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    Jonathan Haidt: Why Social Media Has Caused a Collapse in Mental Health & #1 Way to Solve Your Anxiety

    enJune 24, 2024

    Podcast Summary

    • Global mental health crisis among young peopleSince 2013, young people in developed countries have been experiencing a mental health crisis, with social media use being a significant contributing factor, according to evidence and testimonies from various sources

      We are witnessing a global mental health crisis among young people, particularly in developed countries, that began around 2013. This crisis is different from previous generations as it's not just a correlation with the shift from flip phones to smartphones, but there's evidence of causation. Young people themselves are expressing their feelings of addiction and being trapped by social media. Despite this, some scholars and academics are still debating the issue, viewing it as just another moral panic. However, the evidence, including eyewitness testimony from parents, teachers, and young people themselves, suggests that social media is having a significant negative impact on mental health. It's important for us to recognize this issue and take steps to promote healthier digital habits for the next generation.

    • Social media and middle school childrenThe potential harms of social media use for middle school children, such as anxiety and depression, outweigh any benefits, and limiting use and raising the minimum age for accounts could help mitigate risks. Encouraging children to face fears and providing exposure opportunities can help overcome anxiety rather than dwelling on emotions.

      While social media has benefits for adults, it may cause harm for middle school children during early puberty. The brains of these children are particularly vulnerable, and the potential harms of social media use, such as anxiety and depression, outweigh any benefits. The debate among researchers continues, but the evidence suggests that limiting social media use for middle school children and raising the minimum age for social media accounts could help mitigate these risks. Additionally, it's important to recognize the implications of anxiety and its long-term effects on children. Anxiety is a natural response to threats, but chronic stress and high levels of cortisol can lead to health problems. Encouraging children to face their fears and providing opportunities for exposure can help them overcome anxiety, rather than dwelling on their emotions or labeling them constantly.

    • Childhood development and playBalanced emotional expression and adversity during childhood are essential for healthy development, while overprotection and excessive bullying should be avoided. Play is crucial for brain training and social development, but the decline of free play has negatively impacted children's growth.

      Children need a balance of emotional expression and adversity to develop properly. Overprotecting them from all negative emotions and experiences can hinder their ability to form healthy relationships and handle life's challenges. On the other hand, excessive bullying and insensitivity towards children's emotions should be addressed. The importance of play in childhood cannot be overstated, as it is a mammalian universal that helps train the brain and promotes social development. The decline of free play and independent activity in the 1990s due to safety concerns and increased screen time has negatively impacted children's physical, emotional, and social growth. To address the mental health crisis, we need to prioritize children's playtime and reduce adult intervention in their emotional lives.

    • Technology and Boy's DevelopmentExcessive technology use among boys leads to loss of essential experiences, impacting their social skills, resilience, and ability to form relationships, with potential long-term societal consequences

      The increasing use of technology, particularly among boys, is leading to a significant loss of essential experiences for their development into men. This loss includes opportunities for physical play, social interaction, and the acquisition of skills and virtues. Boys are spending more time on video games and pornography, which are becoming increasingly sophisticated and satisfying, making it difficult for them to engage in real-world activities. The consequences of this trend are alarming, with many boys showing signs of undeveloped social skills, lack of resilience, and difficulty forming relationships. The future implications are concerning, as these boys may struggle to make meaningful contributions to society and may continue to rely on technology for fulfillment. It's crucial that we recognize the importance of providing boys with opportunities for play, mentoring, and real-world experiences to help them grow into healthy, well-rounded adults.

    • Children's exposure to technology during childhoodDelaying children's exposure to technology until they're older can contribute to better mental health outcomes, while early exposure during puberty may lead to negative effects like depression and anxiety.

      The age at which children are introduced to technology, particularly smartphones and social media, significantly impacts their mental health. According to the discussion, if children don't get these devices until they're older, their mental health is generally fine. However, if they're exposed to them during puberty or earlier, they may experience negative effects, such as depression and anxiety. The speaker suggests that protecting childhood and allowing children to mature before introducing them to technology can help mitigate these risks. Additionally, the podcast industry offers various shows that aim to bring joy and positivity into people's lives, providing a daily dose of happiness and inspiration.

    • Digital age impact on childhood normsThe digital age is accelerating the pace of norm change, putting pressure on parents to allow young children to have smartphones. However, a movement of concerned parents is pushing back, advocating for phone-free childhoods and educating themselves about technology's mental health impacts.

