PalmCast Episode 92

Derek and Adam discuss HP's open source roadmap, Enyo everywhere, Jon Rubinstein's departure, and apps - what else?

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News

• webOS 3.0.5 now available for TouchPad
• webOS 3.0.5 update makes future built-in app updates more flexible
• Review: HP TouchPad Go
• CyanogenMod 9 to bring Android Ice Cream Sandwich to TouchPad
• CyanogenMod 9 Alpha 0 brings Android 4.0 in rough form to TouchPad
• webOS "deeply flawed"? Point fingers at the plan, not the code
• HP appoints Bill Veghte as new Chief Strategy Officer, to lead webOS open source initiative
• Jon Rubinstein, former Palm CEO, leaves HP
• Brian Hernacki, Chief Architect of webOS, leaves HP
• Whitman thinks webOS "has huge advantages" over iOS and Android
• HP's open source webOS roadmap
• HP announces Enyo 2.0 application framework, open sources 1.0
• Open webOS 1.0, Enyo 2.0, and fulfilling the revised dream
• What is this Open webOS 1.0?
• Enyo is all up in your browsers, and there's nothing you can do about it
• First open source Enyo app jumping to other platforms: Paper Mache on Android, FlashCards everywhere
• Enyo goes Android: Paper Mache on ICS
• WebOS Internals releases Enyo for unloved webOS smartphones
• App Tuckerbox public release brings App Catalog feeds back to Preware
• Picsel expands Smart Office support to webOS 1.4.5, qualifies as awesome in our book
• Astraware reaches another sales mark as Sudoku HD gets released
• Project Macaw goes public in the webOS Nation Homebrew Gallery
• Auto-Update System Modification Technology to unite patches and themes in update glory
• February is fitness month at Mobile Nations

Thanks again to everybody for writing in as well as everybody that participated live in person and in the chat!

Credits

Thanks to the webOS Nation Store for sponsoring the PalmCast. You can email the PalmCast at podcast@webosnation.com or leave us a voicemail at 800-557-6819 x222.

Music comes from ccMixter.org, a great Creative Commons music site. Our specific music is the following:

"The New Music" by Alex Beroza

Derek and Rene talk about the big news of the week - webOS goes open source.

News

• Introducing webOS Nation; still your home for all things webOS!
• Follow webOS Nation on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and Google+
• Whitman on webOS: "It was good, and we didn't even get a chance."
• webOS all-hands meeting scheduled for tomorrow morning - it all finally comes to a head
• HP to open source webOS, no hardware plans or partners announced
• The open source plan
• webOS is dead, long live webOS
• Whitman: HP will make new webOS tablets, eventually, but not smartphones
• The "OS" in "webOS" should have always meant "Open Source" [editorial]
• The hurdles to an open source webOS
• webOS 3.0 booted onto Evo 3D, cats found to be quite accepting of dogs
• Pivot out, Featured Apps back in
• webOS Nation Best of 2011 Awards now open for nominations

Thanks again to everybody for writing in as well as everybody that participated live in person and in the chat!

Credits

Thanks to the PreCentral Store for sponsoring the PalmCast. You can email the PalmCast at podcast@treocentral.com or leave us a voicemail at 800-557-6819 x222.

Music comes from ccMixter.org, a great Creative Commons music site. Our specific music is the following:

"The New Music" by Alex Beroza

Adam, Derek, and Tim go over the non-news that is webOS, discuss our holiday gift picks for the webOS fan, and due our best Nostradamus impressions.

