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    Mike Solana: Trump, Crypto, Tech, Politics & Memetic Wars

    enJuly 08, 2024

    Podcast Summary

    • Crypto Perspective from an OutsiderDespite being an outsider to the crypto world, Mike Solana defends people's rights to work and trade in crypto, expressing his views on its current state, the Trump coin controversy, and the future of the US after the 2024 election.

      While the crypto space has its fair share of scams and dishonest actors, there are also genuine innovators and thinkers working on projects that could have a significant impact. Mike Solana, the editor of The Pirate Wires, provides an interesting perspective as someone who is knowledgeable about crypto but not directly involved. He shares his views on the current state of tech, politics, and media, and discusses the Trump coin controversy, which he broke. Solana expresses his feelings about his last name being used for a major cryptocurrency and shares his perspective on the crypto world being viewed as a giant Ponzi casino by some. Despite his personal distance from crypto, he defends people's rights to work and trade in it. The conversation covers a range of topics, including the pivot of tech, the role of Democrats in crypto, and the future of the US after the 2024 election. Overall, the episode provides valuable insights from an outside perspective and highlights the diversity of opinions and perspectives within the crypto community.

    • Trump meme coin, Barron TrumpThe Trump family's involvement in a meme coin created using the UMA protocol led to controversy and financial losses, highlighting the risks and complexities of decentralized finance and the potential influence of speculation and betting markets on public perception.

      The discussion revolves around the Donald J. Trump meme coin and the involvement of Barron Trump, with speculation surrounding the inner workings of the Trump family. The UMA protocol was used to resolve questions about the coin's authenticity and Barron's involvement, leading to controversy and financial losses for some. The incident has caused shockwaves in the decentralized finance community, challenging assumptions about tools and protocols. The speaker believes that Barron asked Trump to launch the meme coin, but it was ultimately shut down due to legal concerns before the election. The absence of a public denunciation from the Trump administration has fueled speculation and debate. If Trump had legitimized the crypto meme coin, it could have had significant implications for the crypto industry and Trump's political support. The speaker also touches on Martin Shkreli's involvement and the potential consequences if Trump's advisors had not put a pause on the coin. Overall, the discussion highlights the complexities and potential risks of decentralized finance and the role of speculation and betting markets in shaping public perception.

    • Political Attention on CryptoThe crypto industry's decentralized nature poses a threat to those seeking complete economic control, leading to political maneuvering and resistance from both major U.S. political parties. The outcome of the 2024 election could potentially be influenced by the crypto industry's financial influence.

      The crypto industry is experiencing significant political attention and maneuvering from both major U.S. political parties. Biden's administration, despite initial hesitation, has shown support for crypto, while the Democrats have seen resistance from some, particularly those on the far left who view crypto as antithetical to their centralized economic ideologies. The crypto industry, with its financial influence, could potentially sway the outcome of the 2024 election. The Democratic Party's stance against crypto, led by figures like Elizabeth Warren, is seen as a self-inflicted wound, as it goes against their desire to remain in power and gain votes and money. The anti-crypto army, as it's been labeled, is driven by ideological differences and a power struggle within the party. Ultimately, crypto's decentralized nature makes it a significant threat to those who aim for complete economic control.

    • Power shift from elites to tech empiresTraditional elites fear losing control due to tech advancements and the rise of new influencers, leading to aggressive regulation and opposition to new technologies like crypto.

      The rise of tech empires and the internet took power away from traditional elites, leading to a new form of influence outside of their control. This has created a sense of unease and a desire to regain control, resulting in aggressive regulation and opposition to new technologies like crypto. The fear is that if they don't act now, they may miss out or be caught off guard again. The conversation also touched on the authoritarian tendencies of some politicians, both on the left and the right, and the importance of staying vigilant against overreach. The crypto industry, with its meme coins and decentralized finance, is seen as both refreshingly honest and earnestly innovative, but also risky and in need of regulation. The challenge is to find a balance between protecting consumers and preserving innovation and economic freedom.

