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    Jimmy Tatro, Josh Allen & Tre'Davious White, Plus Bigger Than Ben Part 2

    en-usSeptember 04, 2020

    Podcast Summary

    • The Significance of Quality Sleep for AthletesQuality sleep is crucial for athletes, with Jimmy Tatro emphasizing its importance. Lou Dort's athletic yet erratic playstyle and James Harden's surprising defensive effort were discussed. The episode also touched upon bizarre officiating and Chris Paul's antics.

      The importance of quality sleep cannot be overstated, especially for professional athletes. Jimmy Tatro, a recurring guest on the podcast, was celebrated, and the Labor Day weekend was discussed, including the end of the NBA playoffs and the upcoming return of football. The podcast highlighted the performances of Lou Dort and James Harden, with the former's signature athletic but erratic playstyle and the latter's surprising defensive effort. The show also touched upon the bizarre officiating in the NBA playoffs and the antics of Chris Paul during a particular game. Overall, the episode emphasized the significance of sleep for athletes and showcased the unique personalities and performances in the world of sports.

    • NBA Playoffs: Debating the Roles of Lew Dort, Mark Jackson, and Giannis AntetokounmpoThe NBA playoffs ignite intense debates about players' abilities and team dynamics, with Lew Dort's defensive prowess contrasted against criticism of his offense, Mark Jackson's motivational tactics questioned, and doubts raised about Giannis Antetokounmpo's ability to carry the Bucks without sufficient support.

      The NBA playoffs bring out intense debates and hot takes, with fans and analysts questioning the abilities of top players and teams. During a recent discussion, Lew Dort was brought up as a player who accepts his role as a defensive specialist, despite being criticized for his offensive skills. Mark Jackson, meanwhile, was criticized for his tendency to exaggerate the desire to win among players. The conversation then shifted to the Milwaukee Bucks and their star player, Giannis Antetokounmpo, with some questioning his ability to carry the team in the playoffs and comparing him to Scottie Pippen. The consensus was that the Bucks lack the necessary supporting cast to compete against top teams, leading to speculation about Giannis potentially leaving Milwaukee. Overall, the discussion highlighted the passion and intensity surrounding the NBA playoffs and the endless debates that come with it.

    • Expectations, criticism, and controversies in sports and fandomSports and fandom involve intense emotions, debates, and surprises, from self-proclaimed titles to referee decisions and fan opinions

      Sports and fandom involve high expectations, criticism, and the occasional controversy. During the NBA playoffs, teams and players can set high standards, leading to both celebration and criticism. For instance, Giannis Antetokounmpo's self-proclaimed "king" title drew criticism but also fueled excitement. Chris Paul's influence on referee decisions is another example of the intricate dynamics between players, teams, and officials. Fans can bond over their opinions, even if they're controversial or seemingly trivial, like bashing James Harden or defending Kirk Cousins. The sports world is full of surprises, debates, and endless entertainment.

    • Making Fun of Kirk Cousins: Boundaries of Respect and HumorIt's debatable whether making fun of Kirk Cousins crosses the line into disrespect, but some find it acceptable due to his public persona and love for Creed. Cousins' football career has been impacted by his team's offensive line and could have been more successful with a better squad.

      The discussion revolved around the topic of making fun of Kirk Cousins and the boundaries of respect and humor. The speaker expressed his belief that it's acceptable to make fun of Cousins, even if some may find it disrespectful. He also shared an appreciation for Cousins' love of the band Creed and his attempt to hire them for a private concert. The conversation also touched upon Cousins' football career and the impact of his team's offensive line on his performance. The speaker made a comparison between Cousins and Mitch Trubisky, and they both agreed that Cousins could have succeeded with a better team. The discussion ended with a mention of Leonard Fournette joining the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the speaker's disappointment that he didn't end up on the Chicago Bears. Overall, the conversation showcased a lighthearted banter between two individuals sharing their opinions on sports and pop culture.

    • Controversial Figures in Sports: Fournette and GronkFournette's inconsistency at the goal line and Gronk's potential super team return were discussed, along with a personal story about dealing with a sick pet.