      The digital age has accelerated the pace of norm change, allowing ideas and memes to spread rapidly around the world. This is putting pressure on parents to adapt quickly to new norms, such as allowing children to have smartphones at young ages. However, there is a growing movement of parents who are concerned about the impact of technology on childhood and are looking for ways to push back against this trend. This movement is gaining momentum, with parents in the UK starting a "smartphone-free childhood" revolution. Parents around the world can join this movement by starting conversations with other parents, advocating for phone-free schools, and educating themselves about the mental health impacts of technology use on children. By working together, we can make a difference and ensure that children are able to experience the joys of childhood without the constant distraction of technology.

    • Impact of Social Media on Girls' Mental HealthGirls are more negatively affected by social media use due to constant comparison, relational aggression, and sexual predation. Parents can limit their children's social media use and promote healthier alternatives through organizations like anxiousgeneration.com, smartphonefreeschools.org, and smartphone-free schools movement.org.

      Social media use, particularly among girls, has a more significant impact on their mental health compared to boys. This is due to the nature of social media platforms and the psychological motivations of girls, who are more inclined towards communion and social connection. The constant social comparison, relational aggression, and sexual predation on social media platforms are more detrimental to girls than boys. Organizations like anxiousgeneration.com, smartphonefreeschools.org, and smartphone-free schools movement.org provide resources for parents to help limit their children's social media use and promote healthier alternatives. Parents are encouraged to join these movements and start their own initiatives to protect their children's mental health.

    • Social media safety for childrenStricter age and identity verification systems are needed on social media platforms to protect children from sextortion rings, anonymous strangers, and age inappropriate content. Raising the minimum age for social media use and holding companies accountable for underage use can also help mitigate risks.

      The safety and wellbeing of children in the digital age is a significant concern, with social media platforms posing unique risks such as sextortion rings, anonymous strangers, and age inappropriate content. The solution proposed is the implementation of stricter age and identity verification systems on social media platforms to protect children from these threats. The speaker emphasized that this is especially important given the increasing prevalence and impact of online activities on children's lives. Additionally, they suggested that raising the minimum age for social media use and holding companies accountable for underage use could help mitigate these risks. Overall, the conversation highlighted the need for greater awareness and action to ensure the safety and wellbeing of children in the digital age.

    • Technology and SpiritualityAn overreliance on technology can hinder spiritual growth by promoting constant distraction, self-focus, and disconnection from deeper meaning and purpose

      The shift in society's focus from physical structures like churches and government buildings to tech companies and financial institutions has led to a decrease in spiritual elevation for many individuals. This is particularly relevant in the context of the millennial generation, who have been praised for their productivity but have also created companies that contribute to distractions and constant connectivity. Ancient wisdom, as collected and studied by Jonathan Haidt, offers insights into how to live a more spiritually fulfilling life, such as practicing moral elevation, making things sacred, and transcending self-interest. However, a phone-based life, which is the opposite of these ancient insights, keeps us indoors, distracted, and focused on ourselves rather than on higher motives or connecting with others. This constant demand for attention and self-promotion can lead to a lack of spiritual progress and a disconnection from deeper meaning and purpose.

    • Impact of Technology and Media on Mental HealthUnderstand the power of attention, limit screen time, prioritize human connections and nature, and create with positive intention to promote mental health and well-being.

      Our relationship with technology and media has a profound impact on our mental health and well-being. The creator's flaws are reflected in the things we create, including manipulative AI and dark content. To combat this, we need to understand the power of our attention and take control, limit our screen time, and prioritize real human connections and time in nature. Additionally, having a positive intention and creating something that benefits others is essential for avoiding unintended negative consequences. The rapid changes in technology and the impact on our lives became more apparent during the COVID-19 pandemic, and now is the time to re-humanize and re-spiritualize our lives.

    • Social Media and Human AttentionSocial media companies profit from selling human attention to advertisers, leading to an unprecedented drain on society's attention, causing harm without adequate regulation or responsibility. Long-term thinking and trying new experiences are essential for personal growth.

      While businesses generally create value for society by meeting people's needs, social media platforms present a unique challenge as the customers are actually the product being sold to advertisers. This results in an unprecedented drain on human attention, with many people spending hours daily on these platforms despite wishing they didn't exist. This situation is a significant issue in our society, with social media companies among the largest and richest entities on Earth, causing harm without adequate regulation or responsibility. A piece of advice from the conversation is that long-term thinking is essential when considering work, as not every job will be enjoyable or socially valuable in the moment but could lead to valuable skills and experiences in the future. Additionally, the guest expressed the importance of trying new experiences and being open to them, even if they are unconventional or uncomfortable.