    • Digital permanence vs. ephemeralityDespite the belief in digital permanence, online content is constantly disappearing and physical media may be more durable. Memetic wars in the crypto industry highlight deeper cultural and political conflicts shaping our digital age.

      The digital world is not as permanent as we once believed. Physical media, like old magazines, can be more durable than online content, which is constantly disappearing. This issue is compounded by the fact that not all online content is being archived effectively, leaving important information and memories inaccessible. Furthermore, the crypto industry exists in a parallel digital world, often felt most acutely through social media platforms like Twitter. The memetic wars within the crypto community revolve around various ideologies, such as decentralization versus the nation state, and growth versus degrowth. These ideologies have deep roots in values like freedom, business, technology, and country. Understanding these memetic wars can provide insight into the broader cultural and political conflicts shaping our digital age.

    • Disappearing information on the internetThe importance of acknowledging the challenges of a malleable internet and advocating for a more structured approach to address the issue of disappearing definitions and facts.

      Growth is an inherent part of civilization and human existence, but it comes with complexities and challenges that need to be addressed. The speaker emphasizes the importance of acknowledging these challenges and engaging in meaningful conversations about them, rather than dismissing them or ignoring them. One such challenge is the disappearing information issue on the internet, where definitions and facts can change or vanish, leading to confusion and a distorted understanding of reality. The speaker advocates for a more structured and less malleable internet to help address this issue, but also recognizes that technology itself is inherently complicated and poses new challenges that were impossible to predict. The conversation around AI and its potential dangers is an example of this complexity, where extreme positions on both sides can expand the conversation and lead to a more nuanced understanding of the issue. Overall, the speaker encourages a thoughtful and nuanced approach to the challenges posed by growth and technology.

    • Social Media DecentralizationDecentralized social media platforms like Mastodon and Farcaster aim to address the challenges of manipulated information and ideological fracturing in social media, but the complexity of maintaining a cohesive online presence remains. Projects like Arbitrum and Toku offer scalability, security, and tax efficiency to the Ethereum community as solutions to some of the challenges of the digital age.

      The internet and its technologies are fundamentally changing the way we communicate, share information, and understand reality. The impermanence of information and the ease of manipulating it present new challenges, particularly in the realm of social media. While social media has taken on a more active role in helping society find truth, it also feels broken and fractured, with various platforms catering to different ideologies. The decentralization of social media through platforms like Mastodon and Farcaster is a response to these issues, but it also adds to the complexity of maintaining a cohesive online presence. Balaji Srinivasan, in his interview with Jack Dorsey, highlights the idealistic vision of a completely decentralized version of these systems, but acknowledges that it's increasingly not the world we live in. The chaos and fragmentation of social media are still unfolding, and it remains to be seen how society will reach consensus in this new reality. However, projects like Arbitrum and Toku are providing solutions to some of the challenges of this digital age, offering scalability, security, and tax efficiency to the Ethereum community.

    • Digital truth and social issues in cryptoThe crypto industry faces unique challenges in discerning truth and navigating social issues due to airdrops, bots, and political tribalism, but it also offers potential for decentralized information exchange and challenging centralized power structures

      The digital world, particularly in the context of the crypto industry, presents unique challenges when it comes to discerning truth and navigating social issues. With the rise of airdrops, bots, and political tribalism, it can be difficult to distinguish what's real from what's not. However, this very same issue also holds the potential to challenge long-held beliefs and centralized power structures. The internet, and specifically the crypto community, allows for a decentralized information exchange that can lead to a more nuanced understanding of complex issues. Yet, this also means dealing with an overwhelming amount of information and the influence of algorithms driven by advertising models. Ultimately, the crypto industry, as a spearhead of the rest of society, is grappling with these issues head-on, and while we may not have all the solutions yet, the skills and experiences gained from this digital frontier can help us navigate the increasingly complex internet landscape.

    • Online UncertaintyThe online world's constant influx of information can lead to skepticism and doubt, requiring a critical eye and awareness of biases, but also acknowledging human error and embracing uncertainty for continuous learning.