      Leonard Fournette and Gronk are two controversial figures in their respective sports, with Fournette being a frustrating goal-line runner and Gronk potentially joining a super team despite his recent injury. The discussion also touched upon Fournette's history of falling short at the goal line and Gronk's potential return to the football field. Additionally, a segment was dedicated to sharing a personal story about dealing with a sick pet and the unexpected challenges it brought. Overall, the conversation was a mix of sports analysis, light-hearted banter, and a touch of reality.

    • Embracing Consistent 'Firefests' for Joy and ComfortFind joy and comfort in consistent elements of life, like favorite brands, experiences, or traditions, to bring happiness and ease.

      The speaker is expressing their excitement and attachment to certain comforting and consistent elements in their life, which they refer to as their "Firefests." These include specific brands of shoes, a beloved teddy bear nanny cam, and college football. Despite some challenges, such as leaving their dog alone for the first time or feeling uninterested in Madden NFL codes, they find solace and joy in these consistent aspects of their life. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of finding and embracing products or experiences that bring happiness and ease.

    • Unexpected experiences and adaptabilityLife's unexpected experiences, whether funny or painful, require adaptability and resilience to move on

      Life can be full of unexpected experiences, both good and bad. Billy shared two such experiences, one involving his dog and horse chestnuts, and the other involving a mislabeled wipe. While the first experience resulted in a minor mishap, the second led to a painful mistake. Despite these incidents, Billy managed to find humor in the situations and move on. In another segment, Jimmy Tatro, a recurring guest on the show, discussed the ongoing development of their project "Boner Dogs" with the involvement of renowned writer Eric Roth. Overall, the conversation highlighted the importance of adaptability and resilience in navigating life's twists and turns.

    • Discussing the future of 'Boner Dogs' and other projectsDespite challenges from COVID-19, the speakers remain optimistic about their future projects, including 'Boner Dogs,' and the importance of animated projects during this time.

      The speakers have been discussing their experiences in the entertainment industry, specifically their involvement in a potential animated project called "Boner Dogs." They believe that the project will come to fruition within the next five years and express their excitement about being potentially involved in it. They also discuss the challenges of working remotely during the COVID-19 pandemic and the importance of animated projects during this time. Additionally, they mention their ongoing work on other projects, such as "Real Bros Simi Valley," and the unexpected pause due to one of them contracting COVID-19 early on in the pandemic. Despite the challenges, they remain optimistic about their future projects and the opportunities in the industry.

    • Connecting with Nature's ExperiencesThe speaker cherishes experiences in nature, acknowledges challenges, and values sustainability.

      The speaker values experiences that connect them to nature, whether it's through road trips in an RV or immersing themselves in the beauty of national parks. However, they acknowledge the challenges that come with such experiences, such as the need for planning and potential risks like encounters with wildlife. The speaker also expressed a desire to live more sustainably, as seen in their attempt to house a large bee population for honey production. Despite the challenges, the speaker finds joy and fulfillment in these experiences, often comparing them to commercials or desirable lifestyles. The speaker's germaphobic tendencies and fear of cities add to their appreciation for the outdoors and the simplicity of nature.

    • Stay focused on the value and benefitsPersevere and adapt, even when faced with challenges or unexpected circumstances, to unlock value and benefits.

      Even when faced with seemingly insurmountable challenges or unexpected circumstances, it's important to stay focused on the value and benefits that something can bring, rather than giving in to pressure to abandon it. The speaker's experience with a large beehive is a metaphor for this idea. Despite the size and perceived problems with the hive, the speaker saw the value in keeping it and even salvaged the honey. However, it's also important to be aware of potential risks, as the honey from the hive may not have been safe to consume due to the specific breed of bees. Overall, this story highlights the importance of perseverance and a willingness to learn and adapt in the face of uncertainty.

    • Finding value in unexpected experiencesMaintain a positive attitude during unexpected changes or limited screen time, learn and grow, and stay focused on long-term goals.

      Even when faced with unexpected changes or limited screen time in high-profile projects, an actor can maintain a positive attitude and find value in the experience. Pierce, in this conversation, shared how he was happy to be part of Judd Apatow's movie, even if he didn't get as much screen time as he anticipated. He saw it as an opportunity to learn and grow, and even discovered a deeper allegory for his own career progression. Additionally, Pierce acknowledged the importance of patience and persistence in the entertainment industry, as success often doesn't come overnight. He encouraged enjoying the process and staying focused on the long-term goals, even when faced with setbacks or frustrations.

