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    “One Does Not Know Where an Insight Will Come From” | People I (Mostly) Admire: Kerwin Charles

    en-usSeptember 19, 2020

    Podcast Summary

    • The power of a strong foundation and support systemWith loving and supportive parents and community, even those growing up in challenging circumstances can overcome obstacles and achieve great success through hard work and determination.

      No matter where you come from, with the right support and determination, you can achieve great success. This was exemplified in the conversation with Kerwin Charles, the Dean of the Yale School of Management, who grew up in a small village in Guyana. Despite the challenges of growing up in a poor country, Kerwin's loving and supportive parents and community gave him the tools to overcome obstacles and pursue his dreams. Kerwin's story serves as a reminder that while the journey to success may be unlikely, it is still achievable with hard work, determination, and the right support system. Kerwin's success is not only a testament to his own abilities but also to the power of a strong foundation and the importance of education.

    • Embracing new experiences and learning can lead to personal growth and opportunitiesOpenness to new experiences and continuous learning can lead to unexpected opportunities and personal growth, as shown by the speaker's journey from a young reader to a renowned economist and academic.

      Being open to new experiences and continuous learning can lead to unexpected opportunities and personal growth. The speaker, who was drawn to America from a young age through reading and interactions, became an accomplished economist and academic, eventually leading to his current role as Dean of the Yale School of Management. He emphasized the importance of developing public speaking skills, both through practice and slowing down to effectively communicate ideas. An intriguing area of his research is the history of public health interventions against tuberculosis, which saw a significant decrease in deaths despite limited medical advancements, suggesting the impact of societal and environmental factors.

    • Public health interventions' impact on US TB rates less effective than believedTechnological shocks, labor demand changes, and social factors, not just public health interventions, have influenced US TB rates in young men.

      The impact of public health interventions on tuberculosis rates in the United States was less effective than previously believed. While public health efforts such as anti-spitting laws, improvements in meat inspection, and water quality did contribute to some degree, they did not have the significant impact that was once assumed. Instead, other factors like technological shocks and changes in labor demand may be driving the trends in young men's participation in the workforce. For instance, the rise of video games and social media as key activities for men, and housing booms and busts, have played a role in explaining the increase in young men who are not in school or working. These findings have implications for understanding labor market trends in other countries and contexts.

    • Comfortable with heterogeneity and open to revisionEffective decision-making requires adaptability to various contexts and openness to change after thorough consideration and reflection. Embrace cultural differences and respect their significance.

      Effective decision-making involves being comfortable with heterogeneity across contexts and being open to revision. Dean Kerwin Charles shares his personal experiences with making decisions as a referee, editor, and dean, emphasizing the importance of being comfortable with different decision-making styles depending on the situation. He also encourages embracing the unknown and being open to change after due diligence and reflection. Additionally, Charles discusses his experiences as an immigrant and the realization of cultural differences, despite feeling a sense of sameness with African-Americans in the US. He emphasizes the importance of respecting and understanding these differences.

    • Progress and setbacks for African AmericansDespite advancements in African-American representation in national legislation and education, economic disparities persist, with incarceration rates, employment opportunities, and educational opportunities worsening for those at the bottom since 1970.

      While significant progress has been made in the civil rights of African Americans since key milestones in American history, there are still substantial disparities and disappointments. If we imagine sitting and having lunch during these high points in history, we might be surprised or disappointed by the economic progress African Americans have made. Although there have been advancements such as African-American representation in national legislation and education, there are areas where progress has stalled or even regressed. For instance, the incarceration rate, employment experience, and educational opportunities for African Americans at the bottom of the distribution have worsened since 1970. The experience of African Americans is a complex mix of progress and setbacks, and it's crucial to acknowledge both aspects. This is evident in the research that shows African Americans at the top of the distribution have made significant strides, but those at the bottom have even lost ground relative to whites.

    • Historical and economic forces have widened racial earnings gapHistorical and economic forces have disproportionately affected African Americans, exacerbating racial earnings gap. Policymakers could invest in education and address economic disparities to mitigate these effects.

      Historical and economic forces, such as the decline of manufacturing, automation, and housing market collapses, have disproportionately affected African Americans and widened the earnings gap between races. These forces, while race-neutral, have exacerbated existing disparities based on initial conditions. Additionally, certain policies, like Brown v. Board, have had positive buffeting effects by disproportionately raising spending on African American students and schools, preventing worse negative outcomes. If one were in charge of policy on race in America with a large budget, potential solutions could include investing in education, specifically the college premium, and addressing the root causes of economic disparities.

    • Addressing skills gap and wealth disparity for African AmericansIncreasing access to higher education and addressing wealth disparity are crucial for African Americans in the labor market. Targeted transfers and easing liquidity constraints can help achieve this.

      Addressing the skills gap among African Americans by increasing access to higher education is crucial in today's labor market. Additionally, addressing the wealth disparity between African Americans and whites, which is more persistent and impactful than the income gap, should be a priority. This can be achieved through targeted transfers and easing liquidity constraints. Racial segregation continues to persist in various aspects of American society, leading to misunderstandings and negative stereotypes. Understanding the historical roots of these disparities and promoting interracial interactions can help bridge cultural divides and foster deeper connections. For instance, the lack of overlap in popular culture between African Americans and whites highlights the importance of addressing these issues and promoting greater understanding and inclusivity.

    • Racial tensions in Guyana's politics and societyAddress underlying racial and ethnic issues to prevent oil discovery from causing further division, and embrace inclusive parenting to raise unique children.

      In Diana, race is a complex and multifaceted aspect of society. While there is more fluid racial mixing in daily life, politics and official social organization have long been a source of racial tension. The discovery of oil in Guyana presents both opportunities and challenges, including the potential for simmering racial tensions to rise to the surface. To effectively utilize this resource and prevent it from causing further division, addressing the underlying racial and ethnic issues is crucial. Additionally, the importance of inclusive parenting was discussed, as every child is unique and may not share the same interests or passions as their parents.

    • Supporting children's passions and cultural heritageEncourage children to embrace their unique identity, learn about their cultural history, and be proud of their heritage, while fostering a sense of belonging and unity within the larger American community.

      Parents should accept and support their children's passions, while instilling pride in their cultural heritage. This includes exposing them to the history, traditions, and influential figures from their community, as well as emphasizing their place in the larger American family. It's important for children to understand their unique identity and be proud of it, without resorting to bravado or aggression. Navigating these conversations can be tricky, but it's essential for helping children develop a strong sense of self and cultural awareness. The discussion also touched upon the importance of teaching children about the complex and multifaceted history of America, which includes the contributions of people of all races. Ultimately, the goal is to help children develop a deep appreciation for their heritage, while fostering a sense of belonging and unity within the larger American community.

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