      The online world, fueled by social media and the rapid spread of information, has introduced a new level of uncertainty and doubt in our lives. Crypto, as a digital currency, is just one example of this trend. Being online is no longer an optional part of life, but a necessary one, where we are constantly exposed to new information and fast-paced changes. This constant influx of information can be overwhelming and lead to skepticism and a general sense of doubt about the validity of what we're seeing. It's important to approach online information with a critical eye and be aware of our biases, but also acknowledge that we're all human and make mistakes. The only way to navigate this chaotic online world may be to embrace the uncertainty and continue learning and adapting.

    • Media in the internet ageThe media landscape is undergoing significant change, with challenges to sustain quality journalism and the pendulum swinging towards decentralization, requiring open conversations and adaptations to the new reality

      Technology, including the internet, brings about complex changes that have both positive and negative consequences. We're currently navigating the challenges of the internet age, which includes issues with media, particularly sustaining business models for quality journalism. The media landscape is undergoing significant change, with large conglomerates on one end and decentralized platforms like pirate wires and bankless on the other. The pendulum seems to be swinging towards decentralization, but the future is uncertain. The key is to acknowledge the issues, have open conversations, and work towards finding solutions while not disregarding the benefits of technology. The media industry must adapt to this new reality and find ways to sustain quality journalism, even if it means rebuilding distribution channels and revenue models on the internet.

    • Media landscape shiftSmaller media and citizen journalists challenge traditional institutions, biases transparency and trust are crucial, and niche coverage and influencer power are growing trends in the media landscape

      The role of citizen journalists and smaller media companies is becoming increasingly important in challenging traditional media institutions and providing alternative perspectives. Social media amplifies the chaotic internet problem but also provides opportunities for smaller groups to grow and become influential nodes for sense-making. Transparency about biases and building trust with audiences are key to success. The future of media lies in embracing biases and providing in-depth coverage of specific niches. While there are concerns about the potential for trust being abused, the power of influencers who are clear about their biases and interests is growing. In the context of the upcoming US election, maintaining a democracy and reducing polarization are crucial concerns. The importance of staying calm and rational in the face of hysteria and misinformation cannot be overstated.

    • Institutional Distrust, Supreme CourtThe distrust towards institutions, particularly the Supreme Court, and potential political maneuvering to control it, poses a threat to American democracy. Checks and balances are crucial to prevent overstepping of roles by the legislative and judicial branches.

      The current state of distrust towards institutions, particularly the Supreme Court, and the potential for political maneuvering to control it, is a significant concern for the future of American democracy. The speaker also expressed concern about the lack of external pressure to address issues in the US due to the country's resources and talent, and the potential risks and uncertainty in the crypto market. Additionally, the importance of having checks and balances in place to prevent the legislative and judicial branches from overstepping their roles was emphasized. The daily brief at Bankless, which covers technology, politics, and culture, was recommended as a resource for staying informed. It's important to note that none of the discussion constituted financial advice.

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    00:00:00 Start

    00:02:59 Are Fundamentals Having a Moment?

    00:08:59 Solana's 83% Discount

    00:12:11 Fundamentals Data

    00:17:09 Fees, SOL vs ETH

    00:19:52 Fee Generation & MEV

    00:22:36 DEX Volume

    00:25:31 Stablecoin Volume

    00:28:08 Total Value Locked

    00:31:49 Core Devs

    00:34:50 Value Accrual

    00:41:45 The Bull Case For Ether

    00:49:22 Upcoming Catalysts

    00:57:09 Qualitative Differences

    00:59:40 Price: SOL vs ETH

    01:04:10 Price Targets

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    enJuly 17, 2024

    Stocks Up & Crypto Flat...Why? | Jim Bianco

    Stocks Up & Crypto Flat...Why? | Jim Bianco

    Why are stocks up but crypto’s not? What happened to the bull market?

    Jim Bianco is the perfect guest to intersect crypto, traditional finance and the broader macro world. And that’s exactly why we brought him on the show today. 

