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    Pat Grady - Relentless Application of Force - [Invest Like the Best, EP.378]

    enJune 18, 2024

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    • Twigas insights for investorsTwigas, with its extensive transcript library and annual addition of thousands of new ones, offers valuable insights for investors, driven by a culture of stewardship, responsibility, and healthy peer pressure, as seen at Sequoia Capital and in podcasts like Founders.

      Twigas, with its vast and rapidly growing transcript library, offers unparalleled insights for investors. This platform, which hosts over 100,000 transcripts and adds over 25,000 new ones each year, is driven by a sense of stewardship and responsibility, as well as a culture that fosters healthy peer pressure. This sense of responsibility, inherited from Sequoia Capital's founder Don Valentine, fuels the drive for performance and continuous improvement. At Sequoia, partners like Pat Grady, who have been part of legendary investments, maintain this pressure on themselves by creating structures and flattening power dynamics to ensure the best ideas win, regardless of tenure or power. Similarly, Podcasts like Founders, hosted by David Senra, provide valuable insights from studying the lives of legends and distilling battle-tested tactics from the world's icons. These examples illustrate the importance of continuous learning, growth, and pressure to excel in both business and personal endeavors.

    • Sequoia's values and self-imposed pressureAt Sequoia Capital, clear values and self-imposed pressure contribute to high performance and personal growth. Values are reinforced through a demanding yet supportive work environment, and individuals are encouraged to constantly strive for self-improvement.

      High performance and personal growth at Sequoia Capital are achieved through a combination of clear values, self-imposed pressure, and a demanding yet supportive work environment. The speaker, who joined Sequoia at a young age, shares how he put immense pressure on himself to live up to the expectations of the firm and constantly strived for self-improvement. He attributes his deep-rooted values, instilled by his parents and reinforced through his experiences, as the driving force behind his high standards. At Sequoia, the partnership values performance and teamwork, with each team having its unique set of values. The speaker emphasizes the importance and challenge of being both demanding and supportive, which he believes is crucial for high performance. While some values and traits may be innate, the speaker believes that environments and experiences play a significant role in shaping individuals and reinforcing desirable behaviors.

    • Founder character assessmentAssessing a founder's character and values is crucial for successful investments, requiring deep personal questions and building trust. Investors with human understanding and market trend sense excel.

      Understanding the character and values of a founder is crucial for making successful investments, as it goes beyond just understanding the business and market dynamics. This requires asking deep and personal questions to get to know the founder's background, values, and motivations. Building a high-trust relationship with the founder before making an investment can also make the decision-making process simpler. However, assessing human beings is challenging, as it involves opinions rather than facts, and can lead to emotional conflicts. The best investors possess the superpowers of understanding human beings and having a sense for market trends to make successful long-term investments. When starting out, one can use brute force methods to secure meetings, but as experience grows, a more strategic and clever approach becomes essential.

    • Understanding FoundersInvesting time and energy into understanding founders through well-crafted emails and thorough questioning can lead to successful investments. Acknowledging flaws and offering solutions helps build rapport and ultimately convinces founders to work with you. Keep investment memos clear, concise, and focused on understanding rather than impressing others.

      Putting in extra effort to understand founders and their businesses through well-crafted emails and thoughtful questioning can lead to successful investments. Doug Leonia from Sequoia Capital exemplified this approach by investing time and energy into perfecting emails and conducting thorough interrogation-like interviews with founders. By acknowledging flaws and offering solutions, he was able to build rapport and ultimately convince founders to work with Sequoia. For those looking to emulate this strategy, making founders feel seen and understood is crucial. In addition, keeping investment memos clear, concise, and focused on understanding rather than impressing others is also essential. One memorable investment for the speaker was Airbnb in 2009, which initially seemed like a long shot but ultimately proved to be a successful investment due to the founders' passion and the market's potential.

