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    This is the first installment in our series on Mind Control, and also the first installment in the story of Dr. Frank Olson, a U.S. Army Bioweapons expert who fell to his death from a hotel room window in 1954. The official cause of death was suicide, but many suspect it was "murder most foul."
    In this session we briefly discuss current events, introduce the CIA's "Poisoner in Chief" Syndey Gottlieb, tell the story of how the CIA's mind control programs became known to the public, relate the events that occurred in the week leading up to Frank Olson's death, including the mysterious Deep Creek Lake meeting and Olson's subsequent fall from room 1018A of the Statler Hotel in Manhattan.

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    The Deep State History of John C. Lilly: Part 1, Isolation, Brain Stimulation, and Modified Human Agents

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    This series is about the controversial scientist, psychadelic pioneer, dolphin expert and possible CIA assett, Dr. John C. Lilly. 

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    We discuss Lilly's years at CalTech, then Dartmouth, then Penn State. 

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