    We ask him:

    - Are tech stocks in an AI bubble?
    - Is crypto going to have its moment?
    - How’s the U.S economy really doing?
    - What are the next potential market movers?

    Jim guides us through all this, not only that, he explains how he’s positioning himself and his portfolio for 2024.

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    0:00 Intro
    5:28 Stocks Outperforming Crypto?
    12:36 AI Bubble?
    18:05 Buffet Indicator
    22:57 Money Markets at ATH
    28:21 Crypto ETFs
    38:02 Tokenization
    42:50 Crypto’s Political Shift
    51:37 Crypto’s Pain Points
    1:04:19 Inflation
    1:12:07 Recession Coming?
    1:22:05 Market Movers
    1:26:37 Jim Bianco’s Portfolio
    1:32:48 Closing & Disclaimers

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    Jim Bianco
    https://x.com/biancoresearch  

    Bianco Research
    https://www.biancoresearch.com/visitor-home/  

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    Exponential
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    enJuly 15, 2024

    ROLLUP: Stocks vs. Crypto | EthCC Recap | Trump BTC Conf Speaker | ETH Documentary Release

    ROLLUP: Stocks vs. Crypto | EthCC Recap | Trump BTC Conf Speaker | ETH Documentary Release

    Bankless Friday Weekly Rollup
    Second Week of July
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    00:00 Start

    03:18 ETH CC Vibes
    https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1811041008966160595 

    05:47 Vitalik Updates
    https://x.com/ranjan3118/status/1810707552256327783 
    https://x.com/0xMichz/status/1810771333846028629?t=4WJ_G8nmaQfz2fbiB7ggeQ&s=19 
    https://www.theblock.co/post/304479/vitalik-buterin-pushes-for-ethereum-to-respond-to-51-attacks-in-a-more-automated-way 

    08:53 Getting Robbed?
    https://x.com/evanincrypto/status/1810377921628123333 

    10:09 Speaking of Crime...
    https://x.com/_b33ts/status/1811171877416792528 

    10:45 Bankless ETHCC Meetup
    https://x.com/BanklessHQ/status/1810629985298006148 

    11:21 Markets
    https://x.com/caprioleio/status/1809146232104988817 
    https://x.com/ArkhamIntel/status/1810611088838279436 
    https://x.com/JoanaCotar/status/1808888782738911614 
    https://www.theblock.co/post/303911/bitstamp-mt-gox-bitcoin-asap-once-arrives 

    15:09 Bullish Factors
    https://x.com/jseyff/status/1809432981573865565?s=46 
    https://www.theblock.co/data/crypto-markets/bitcoin-etf 
    https://x.com/NateGeraci/status/1810731660247453976 

    18:18 ETH ETF Incoming
    https://x.com/EricBalchunas/status/1810331280006861268 
    https://cointelegraph.com/news/ethereum-etf-launch-close-to-finish-line-bitwise-cco 

    19:01 Grayscale ETHE
    https://x.com/SGJohnsson/status/1810420032541020174 
    https://ycharts.com/companies/ETHE/discount_or_premium_to_nav 

    25:53 Good Inflation Numbers
    https://www.barrons.com/news/us-stocks-pause-near-records-after-good-inflation-data-5bb78439 
    https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1811377447461339368 

    26:34 Stocks Up, Crypto Uhh?
    https://www.theblock.co/data/crypto-markets/prices/btc-pearson-correlation-30d 
    https://www.tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=NASDAQ%3AQQQ 
    https://x.com/EricBalchunas/status/1808155233274458605 

    30:38 BUIDL $500M Market Cap
    https://etherscan.io/token/0x7712c34205737192402172409a8f7ccef8aa2aec 

    32:48 Tokenized Assets
    https://app.rwa.xyz/treasuries 
    https://fortune.com/crypto/2024/07/10/goldman-sachs-launch-tokenization-bitcoin-etfs-crypto-mcdermott/ 
    https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/financial-services/our-insights/from-ripples-to-waves-the-transformational-power-of-tokenizing-assets 