    • Unconventional VC InvestingVC investors should aim for exponential growth, invest in emerging market leaders and businesses with unique value propositions, and focus on sustainable competitive advantages to build a financial model based on market dynamics

      Successful venture capital investments require a bold and unconventional perspective. Instead of aiming for modest returns, investors should look for companies with the potential for exponential growth, even if it means facing skepticism. The use of specific criteria, such as investing in emerging market leaders and businesses with unique and compelling value propositions, can help identify these opportunities. These concepts may seem simple, but they hide a depth of nuance and complexity. For instance, being an emerging market leader means investing in companies that are poised to become market leaders in emerging markets, not necessarily those that are already dominant. A unique and compelling value proposition refers not only to revenue scale but also to margin structure. By focusing on these factors, investors can build a financial model based on market dynamics and a company's position, rather than relying on linear extrapolations. Additionally, a sustainable competitive advantage is crucial for protecting and growing these margins, making it a vital consideration in the investment process.

    • Founder's impactSequoia invests based on a founder's potential and understanding of their business, rather than the business model or market. They value clarity in a company's story and aim to understand the magnitude and direction of a person's abilities during reference checks.

      The success of a company often comes down to the founder and their unique abilities, culture, and DNA. This was evident in the case of DoorDash and its founder Tony Xu. Despite competition from other delivery companies, DoorDash thrived due to Xu's exceptional understanding of the business and his ability to create compounding advantages. During the investment process, Sequoia's Alfred was impressed by Xu's grasp of DoorDash's business fundamentals, leading him to invest based on Xu's potential rather than the business model or market. Similarly, Sequoia looks for clarity in a company's story, rather than perfection. They keep asking questions until they have a clear understanding of what's happening in the business and what risks they're taking on. In a reference check, Sequoia aims to understand the magnitude and direction of a person's abilities, ensuring they will contribute positively to the team and the company's goals.

    • AI investmentUnderstanding market opportunities and exceptional people are crucial for successful AI investments. Recent advancements provide new possibilities, but there's still immense potential for optimization and improvement.

      The success of an investment, particularly in the field of AI, depends on both understanding the market opportunities and the exceptional people behind the technologies. The market sets the potential for growth, but the individuals driving the innovation determine the actual outcome. The physics background can provide valuable insights into the rules and dynamics of the system, but a human perspective is essential for understanding the actions and motivations of the key players. The current excitement around AI is driven by recent advancements, such as ChatGPT and Stable Diffusion, which have opened new possibilities for applications and industries. However, even if we freeze the current capabilities, there is still immense potential for optimization and improvement, making this an exciting and transformative field.

    • Efficiency gap in LLMsDespite current limitations, LLMs have potential for useful applications and services. Focus on unique value proposition for customers and build a supportive platform for growth.

      While large language models (LLMs) have shown remarkable progress, they are still significantly less efficient than the human brain. The efficiency gap presents an opportunity for innovation and the discovery of new architectures that could potentially surpass current models. Harvey, a legal assistant company, is an example of a business built on top of LLMs, demonstrating the potential for useful applications and services despite the current limitations. When evaluating AI products, it's essential to focus on the unique and compelling value proposition for the customer, rather than the underlying technology. Successful investment firms, like Sequoia, build a platform that supports founders and companies, providing resources, expertise, and a network that can help them grow and thrive. This approach fosters a virtuous cycle, where success begets further success, creating a powerful brand and reputation that attracts more opportunities.

    • Sequoia Capital's platform teamSequoia Capital's platform team amplifies investment efforts with marketing, talent, engineering, product, data science, design, and customer partnerships, providing advanced data systems and a vast database of proprietary signals, and builds things that compound over time, such as a talent database, giving them a competitive edge in the startup landscape.