    • Actionable solutions, Mindfulness, LearningDuring the podcast, the speakers emphasized the importance of tackling global issues with tangible solutions, being mindful of technology's impact, and continuous learning.

      During the podcast discussion, there was a shared appreciation for tangible solutions to global issues, rather than fear-based arguments. The speakers expressed optimism that these problems could be solved within a year or two with collective effort. They also emphasized the importance of being mindful of the impact of technology on children and relationships. The podcast hosts, Molly and Matt, invited listeners to join them in exploring various aspects of adulting through their podcast, "Grow Up Stuff How to Adult." Additionally, fans of the Shonda Land series "Bridgerton" were encouraged to listen to the official podcast for a deeper exploration of the show. Lastly, "Stories for Kids by Lingo Kids" was introduced as an educational and interactive podcast for children to learn while having fun. Overall, the podcast episode emphasized the importance of actionable solutions, mindfulness, and learning.

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    Today, let's welcome Charles Leclerc. Charles is Formula One racing driver who competes for Scuderia Ferrari in the FIA Formula One World Championship. Charles gained attention for his impressive performances in junior categories, winning titles in series such as GP3 Series and FIA Formula 2 Championship. He made his Formula One debut with Alfa Romeo Sauber F1 Team in 2018 before joining Ferrari as their lead driver in 2019.

    Charles offers a behind-the-scenes glimpse into the life of a professional race car driver. He narrates through the twists and turns of the race track, uncovering the passion, dedication, and relentless drive that propel them forward. And the secrets behind preparing and training for the race, with sleep emerging as the ultimate priority for peak performance.

    Jay and Charles talk about the invaluable lessons learned from mistakes, emphasizing the importance of humility, gratitude, and resilience in the face of challenges. We gain insights into the profound impact of family, mentors, and teammates, and the pivotal role they play in navigating the highs and lows of the racing journey. From confronting fears to embracing growth, from channeling grief into fuel for success to staying grounded amidst soaring achievements, this conversation offers a masterclass in determination and perseverance. 

    In this interview, you'll learn:

    • How to never lose focus
    • How to become number one
    • The importance of family time
    • The strength of an efficient team
    • How to practice teamwork

    Together, let's hear the untold stories and hidden truths behind the glitz and glamor of the race track. Tune in and prepare to be inspired by the unstoppable spirit of a true racing champion. 

    With Love and Gratitude,

    Jay Shetty

    What We Discuss:

    • 00:00 Intro
    • 02:12 Get to Know the Person Behind the Wheels
    • 03:09 If You Weren’t a Race Car Driver, What Would You Have Been?
    • 04:28 When Was the First Time You’ve Driven a Car?
    • 06:23 How Do You Prepare and Train for a Race
    • 09:21 Sleep is the Number One Priority
    • 13:40 How You React to Mistakes is Super Important
    • 14:47 Losing Focus Will Cost You a Lot
    • 17:34 Gratitude for the Team You Work with
    • 19:08 What Scares You Off Track?
    • 20:25 Channeling Grief into Growth
    • 22:19 “What Would My Father Want Me to Do?”
    • 23:19 Keep Important People Close Especially in Difficult Moments
    • 25:03 Always Stay Humble and Grateful
    • 26:08 In the Midst of Success, How Do You Stay Humble?
    • 28:23 What Criticism Hurts the Most?
    • 31:39 Car Racing Remains a Dangerous Sport
    • 32:55 Speed Isn’t the Only Important Part of F1 Racing
    • 34:19 Training is Different for F1 Drivers
    • 37:09 Have You Seen the Movie “The Rush”?
    • 39:07 Different Driving Experiences
    • 40:15 I Love Playing the Piano
    • 42:52 How Much Time Do You Spend with Family?
    • 44:47 The Incredible Racing Track of Ayrton Senna
    • 46:10 The Pros and Cons of an F1 Simulator
    • 48:19 On Lying About Signing the F1 Contract
    • 51:37 Is Driving a Lonely Sport?
    • 53:40 How Important Is It to Win the Championship?
    • 55:02 What Would You Say to Your Future Self?
    • 56:51 How Often Do You Work with Younger Drivers?
    • 58:56 “I Love What I Do But I Want to Be the Best.”
    • 01:00:27 Charles on Final Five 

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