News

• HP officially reverses course, won't spin off PC division
• Whitman: We'll make a decision on webOS "in the next few months"
• Reuters: HP pondering sale of webOS, likely to net "hundreds of millions of dollars"
• webOS all-hands meeting called for this afternoon, answers likely to result
• HP still not sure what to do with webOS, will take three-to-four weeks to decide
• HP keeping webOS a real possibility – what could that mean?
• HP reports Q4 and 2011 full year results – lost $3.3 billion on webOS
• How HP can sell and keep webOS at the same time
• HP to make decision on webOS by early December; sale may be contingent upon HP getting webOS for printers (what else?)
• No TouchPads to be made available through normal channels (but Best Buy will sell you one with an HP laptop)
• HP laptop + TouchPad bundle extended to Wal-Mart, makes us wonder about that whole "out of stock" thing
• TouchPad returns to TigerDirect in yet another HP PC bundle deal
• TouchPad and webOS apps getting Black Friday treatment
• Black Friday discount kicks in behind schedule for Picsel Smart Office
• HP probing TouchPad customers for feedback, which is odd for a cancelled product
• HP's TouchPad satisfaction survey for everybody
• TouchPad nabs the #2 tablet slot for the first three quarters of 2011, not likely to repeat
• HP Pivot a finalist in 2011 Digital Magazine Awards
• White Pre3 and audio Touchstone make debut on eBay
• PreCentral forum member goes hands-on with swanky Touchstone Audio Dock
• The multi-layer wave launcher that could have been

Derek, Tim, and Rene look at who could buy webOS, who is leaving webOS, and what they're hacking into webOS.

News

• HP looking to sell webOS, Amazon looking to buy?
• HTC considered, decided against, purchasing webOS. Again.
• HP leaning towards un-spinning-off PSG
• Shane Robison retiring from HP Chief of Strategy and Technology, taking his stapler with him
• Richard Kerris leaving HP for "an opportunity outside"
• HP (briefly) sells TouchPads at higher prices; feeler for a future market? [UPDATE: It's back!]
• 32GB TouchPad pops up on DailySteals, asking $239.99
• Android on TouchPad: A different approach to getting Android up and running
• CyanogenMod 7 enjoying dual boot Android alpha glory on TouchPad
• webOS 3.0.4 77 pushed out to TouchPads, includes new camera app
• Hands-on with webOS 3.0.4 [video]
• Bing Maps made available for all webOS phones
• Bing Maps update brings Enyo support to the webOS masses, Troy impressed by giant wooden horse
• 4S, BBX, RAZR, and Ice Cream Sandwich – oh my [the competition]

Thanks again to everybody for writing in as well as everybody that participated live in person and in the chat!

Derek, Adam, Tim discuss HP's new TouchPads, Leo getting the boot and Meg getting the CEO chair, and the HP Pre3.

News

• HP to build additional limited run of TouchPads to satisfy demand
• Digitimes: HP to produce 100,000-200,000 TouchPads to clear out supplier inventories
• New TouchPads to be available in 6-8 weeks, fire sale pricing to remain in effect
• OnSale honoring cancelled orders with a new batch of TouchPads
• 7-inch TouchPad pops up in China, never to make it to retailers near you
• HP splitting the webOS GBU in two; software headed to Office of Strategy and Technology [exclusive]
• HP to lay off as many as 525 at webOS GBU [Updated]
• Samsung CEO: We would "never" purchase webOS
• Qualcom not interested in buying webOS; Continuing support for future devices
• HTC giving consideration to buying its own OS
• Analyst says Facebook should get in on the webOS game
• Official: Leo Apotheker out as HP CEO, Meg Whitman in
• Whitman: No changes to HP’s announced strategy, but no commitments either
• PreCentral community raises $16,699.26 for WebOS Internals!
• 500,000 CEOs contest: make the webOS case to HP, win a TouchPad!
• Review: HP Pre3

Thanks again to everybody for writing in as well as everybody that participated live in person and in the chat!

Credits

Thanks to the PreCentral Store for sponsoring the PalmCast. You can email the PalmCast at podcast@treocentral.com or leave us a voicemail at 800-557-6819 x222.

Music comes from ccMixter.org, a great Creative Commons music site. Our specific music is the following:

• "The New Music" by Alex Beroza

Derek, Adam, Tim, and Keith talk on and on and on about HP's decision to axe webOS device development and the future of webOS.

Thanks to everybody for writing in!