      Sequoia Capital's platform team significantly amplifies the efforts of their investment team, providing advantages that compound over time. This team, consisting of marketing, talent, engineering, product, data science, design, and customer partnerships, amplifies the investment team's ability to source, evaluate, and make informed decisions through advanced data systems and a vast database of proprietary signals. Additionally, the platform team builds things that can compound over time, such as their talent database, giving Sequoia a competitive edge in the rapidly growing startup landscape. The strategic decision to invest in their platform was driven by the democratization of the means of production and the need for human relationships and decision-making in the world of investing. By concentrating their knowledge and experience on a smaller team, Sequoia can hire and develop outlier talent, producing exceptional investors and increasing their chances of discovering and investing in outlier founders. The story of Michael Moritz's investment in Klarna serves as a reminder to focus on the first-order issues and the importance of having a strong engineering team to execute on a compelling value proposition.

    • Mission orientation, teamwork, focus on qualityIn venture capital, having a strong mission orientation, committing to teamwork, and focusing on quality and expertise are essential for success.

      Being fully committed to the mission and having a strong work ethic, as well as being a valuable team player, are essential qualities for success in venture capital. The speaker shared an experience of being fully immersed in an ax-throwing activity during a camping trip with Sequoia Capital founders, where they demonstrated a single-minded focus on achieving the objective function. This ultimate mission orientation, coupled with a strong teamwork mentality, is what makes a top performer and a top teammate in the industry. The speaker also emphasized the importance of quality over quantity and focusing on one specific area of expertise to build a successful venture capital firm. The example of his wife's firm, Conviction Partners, which specializes in early-stage AI companies, illustrates this point. In summary, the keys to success in venture capital are a strong mission orientation, a commitment to teamwork, and a focus on quality and expertise.

    • Venture capital as asset classApproaching venture capital as an asset class can lead to investing in companies that don't create significant market value. Focus on genuine motivation and strong commitment to goals for legendary potential.

      Approaching venture capital as an asset class can lead to investing in companies that don't need to exist, as the vast majority of startups fail to create significant market value. To achieve legendary potential, it's essential to have genuine motivation, whether it's a deep passion for solving a problem, a commitment to serving entrepreneurs, or a relentless application of force. The kindest thing anyone can do is give someone a chance and help them flourish, as was the case for the speaker when they were given a scholarship in college. Ultimately, the most successful ventures are driven by individuals with pure motives and a strong commitment to their goals.

    • Intentions, Demonstrating StrongDemonstrating strong intentions is crucial for professional success. Gratitude for learning opportunities and continuous growth are also valuable.

      Intentions play a crucial role in professional success. Jim recognized the importance of not just skills and attributes, but also the sincere desire to do the right thing. This was evident in the speaker's actions, and it was a significant factor in Jim choosing to support him instead of firing him. This episode underscores the importance of demonstrating strong intentions in the workplace and in life. It's not just about what we can do, but also why we do it. Furthermore, this conversation highlights the value of learning and growth. The speaker expressed gratitude for the opportunity to engage in this discussion and emphasized the importance of continuous learning. By sharing resources and insights, we can all expand our knowledge and improve ourselves. To keep learning, check out joincolossus.com for episode transcripts, show notes, and resources. Sign up for Colossus Weekly to receive condensed episode summaries, notable quotes, and curated content delivered to your inbox each week.

