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    LESSONS from LEADERS: Egbert Perry

    en-usApril 02, 2023
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    About this Episode

    This is the story about how a brilliant builder used  the life  gifts of a stable family upbringing, good education,  and both cultural and business mentorship to do more than just benefit himself. 

    Egbert Perry L. J. Perry is the dynamic and articulate chair and president of the Integral Group, LLC.  It's described as an Atlanta, GA based  real estate development, advisory, and investment management company.  However, under Perry's leadership the company has created urban environments with livability scales that were unthinkable before he came along. 

    This podcast allows listeners to hear more than just stories about inner city building projects.  The topics of market permission, the Atlanta Project and the reasons poverty is treated as a crime are examined in ways not usually discussed. 

    Perry also explains the global housing market from his perspective as the former chair of the $3 trillion organization, FANNIE MAE. 

    LESSONS from LEADERS is produced as part of the Atlanta Business League's 90th Anniversary celebration. 

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