    35:13 ETH Gas Fees Are LOW
    https://etherscan.io/chart/gasprice 
    https://www.growthepie.xyz/fundamentals/rent-paid 
    https://x.com/lookonchain/status/1808411819700277746 
    https://thedefireport.io/research/sol-discount-eth 

    42:08 Crypto Enters GOP Platform
    https://x.com/nic__carter/status/1810378813089718518?s=46 

    45:31 Donal Trump Joins Bitcoin Conference
    https://x.com/TheBitcoinConf/status/1811181245906506031 

    47:24 The Role of Crypto In Elections
    https://www.grayscale.com/elections 
    https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1811033027834708226 

    50:31 Celsius Sues Thousand Of Users
    https://x.com/CelsiusLOC/status/1808137312242479441 

    53:47 Ethereum Story Documentary
    https://paragraph.xyz/@ethereumfilm/not-just-a-film 
    https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fblo1x040x8d81.png 

    55:41 Raises
    https://x.com/romeprotocol/status/1810657493875294558?s=46&t=dAxCjT2P_GIrJMvMgWIpfA 

    57:04 Meme of The Week

    58:09 Moment of Zen
    https://x.com/BitwiseInvest/status/1810303321099366453 

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    enJuly 12, 2024

    Why You Should Leave Your Country | Andrew Henderson

    Why You Should Leave Your Country | Andrew Henderson

    Is it a good idea to diversify your citizenship given the current global landscape? 

    We brought on Andrew Henderson, an entrepreneur, a global citizen to nearly a dozen countries around the world, and the founder Nomad Capitalist - a company that helps people maximize their freedom by getting multiple citizenships and passports.

    Hear why considering a second or even a third citizenship might be beneficial, the most crypto-friendly jurisdictions, and what an exit tax entails. Andrew also shares why he renounced his US citizenship and provides insights into the costs and process of obtaining a second passport. 

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    0:00 Intro
    6:04 Where Is Andrew?
    6:52 Andrew’s Citizenships?
    8:26 Audience Overview 
    10:47 Andrew On Multiple Citizenship?
    14:41 Option To Exit 
    21:17 Why Multiple Citizenship?
    29:01 Is Multiple Citizenship Urgent?
    35:20. What Is Exit Tax?
    41:32 Regaining US Citizenship
    46:20 Andrew’s Top 5 Citizenships
    51:36 Dual Citizenship: Factors & Process
    54:30 Who Is It For?
    59:31 Lifestyle Trade-Offs
    1:03:51 Crypto-Friendly Jurisdictions?
    1:06:02 Digital Citizenships?
    1:07:19 Is This Unpatriotic?
    1:10:54 What If There’s No Option?
    1:15:47 Is This Unfair?
    0:23:30 Summary & Resources 
    1:27:21 Closing & Disclosure 

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    enJuly 10, 2024

    Mike Solana: Trump, Crypto, Tech, Politics & Memetic Wars

    Mike Solana: Trump, Crypto, Tech, Politics & Memetic Wars

    Is the U.S going to be ok?

    Mike Solana (no relation to Solana the chain, that’s his name),is the editor-in-chief of Pirate Wires and the guy who broke the Trump Memecoin news.

    We brought him on the show today to try to make sense of the current state of politics in the face of the upcoming election, and what it all means for crypto.

    Expect to learn why tech has pivoted right, why democrats are cracking down on crypto, why media in 2024 is fundamentally broken and much more.

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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Intro
    7:10 $DJT Memecoin
    16:36 Crypto Politics
    29:39 Mike’s Perspective on Crypto
    34:12 Memetic Wars
    37:58 Growth vs Degrowth
    43:22 Information Wars
    53:35 Social Media
    1:01:52 Being Terminally Online
    1:14:18 Media in 2024
    1:26:30 2024 Election
    1:31:15 Closing & Disclaimers

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    RESOURCES

    Mike Solana
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    Pirate Wires Daily
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    enJuly 08, 2024