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    Lots More With Claudia Sahm on What the Sahm Rule Is Saying Now

    enAugust 16, 2024
    What does Claudia Somme's Psalm rule indicate about recessions?
    How does the Psalm rule calculate unemployment rates?
    Why is the Psalm rule not infallible in predicting recessions?
    What recent economic challenges complicate the Psalm rule's interpretation?
    How can businesses use partnerships to navigate economic changes?

    Podcast Summary

    • Psalm Rule Recession IndicatorHistorically, when the 3-month moving average of the unemployment rate is 0.5% or more above the 12-month low, a recession may follow. The Psalm rule is an indicator, not a forecast, and is designed to initiate fiscal relief during recessions.

      Claudia Somme's economic rule, known as the Psalm rule, came very close to triggering in July 2023, indicating a potential recession. The rule states that when the three-month moving average of the unemployment rate is 0.5% or more above the 12-month low, a recession has historically followed. While the official calculation of the rule was triggered, there have been slight variations in calculations, making the exact threshold uncertain. The Psalm rule was designed as a simple indicator to initiate fiscal relief during recessions, typically triggering about three months in. It's important to note that the rule is not a forecast but rather an indicator based on historical data.

    • NBER recession ruleThe NBER recession rule, which indicates a recession when the US unemployment rate increases by 0.5 percentage point compared to the prior 12 months, is not infallible and may not fully account for current economic nuances or supply shocks.

      The US unemployment rate reaching a 0.5 percentage point increase compared to the prior 12 months is a reliable historical indicator of a recession. However, this rule, known as the NBER recession rule or the "Somerulum," is not infallible and may not account for current economic nuances or supply shocks that differ significantly from historical records. While the rule was designed to trigger fiscal relief and stabilization as early as possible in a recession, the current economic situation, with unusual disruptions from the pandemic, complicates the interpretation of the rule's application. The labor market's health is a concern, despite the rule's indication of no recession, and debating whether this time is different from historical patterns carries risks. Ultimately, the complexities of the current economic situation require careful consideration and a nuanced understanding of the labor market's health.

    • Labor market patterns during recessionsEmployment rates can be misleading during early stages of recession, and businesses should consider other data sources to assess economic climate accurately.

      The early stages of a recession can be characterized by subtle changes in employment rates, but these signs can be misleading as the economy may already be contracting. Unemployment rates often peak after the recession has ended. The ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, however, presented an exception with its rapid onset. While the firing rate remains low, the hiring rate has decreased, and businesses are holding onto workers, potentially indicating a shift in the labor market pattern. This change could lead to a false sense of security regarding the current economic situation. It's crucial for businesses to be aware of these nuances and not rely solely on employment data when assessing the economic climate. Additionally, partnerships with companies like EcoLab and Bloomberg can help businesses optimize resources, increase productivity, and make informed decisions based on accurate and timely data.

    • Unemployment rate causesThe unemployment rate is rising due to a combination of decreased labor demand and labor supply shifts, with the pandemic being a significant factor. The Fed's actions on inflation could worsen labor market issues.

      The rising unemployment rate is a cause for concern due to the potential negative ripple effects on the economy. The increase in unemployment isn't just due to a weakening demand for labor, but also shifts in labor supply. The pandemic led to a large decrease in the labor force, and when customers returned, not all workers came back, leading to labor shortages. The Fed's response to inflation by keeping interest rates high could exacerbate these labor market issues. It's important to monitor the unemployment rate and its underlying causes to understand the current economic situation and potential future challenges.

    • Labor market complexityThe increase in US unemployment rate could be due to a weakening labor market or a labor supply mismatch. Policymakers should focus on bringing workers into the economy to prevent long-term unemployment and economic stagnation.

      The current state of the US labor market is complex and can be seen from different perspectives. On one hand, the increase in unemployment rate could be a sign of a weakening labor market, which is bad for those out of work. However, if the increase is primarily due to an increase in labor supply, it could also indicate a mismatch between available jobs and workers. In this case, the unemployment rate may eventually decrease as jobs become more plentiful, leading to an expansion of the economy. The politicization of the labor market and the Fed's actions during an election year adds complexity to the situation. It's important to view the labor market through a policy lens, recognizing that the current economic conditions do not indicate a recession. The "rule" of a recession being triggered by a half percentage point increase in state unemployment rates is not a definitive rule, but rather a tool for understanding economic trends. The focus should be on ensuring that policies are in place to help bring workers into the economy as quickly as possible.

    • Water conservation, Economic stimulusBusinesses can save water, costs, and increase capacity with innovative solutions like EcoLab Water for Climate. Policymakers may need to consider economic stimulus measures to boost demand and prevent potential downturns amidst labor market improvements and challenges.

      Businesses can achieve more with less through innovative solutions like EcoLab Water for Climate, which reduces water usage and leads to cost savings, increased capacity, efficiency, and performance. Meanwhile, in the economic sphere, the labor market is experiencing a deceleration in demand despite some positive economic data. As a result, policymakers may consider implementing stimulative measures to help create demand and prevent any potential economic downturn. The labor market, which was previously experiencing labor shortages and high demand, is now showing signs of improvement but still faces challenges. Indicators like initial jobless claims should be considered alongside other economic data to gain a more comprehensive understanding of the current economic situation. Ultimately, it's important for businesses and policymakers to stay informed and adapt to changing circumstances to optimize their operations and drive growth.

    • Economic LandscapeAccess to reliable and optimized financial data can help businesses make informed decisions and stay ahead of the curve in the complex and constantly evolving economic landscape

      The economic landscape is complex and constantly evolving, with ongoing debates and new revelations. The summer of 2024 may bring clarity to some issues surrounding claims and vacancies, but new debates will undoubtedly arise. Meanwhile, having access to reliable and optimized data can help businesses make informed decisions and stay ahead of the curve. With Bloomberg's enterprise data solutions, businesses can gain easy access to detailed financial information and work with financial data experts to maximize their potential. By staying informed and prepared, businesses can navigate the ever-changing economic landscape and thrive in the face of uncertainty.

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