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    Joe Perticone and Mona Charen: Trusting the Chronic Liar over the Pastor

    en-usAugust 21, 2023
    Why did Donald Trump skip the debates?
    How does Trump's absence affect other candidates?
    What is Vivek Ramaswamy's role in the debates?
    How do voters feel about Trump's indictments?
    What does Trump's relationship with Putin imply?

    Podcast Summary

    • Trump Skips Debates, Focuses on Campaign TrailTrump's decision to skip debates increases scrutiny on other candidates and highlights his disregard for the electoral process, while maintaining his outsider image.

      Donald Trump's decision to skip the debates should come as no surprise, as he currently holds a commanding lead in the polls and sees no need to engage in confrontations with his rivals. The Republican frontrunner's absence from the debates will likely result in increased scrutiny on other candidates, particularly Vivek Ramaswamy, who is gaining traction in the race. However, given Trump's history of making provisional statements, it's important to remember that his decision could change if the dynamics of the race shift. Regardless, Trump's actions demonstrate his disregard for the electoral process and his contempt for engaging in substantive policy discussions with his opponents. Ultimately, this development plays into Trump's strategy of portraying himself as the outsider and painting his opponents as part of the political establishment.

    • A divided Republican Party strengthens Trump's positionDespite multiple indictments, Trump maintains a strong base within the GOP due to lack of clear alternatives and his cult-like following.

      The political landscape is surreal as we witness a twice impeached and four-time indicted former president, Donald Trump, being arraigned, while many perceive it as a political asset for him. This bifurcation of the Republican Party between those deeply entrenched in the Trump cult and the rest is strengthening Trump's position within the GOP. The lack of a clear alternative to Trump, as DeSantis' campaign falters, further solidifies his base. During reporting at the Iowa State Fair, it was clear that Vivek Ramaswamy was generating the most buzz among non-Trump candidates due to his strong speaking abilities. Despite Trump's lead in polls, there is interest in other candidates, and the mood among voters regarding the multiple indictments varies, with some expressing concern but others remaining steadfast in their support for Trump.

    • Republican Party's shift from values to acceptance of criminal behaviorSome Republicans support Trump despite allegations, demonstrating a shift in party values towards accepting criminal behavior from leaders, while voters make excuses and support controversial candidates.

      Despite the allegations against Donald Trump, there are committed Republicans who will still vote for him due to their agreement with his policies, demonstrating a deep-rooted cynicism within the party. This mindset, according to the speaker, has transformed the Republican Party from one that valued character to one that accepts criminal behavior from its leaders. Furthermore, in polling, while some voters may acknowledge Trump's wrongdoings, they often make excuses for him and believe that others have done the same. The speaker expresses despair over the judgment of voters, as shown by the rising support for candidates like Vivek Ramaswami, who have made controversial statements and suggestions, such as giving AR-15s to every Taiwan citizen and suing the Justice Department for indicting Trump. The voters seem to be drawn to slick, fast-talking, and snake oil selling candidates rather than fine, upstanding politicians. The speaker laments the failure of the opinion shaping class, elected Republicans, and media to provide guidance and leadership to voters, allowing Trump to continue to gain support.

    • The 2024 Republican Primary: Entertainment Over SubstanceDespite controversy, candidates like Vivek Ramaswamy are gaining support due to their engaging personalities, while Trump's cult of personality remains strong among Iowa fairgoers, challenging democratic accountability and the rule of law.

      The 2024 Republican primary is seeing a dominance of entertainment over substance, with candidates like Vivek Ramaswamy being seen as engaging and innovative, even if their positions align with controversial figures like Trump. The Iowa fairgoers have shown a strong devotion to Trump, trusting him more than their own friends and family, religious figures, and even conservative media figures. This devotion, despite Trump's history of lies and fraudulent behavior, highlights the power of the "cult of personality" within the Republican Party. The missed opportunity for accountability after the January 6th insurrection, when Mitch McConnell failed to impeach Trump, further underscores the challenges of defending democracy and upholding the rule of law in a liberal constitutional republic.

    • Political leaders prioritizing short-term wins and loyalty to TrumpPoliticians like McConnell and DeSantis have put short-term gains and loyalty to Trump above principle and conservative values, leading to a misunderstanding of the base's priorities and a cult-like following.

      Political leaders like Mitch McConnell and Ron DeSantis have prioritized short-term wins and loyalty to former President Trump over principle and conservative values, leading to a cult-like following and a misunderstanding of the base's priorities. McConnell's actions, such as blocking Merrick Garland's Supreme Court nomination, were all part of a gamble to secure long-term results. DeSantis, on the other hand, tried to win over the base by constantly kissing Trump's rear end and delaying his presidential announcement to rack up conservative victories. However, the base's loyalty to Trump remains unwavering, and being to the right or left of him doesn't matter. DeSantis' experience in Iowa, where he received mixed responses to his Trump critique, highlights the challenge of appealing to the base while also staying true to conservative values.

    • Republican event discusses Trump's loss and DeSantis's missed opportunitySome saw Trump's loss as a missed chance for DeSantis to present himself as an alternative, but opinions varied on his campaigning skills and ability to connect with diverse voter bases.