    • Success on YouTube and FacebookA show's success shouldn't be determined by its broadcast platform, but rather by its ability to resonate with and entertain audiences. Being on multiple platforms can help reach a larger audience.

      The success of a creative project, such as a YouTube show, doesn't necessarily depend on being broadcast on traditional television networks. The speaker shared his experience of creating a show for his YouTube channel, which was picked up by Facebook without much deliberation about where it would live. The show became a massive success on Facebook, despite not being considered "legitimate" by some due to its platform. The speaker emphasized that the success of a show should not be measured solely by where it is broadcast, but rather by its ability to resonate with and entertain audiences. He also noted that network executives may be slower to recognize the potential of content on platforms like Facebook and YouTube, but that being on multiple platforms can help reach a larger audience. The speaker's show, "Real Bros," is an example of a cult classic that gained popularity through social media and memes, despite not being on traditional television.

    • Different Types of Cali Bros and Personal StoriesCali bros come in various forms, each with unique characteristics. Personal experiences can shape self-perception, with height and appearance sometimes playing a role in perceived alpha status.

      There are various types of bros in California, each with distinct characteristics. These include Valley Bros, NorCal Bros, Malibu Bros, and even inland bros. Dallas Braden, a Cali bro from Stockton, is an example of an intimidating figure with a solid name. During a conversation, personal anecdotes about high school basketball statistics were shared, revealing a time when one person was perceived as an alpha due to his height and appearance, while another felt underestimated. The discussion also touched upon the idea of underselling and overdelivering, as seen in Adam Sandler's acting style. Overall, the conversation highlighted the diversity of Cali bros and the importance of self-perception.

    • Societal expectations and individual behaviorsSocietal norms can influence individuals to exhibit unusual behaviors, even in everyday situations. For instance, soccer players showing off their abs and shaved bodies, or trying to join the Mile High Club on a plane.

      Societal expectations and norms can lead individuals to engage in unusual or unexpected behaviors, even in mundane situations. The speaker shared his observation about soccer players and their tendency to reveal their abs and shaved bodies, which he found uncomfortable and unnecessary. He also shared an anecdote about a YouTube video he was in, which went viral, and how he tried to remove it from IMDB due to its explicit title. The conversation then shifted to the topic of the Mile High Club and the speaker's fear of getting caught having sex on a plane. He also expressed his die-hard loyalty to the Lakers basketball team and his favorite player, Kobe Bryant, despite LeBron James' potential achievements. Overall, the conversation highlighted the complexity of societal norms and individual behaviors, and how they can intersect in unexpected ways.

    • Lakers vs Clippers Rivalry: Fan Opinions and BiasesFan opinions towards the Lakers and Clippers are influenced by past experiences, personal biases, and team achievements. Dwight Howard and LeBron James are subjects of intense debate among fans.

      Despite the intense rivalry between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Clippers, some fans, especially those of the Lakers, hold strong opinions about the teams and their players. These opinions can be influenced by past experiences and personal biases. For instance, some fans have mixed feelings about Dwight Howard due to his previous performance with the team. Similarly, there is a deep-rooted dislike for LeBron James among some fans, stemming from his decision to join the Miami Heat and his perceived arrogance. However, others have come to appreciate and respect him, especially after his return to the Cavs and his subsequent move to the Lakers. The ongoing debate about which team truly represents Los Angeles and the significance of championship titles won in the bubble further highlights the intensity of these fanbase rivalries.

    • Speaker's emotional connection to Kobe BryantThe speaker shares his deep connection to Kobe Bryant and the profound impact of his death on him, highlighting the emotional power of sports.

      Despite the playful banter and jokes about basketball greatness, the speaker holds Michael Jordan in high regard as the best basketball player of all time. However, the conversation took a more emotional turn when the speaker shared his deep connection to Kobe Bryant and the profound impact of his death on him. Sports can evoke strong emotions and even bring people to tears. The speaker's experience of crying, dancing, and laughing in quick succession during a day was described as "a hell of a day." The conversation also revealed the speaker's admiration for Jimmy Kimmel and his comedy show.

    • Billy's Unique Experiences and PassionsBilly, an outsider with a strong personality and unique ideas, shared his impressive strength training abilities, passion for a reality TV show, and interest in joining the podcast. He also discussed his app idea and stories from the Blue Mountain State film set.