News

• HP to spin off PC unit, double down on cloud and software [rumor]
• BREAKING: HP shutting down webOS device operations, will "continue to explore options"
• HP not willing to make the investments needed to drive webOS to greater marketshare
• HP "not walking away from webOS," say execs at all-hands webOS GBU meeting
• Could there be a suitor for webOS?
• HP shares down more than 20% in wake of yesterday's bloodletting
• AT&T unsurprisingly cancels orders for Pre3
• HP begins TouchPad liquidation; 16GB cut to $99, 32GB $149
• The accidental userbase
• DeWitt: webOS still coming to PCs and printers, Pre3 launch limited to specific markets
• webOS.O.S. - the campaign to save our platform

Thanks again to everybody for writing in as well as everybody that participated live in person and in the chat!

Credits

Thanks to the PreCentral Store for sponsoring the PalmCast. You can email the PalmCast at podcast@treocentral.com or leave us a voicemail at 800-557-6819 x222.

Music comes from ccMixter.org, a great Creative Commons music site. Our specific music is the following:

"The New Music" by Alex Beroza

Mobile Nations 5: A wedding and a funeral Phil, Kevin, Derek, Dan, Georgia, and Rene talk HP dumping webOS hardware, Google picking up Motorola Mobility, RIM's new BlackBerrys reviewed, and what it means for Microsoft and Apple. This is MobileNations!

Agenda

• BREAKING: HP shutting down webOS device operations, will "continue to explore options"
• Could there be a suitor for webOS?
• Did iPad kill HP’s hardware business?
• Google's acquisition of Motorola Mobility: Complete coverage
• Google’s $12.5 billion dollar Motorola insurance policy
• MSFT and Nokia stocks get a boost from Google's deal
• BlackBerry Bold 9900 Review
• BlackBerry Torch 9860 Review
• BlackBerry Torch 9810 Review

Feedback

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• Email: podcast@mobilenations.com
• Twitter: @mobilenations
• Web: www.mobilenations.com

Hosts

• Phil Nickinson (@philnickinson)of Android Central
• Kevin Michaluk (@crackberrykevin) of CrackBerry.com
• Derek Kessler (@dkdsgn) of PreCentral.net
• Daniel Rubino (@Malatesta77) of WPCentral.com
• Georgia (@GeorgiaTiPb) of ZENandTECH.tv
• Rene Ritchie (@reneritchie) of TiPb.com

Credits

Our music is pROgraM vs. Us3R by by morgantj. Introduction by Joseph Holder.

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Derek and Tim talk webOS, the TouchPad, and the strange launch of the Pre3.

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News

• HP knocking $100 from TouchPad pricing August 5-7
• Today only: Grab a 16GB HP TouchPad off Woot for $380
• $100 HP instant rebate + $100 Staples coupon = $300 TouchPad!
• HP's $50 App Catalog credit for early adopters now available in your webOS Account [update]
• $50 worth of webOS apps for you to spend your early-adopter credit on
• HP TouchPad gets a $100 price drop in the US
• HP TouchPad price cuts and early adopter App Catalog credit follow through in Europe, Canada, and Australia
• HP TouchPad 4G pops up for pre-order on Amazon, asking $700 for your mobility privileges
• AT&T TouchPad 4G runs through FCC with HSPA speeds [update: Opal, TouchPad Go?]
• Kindle for TouchPad expands to Canada, forgets mittens
• Hong Kong and New Zealand quietly receive HP TouchPad
• App sales skyrocket and developers join the game - webOS is NOT dead
• TouchPad App Catalog finally enables enlarged app previews
• Six months without the HP Pre3 [editorial]
• HP Pre3 pops up on Orange UK support site, looks to be a lock
• HP Germany lists Pre3 for €349, expected in 1-2 weeks
• SIM Free Pre3 now available via Palm Europe for £299.00 [UPDATE]
• What is this "Touchstone Audio Dock" HP just sent through the FCC, and why do we want one?
• webOS 2.1 coming to a Verizon Pre 2 near you
• HTC strikes exclusive deal for Beats Audio smartphones, we wonder why it's not HP
• Google buying Motorola for $12.5 billion, proving vertical integration is the way to go
• App Preview: Notes+ by Inglorious Apps
• App Preview: FlashCards HD
• App Review: Camera for TouchPad
• App Review: 1+1=2 Feature Calculator
• App Review: Wall Switch
• App Giveaway: 50 copies of Wall Blaster for TouchPad

