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    Yvonne and Rafael talk to Nick Ferrante LIVE! Sunday, as we gear up for the WCI  Conference starting Monday, 8/21 in Orlando, Florida. 

    This is part of our LIVE! Conference series. These are shorter episodes and are unedited. 

    To learn more about gain life, visit: 
    https://www.gainlife.com/

    ¡Muchas Gracias! Thank you for listening. We would appreciate you sharing our podcast with your friends on social media. Find Yvonne and Rafael on Linked In or follow us on Twitter @deconstructcomp

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    ¡Muchas Gracias! Thank you for listening. We would appreciate you sharing our podcast with your friends on social media. Find Yvonne and Rafael on Linked In or follow us on Twitter @deconstructcomp

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