      Billy, a character from the podcast, is an enthusiastic and creative individual with unique ideas and experiences. He shared his impressive strength training abilities and his passion for a reality TV show he was a part of, which involved guessing who is on steroids. Billy also expressed his interest in joining the podcast and shared his app idea, which is similar to Waze but for crowdsourcing information on crowded bars and their bouncers. The dynamic of Billy as an outsider fitting in well on the Blue Mountain State film set was also discussed, with Billy sharing some eventful stories from the experience. Billy's use of the word "sick" to describe his experiences and the sets of shows he's been a part of highlights his excitement and enthusiasm. Overall, Billy is a lively and engaging character with a strong personality and a knack for coming up with interesting ideas.

    • Speakers share their reactions to COVID-19 impactJimmy Tatra discusses his experience with the virus, Josh Allen and Tre'Davious White discuss football season preparation and the challenges of COVID-19

      The speakers in this discussion had strong reactions to the impact of COVID-19. Jimmy Tatra shared his experience of getting the virus and the lack of taste and smell, which he found annoying. He also mentioned the Gal Gadot "Imagine" video that went viral, which made him realize the severity of the situation. Josh Allen and Tre'Davious White discussed their preparation for the football season and trending topics, but also acknowledged the challenges of COVID-19. Josh Allen mentioned the importance of hard work and having players to throw to, while Tre'Davious White shared his experience of trying to intercept passes in practice but not wanting to risk injury. Overall, the speakers highlighted the significant impact of COVID-19 on their personal and professional lives.

    • The Impact of Coaches on TeamsCoaches can provide motivation and renewed energy during challenging times, while virtual communities offer connection and support in times of isolation.

      The energy and connection brought by a coach can significantly impact a team, even during challenging moments. This was evident in the experiences shared by Trey and Josh, who spoke about the transformative impact of Coach O on their team at LSU. Despite facing setbacks like false starts and losses, the players found motivation and renewed energy under Coach O's leadership. Additionally, the power of virtual communities, like the NCAA 14 online gaming community, can provide a source of connection and support during times of isolation and uncertainty.

    • Friendly competition between Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes to settle passing abilitiesJosh Allen and Patrick Mahomes are set to compete in a throw-off event, with the winner getting to switch contracts. Allen is willing to participate, and his passing ability is estimated to be over 80 yards. The NFL season without fans is expected to benefit offenses due to improved communication at the line of scrimmage.

      Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes are engaged in a friendly competition regarding their passing abilities, and there's a plan to settle it through a throw-off event during the upcoming NFL game between their teams. The winner will get to switch contracts, and Josh Allen expressed his willingness to participate despite the potential consequences. The discussion also touched on Allen's passing capabilities, with estimates suggesting he can throw the ball over 80 yards. Additionally, the impact of playing without fans in the NFL season was discussed, with the consensus being that it would benefit offenses due to the increased ability to communicate at the line of scrimmage.

    • Effective communication between opposing offenses during gamesEffective communication between opposing offenses can make it harder for defenses to perform, particularly during home games, and is crucial on third downs.

      The ability of opposing offenses to communicate effectively with each other during games, particularly at home, can significantly impact the defensive performance of a team. This was a topic of discussion between Trey and Josh, with Trey expressing his concerns about the added challenge of dealing with this factor during home games. The ability to communicate effectively on third downs, which is a crucial part of driving a successful offense, can make it even more difficult for defenses to keep up. Despite the challenges, Trey expressed his readiness to compete and his determination not to be embarrassed on the field. The conversation also touched on the importance of passion and love for the game, as well as the respect earned by players who make the decision to retire, even if it means leaving their teammates at halftime.

    • Reflecting on Past Experiences and Acknowledging MistakesThe team's cornerback showed resilience after stepping in unexpectedly and became a trendsetter. The team should reconsider using the go route to the fullback as a surprise play, as it may now go unnoticed due to previous mistakes.

      Despite facing challenges and making mistakes, the team's cornerback, who had to step in unexpectedly, showed resilience and became a trendsetter. Another important takeaway is that the team should reconsider using the go route to the fullback as a surprise play, as it was effective in the past but may now go unnoticed due to previous mistakes. Additionally, there were discussions about past incidents, including a famous altercation with a well-known player, and the team's potential influence on a player's drafting. However, it was acknowledged that the player would have been drafted high regardless, and the team jokingly claimed they could have drafted him again if given the chance. Overall, the team reflected on past experiences, acknowledged mistakes, and looked forward to the upcoming season with a focus on improvement.