Thanks again to everybody for writing in as well as everybody that participated live in person and in the chat!

Credits

Thanks to the PreCentral Store for sponsoring the PalmCast. You can email the PalmCast at podcast@treocentral.com or leave us a voicemail at 800-557-6819 x222.

Music comes from ccMixter.org, a great Creative Commons music site. Our specific music is the following:

• "The New Music" by Alex Beroza

Derek and Tim talk about the Pre3, the TouchPad, and the webOS 3.0.2 update.

Thanks to everybody for writing in!

News

• HP gearing up for Pre3 apps; Early Access emulator coming this week
• Enyo support to be present in webOS 2.2 on the HP Pre3
• HP Pre3 to land in jolly 'ole England by the end of August; US launch still hazy
• HP TouchPad pre-order in Singapore comes with prizes, packages, and easy monthly payments
• HP TouchPad hits Asia-Pacific next month, App Catalog expanding to support
• Money-saving options for the HP TouchPad: Amazon, Costco and HP.com
• App reviews: toodleTasks HD, SecuStore 2, Glimpse, Paper Mache
• UberKernel brings faster processor speeds to the (non-4G) TouchPad
• It's time for webOS on the HP TouchPad to reclaim gestures [editorial]
• webOS 3.0.2 68 update now available for HP TouchPad!
• Hands on with webOS 3.0.2 [video]

Thanks again to everybody for writing in as well as everybody that participated live in person and in the chat!

Credits

Thanks to the PreCentral Store for sponsoring the PalmCast. You can email the PalmCast at podcast@treocentral.com or leave us a voicemail at 800-557-6819 x222.

Music comes from ccMixter.org, a great Creative Commons music site. Our specific music is the following:

"The New Music" by Alex Beroza

Derek and Tim get together for manly bromance and webOS love.

News

• Jon Rubinstein moves to SVP of Product Innovation role, Stephen DeWitt takes over webOS GBU
• HP's move puts Rubinstein in Rahul Sood's old shoes, an operations guy in charge of webOS
• Stephen DeWitt, new webOS GBU head, approaching webOS as a salesman
• Bradley: TouchPad marketing push and OTA updates are coming soon
• HP TouchPad now available in the UK and Canada [UPDATE: Germany and France too]
• HP announces AT&T TouchPad 4G with 1.5GHz processor
• webOS 3.0.2 to bring HP MovieStore, Kindle, and more [Exclusive]
• The new tiered webOS developer program gives devs a belt
• Kindle App for HP TouchPad now available! [update]
• HP Movie Store now available for the TouchPad
• Leno and Fallon get in on HP TouchPad advertising, make funnies
• Glee’s Lea Michele does HP TouchPad commercial with Beats [video]
• HP TouchPad coming to Australia on August 15th
• Pre3 probably isn't coming to Sprint. We know, it hurts.
• The HP Pre3 has not gone dual core, we can assure you of that
• A new webOS phone on Sprint doesn't look likely. What's a Sprint Pre owner to do? [poll]
• What if it's HP that wants nothing to do with Sprint?

Thanks again to everybody for writing in as well as everybody that participated live in person and in the chat!

Credits

Thanks to the PreCentral Store for sponsoring the PalmCast. You can email the PalmCast at podcast@treocentral.com or leave us a voicemail at 800-557-6819 x222.

Music comes from ccMixter.org, a great Creative Commons music site. Our specific music is the following:

• "The New Music" by Alex Beroza