In fact, it might just be the key to unlocking healthier relationships and a more authentic self.

Ike's new book, "Good Baggage," challenges the notion that all our past experiences weigh us down. Instead, he invites us to sift through our stories and find the hidden tools that can lead to personal growth and relational health.

In this episode, you'll discover:

• Ike's journey with the Enneagram and how it helped him understand his motivations and fears.

• The core fear of the Enneagram Three and how it can manifest in daily life.

• Strategies for self-differentiation and setting healthy boundaries

• The importance of authenticity in leadership and personal relationships.

• And much more!

Whether you're an Enneagram Three wrestling with image management or someone curious about how to leverage your past for a better future, this conversation is for you.

As always, we're here to support you in your journey of self-discovery and growth. If you find this episode as enlightening as we did, share it with a friend who might also benefit from Ike's wisdom.

Until next time, keep exploring the mystery of your unique personality and remember, "May you have love, may you have joy, may you have peace, may you have healing, and may you have rest.”  

 

P.S. Stay tuned for our upcoming episodes and make sure to follow us on Instagram @TypologyPodcast for daily doses of Enneagram knowledge and encouragement!

Don't forget to check out Ike's book, "Good Baggage," and if you're looking for more resources to help you on your journey, consider exploring "The Search for Significance" by Robert McGee, a book that has deeply influenced Ike's understanding of identity and value.

 

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TIMESTAMPS

(00:00:03) - Introduction to Typology Podcast

(00:00:24) - Ike Miller's New Book: Good Baggage

(00:01:21) - Reflecting on Past Events and Changes

(00:02:43) - Ike Miller's Enneagram Discovery Journey

(00:04:31) - Core Fear of Enneagram Three

(00:05:12) - Utilizing Baggage from Childhood

(00:06:06) - Threes Under Stress and Image Management

(00:07:06) - Ike Miller on Identity and Achievement

(00:08:03) - Preaching and Identity for Enneagram Threes

(00:10:19) - Celebrating Personal Progress

(00:12:10) - Moving Theological Understanding to Personal Experience

(00:13:04) - Ike's Challenges During the Pandemic

(00:14:02) - Ike and His Wife's Enneagram Dynamics

(00:15:38) - Risk Aversion and Entrepreneurship in Enneagram Types

(00:16:03) - Ike's Experience Leading a Church During COVID-19

(00:17:33) - The Importance of Authenticity in Ministry

(00:18:14) - Ike's Book and The Search for Significance

(00:19:02) - Therapy and Enneagram Threes

(00:20:11) - Ike's Motivation for Therapy and Transparency

(00:21:20) - The Challenge of Vulnerability for Enneagram Threes

(00:22:49) - The Five Whys Technique for Personal Growth

(00:24:34) - Self-Differentiation and Family Dynamics

(00:25:41) - Ike's Three Keys to Navigating Dysfunctional Families

(00:26:25) - Post-Traumatic Growth and Personal Development

(00:27:23) - Tools for Healing and Growth in Ike's Book

(00:28:04) - The Story of David and Goliath: A Metaphor for Self-Identity

(00:29:20) - Closing Remarks and Ike's Contact Information

 

This week, we are thrilled to welcome back Sissy Goff, an accomplished counselor and leading voice in parenting and child psychology. As an Enneagram 1, Sissy has served as the director of counseling at Daystar Ministries since 1993, where she has impacted countless families over decades of devoted work. She returns to discuss the connection between parental anxiety and anger and how they impact our children.

We also explore: 

• Her experience as an Enneagram 1 and how it's helped shape her role as a guide and mentor in teaching parents how best to bond and communicate with their children.
• The difference between worry and anxiety and what you can do to become a better parent for your children.

You won’t want to miss Sissy Goff’s thoughtful guidance and timeless advice. This discussion promises to be an essential listen for every parent.