    • Maintaining good throwing mechanics is key for quarterback successStay committed to proper technique, like keeping elbow higher than shoulder, for quarterback success. Dedication and hard work pay off, even if it means sacrificing a strong arm.

      Maintaining good throwing mechanics is crucial for a quarterback's success, even if that means avoiding the comforts of a strong arm. Billy O'Brien emphasized the importance of keeping the elbow higher than the shoulder to prevent lazy mechanics, comparing it to the quarterback's college and combine days. While some may view this as a criticism, with Philip Rivers as an example of a successful quarterback with a higher elbow, the overall message is to stay focused and committed to proper technique. Additionally, Trey Lance shared his unique connection to Buffalo, as April 27th is both the day he was drafted and the day known as "Trey Day" in Shreveport, Louisiana. Lastly, the conversation touched on the importance of supporting each other and finding joy in the little things, like favorite foods and merchandise. Overall, the conversation highlighted the importance of dedication, hard work, and camaraderie in the journey towards success.

    • Bills excited for future with young core and playoff appearancesThe Bills value their draft picks and look forward to more prime time games, focusing on improvement and pushing each other to be their best.

      The Buffalo Bills, with their young core nucleus and recent playoff appearances, are dedicated to continuing their success and are excited for the future. The team values their draft picks and the potential they bring, even if it means being mediocre in the eyes of analytics. The Bills players, including Josh Allen and Tredavious White, are looking forward to more prime time games and the challenges they bring. The team's focus is on improvement and pushing each other to be their best. Additionally, Peloton, with its challenging workouts and variety of classes, is a great option for those looking to power on their fitness routine during the spring season.

    • Ben Roethlisberger's Documentary: A Personal Look at His Injuries and ToughnessBen Roethlisberger's documentary offers a unique perspective on his career, revealing numerous injuries and doctor visits, while also highlighting his determination to continue playing football.

      Ben Roethlisberger used his time away from football due to injury to create a documentary detailing his experiences and injuries throughout his career. The documentary includes selfie videos and interviews with medical professionals, who often reaffirm Ben's toughness. The editing style reinforces Ben's narrative, and the doctor's comments seem to be influenced by leading questions from the documentary's producers. The documentary also reveals that Ben has had numerous injuries and visits to doctors throughout his career, and he even filmed himself dealing with a cold while recovering from an elbow injury. The documentary's tone is reminiscent of inspirational sports stories, and Ben's determination to continue playing football despite his injuries is a central theme. The documentary provides an intimate look into Ben's life and his resilience, making it an engaging and compelling watch.

    • An Intimate Look into Ben Roethlisberger's Life: Documentary Series Promises Never-Seen Footage and Personal InsightsBen Roethlisberger's upcoming documentary series offers a unique glimpse into his life, featuring never-before-seen footage and personal insights, with his wife playing a prominent role.

      Ben Roethlisberger's upcoming documentary series promises an intimate look into his life, including his injury and personal experiences. Roethlisberger shared his excitement about the upcoming release, drawing comparisons to a lion's reintroduction to the wild and the anticipation of football returning. The documentary is expected to include never-before-seen footage and insights, with his wife playing a prominent role. There were playful and humorous exchanges during the conversation, touching on topics like Red Pandas, Madden codes, and the return of football. Despite some lighthearted banter, the group remained focused on the upcoming documentary and the excitement it is generating.

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    Hank had a night of lifetime going to Tom Brady's retirement ceremony and being mentioned in the speech while the Celtics went up 3-0 in the NBA Finals (00:00:00-00:20:06). Luka got absolutely torched by Windy and it was well deserved after his pathetic second half on Wednesday Night (00:20:06-00:37:24). US Open and a spirited debate about Scottie Scheffler's haircut (00:37:24-00:49:56). Trevor Lawrence got paid (00:49:56-00:53:48). Oilers are down 3-0 and more details about Danny Hurley turning down the Lakers (00:53:48-01:11:38). Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson join us in studio to talk about their careers in the NBA, their podcast success, having too many crazy people on one team, coaching in the NBA and tons more (01:11:38-02:13:53). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (02:13:53-02:31:00).


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