      The 2020 election loss of Donald Trump and the potential missed opportunity for Ron DeSantis to present himself as a viable alternative were key topics discussed at a recent Republican event. While some attendees appreciated the candid assessment of Trump's loss, others bristled at the criticism. Regarding DeSantis, some believed he missed an opportunity to appeal to a broader swath of the Republican Party after the 2022 elections, rather than trying to be a carbon copy of Trump. Others argued that DeSantis's campaigning skills were lacking, making it difficult for him to connect with voters outside of Florida, despite his successes in that state. The disconnect between his performance on the presidential stage and in Florida raises questions about the unique challenges of campaigning beyond one's home state and the importance of adapting to diverse voter bases.

    • Florida Governor DeSantis' success in COVID response and personal relationship with Putin vs Trump's beliefs about international influenceDeSantis' COVID success and Putin relationship may help him locally, but not nationally. Trump's belief in personal influence over Putin and avoidance of conflict undermine his international claims.

      DeSantis' success in Florida's COVID response and his ability to create a bubble around himself may have helped him in the short term, but it doesn't translate well to the national stage. Meanwhile, Trump continues to believe in his influence over Putin, seeing their relationship as personal rather than political. This belief, which seems delusional to many, is shared by millions of Americans. Despite Trump's claims of keeping the country out of wars, his prioritization of avoiding conflict and being seen as unthreatening might not deter opponents, and his biddability to praise from foreign leaders further undermines his claims of international influence. These beliefs, while held strongly by both men, are questionable in reality.

    • Trump's Special Relationship with Putin and GOP LoyaltyDespite Putin's criminal actions and Trump's potential conviction, many Republicans may still vote for Trump due to party loyalty, creating a complex situation for the upcoming election.

      The relationship between former President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin is seen as special by Trump, despite Putin being a war criminal and the election of Trump being considered one of Putin's greatest triumphs. Trump's supporters, like Bill Cassidy, acknowledge Trump's potential criminal behavior but still plan to vote for him due to party loyalty. This mentality, known as the "Bill Barr mentality," prioritizes party over country. Despite Trump's past actions and potential conviction, many Republicans may still vote for him, creating a complex and potentially problematic situation for the upcoming election.

    • Political Divide: Keeping Trump Out vs. Biden's ChallengesPresident Biden faces challenges with investigations into his son Hunter and former President Trump, as well as concerns about his age, which could impact his reelection campaign. Acknowledging and addressing potential vulnerabilities is crucial for maintaining public trust.

      The political landscape is deeply divided, with some Republicans prioritizing the importance of keeping Trump out of the presidency, while others focus on the potential dangers of a second term for President Biden. The discussion highlighted the challenges President Biden faces in addressing issues surrounding his son Hunter Biden, investigations into former President Trump, and his age. While Biden has not been proven to have committed any criminality or impeachable offenses, the lingering cloud of controversy surrounding his son is damaging and could impact his reelection campaign. The longer Biden waits to address these issues, the worse they may become. It's crucial for politicians to understand the importance of acknowledging and addressing potential vulnerabilities to maintain public trust and confidence.

    • Biden's Challenges: Hunter Biden and InflationBiden faces challenges over Hunter Biden investigations and inflation, but it's crucial to distinguish between investigations and allegations. He must address inflation publicly and avoid solely Republican-pleasing moves.

      President Joe Biden faces challenges in his reelection bid, including addressing the ongoing controversy surrounding his son Hunter Biden and dealing with inflation. While Hunter Biden's actions may be a political liability, it's essential to distinguish between the investigations into his activities and the allegations against Trump. Regarding Biden's age, despite concerns, he is not senile, and actuarial data suggests that people in their 70s, like Biden and Trump, tend to have good life expectancies. Another key point is that Biden needs to address inflation publicly and show progress, while avoiding making moves solely to appease Republicans. The media's coverage of the 2024 election as a "scandal election" for both Biden and Trump can be misleading, as the investigations into their families and actions are not equivalent.

    • Addressing ageism for President BidenBiden's age presents challenges but also advantages, addressing ageism requires acknowledging benefits and not playing victim, Democratic party unlikely to deny nomination to sitting VP, convincing voters of advantages over perception of invisibility may be difficult.

      Despite President Joe Biden's age, his overall health, education, personal habits, and historical precedent suggest that he is likely to continue living and serving beyond his current term. The ageism that may arise from his advanced age can be addressed by leaning into the advantages of aging, such as greater wisdom and emotional control, rather than playing the victim card. The Democratic party is also unlikely to deny a sitting vice president, especially a woman of color, the nomination. However, it may be challenging to convince voters who overlook older candidates that the advantages of age outweigh the perception of invisibility. Ultimately, Biden must find a way to address ageism politically without appearing defensive or dismissive.

    • Acknowledging and addressing pressing issuesThe Bulwark podcast emphasizes the significance of staying informed and engaged in discussions on current events and issues, and the importance of acknowledging and addressing pressing matters.

      During this episode of The Bulwark podcast, the panel, which included Joe Perdicone and Mona Charron, acknowledged the importance of addressing pressing issues. Charley Sykes, the host, expressed his gratitude for their participation in the first post-weekend podcast. They discussed various topics, and the listeners were promised Will's presence in the following episode. Overall, the conversation emphasized the significance of acknowledging and addressing issues, and the importance of staying informed and engaged. The Bulwark podcast continues to provide insightful discussions on current events and issues, and listeners can look forward to more thought-provoking conversations in the future.

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