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    Dev Ittycheria - The Database Evolution - [Invest Like the Best, EP.373]
    My guest today is Dev Ittycheria. Dev is the CEO of MongoDB, the developer data platform with tens of thousands of customers in 100 different countries. He joined the company as CEO in 2014, taking it public in 2017, and is now approaching a decade of leading MongoDB to become a go-to choice for the most sophisticated organizations around the world. We discuss Dev’s philosophy for constructing an exceptional enterprise sales organization, why he feels a leader must be incredibly judgemental to drive excellence, and how he plans to guide MongoDB through another technological transition. Please enjoy this conversation with Dev Ittycheria. Listen to Founders Podcast For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Tegus, the only investment research platform built for the investor. With traditional research vendors, the diligence process is slow, fragmented, and expensive. That leaves investors competing on how well they can aggregate data — not on their unique ability to analyze insights and make great investment decisions. Tegus offers an end-to-end platform with all the data you need to get up to speed on a company or market: up-to-the-minute financials, customizable models, management and culture checks, and, of course, our vast and growing library of expert call transcripts. Tegus is changing the world of expert research. Learn more and get your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more. Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes: (00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like the Best (00:03:39) A CEO's Perspective Of The AI Revolution (00:05:50) The Evolution of Apps From Trivial to Transformative (00:08:12) MongoDB's Journey From Startup to AI Era (00:10:03) Building a Modern Database Company: MongoDB's Story (00:13:19) The Long-Term Vision for MongoDB  (00:15:51) Dev’s Formative Experiences as a Tech CEO (00:19:18) The Art of Enterprise Sales (00:25:28) The Development of Dev as a Leader (00:29:01) Getting the Most Out of Your Talent (00:33:17) Managing a Multi-Product, Multi-Channel Enterprise (00:37:29) Dev’s Recruiting Philosophy (00:43:12) The Role of Leadership and Mentorship in Career Growth (00:46:08) Dev’s Deepest Worry With MongoDB (00:49:35) Personal Investment Philosophy and Identifying Potential (00:53:52) The Art of Leadership: Accountability and Development (00:57:50) Learning from Legends: Andy Grove's Management Insights (01:02:54) The Power in MongoDB’s Business (01:06:13) Up Next for Dev and MongoDB (01:08:34) The Kindest Thing Anyone Has Ever Done For Dev

    Nico Wittenborn - Finding the Adjacent Possible - [Invest Like the Best, EP.372]

    Nico Wittenborn - Finding the Adjacent Possible - [Invest Like the Best, EP.372]
    My guest today is Nico Wittenborn. Nico is the founder of Adjacent, a venture firm that looks for what he describes as the “adjacent possible” for their next investment. Nico has zoned in on the consumer subscription market as his ideal candidate, making early investments in Calm App, Photoroom, and Oura Ring. Nico does virtually all steps of the investing process on his own as he believes this allows him to be as close to finding the truth as possible. We discuss sharpening your intuition, evaluating the subscription business model, and exploring the adjacent possible. Please enjoy this conversation with Nico Wittenborn.  Listen to Founders Podcast For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Tegus, the only investment research platform built for the investor. With traditional research vendors, the diligence process is slow, fragmented, and expensive. That leaves investors competing on how well they can aggregate data — not on their unique ability to analyze insights and make great investment decisions. Tegus offers an end-to-end platform with all the data you need to get up to speed on a company or market: up-to-the-minute financials, customizable models, management and culture checks, and, of course, our vast and growing library of expert call transcripts. Tegus is changing the world of expert research. Learn more and get your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more. Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes: (00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like the Best (00:03:30) Intuition in Investment Decisions (00:05:08) The Philosophy of Adjacency in Venture Capital (00:12:51) Exploring Consumer Subscription Models (00:18:16) Common Mistakes In Subscription Pricing (00:22:41) Errors in Product Roll-Out Strategy (00:28:50) The Sucess of BirdBuddy (00:33:45) What It Means To Be a Great Product (00:38:21) Solo Investing vs. Being Part of a Big Firm (00:43:12) Building On Your Own Experience As a Founder (00:44:49) The Rise of Individual Investors and Their Impact (00:50:52) The Strategic Advantage of Staying Small in Venture Capital (00:52:02) Deep Dive into Founder Questions and Consumer Subscription Insights (00:54:09) Leveraging AI and Technological Advances for Growth (00:59:13) Exploring Future Investments and Market Opportunities (01:05:13) Areas to Explore On The Value Curve For Consumer Subscription  (01:12:32) Advice For Those Interest In Nico’s Path  (01:20:10) The Kindest Thing Anyone Has Ever Done for Nico

    Mitch Rales: The Art of Compounding - [Art of Investing, Forever Episode]

    Mitch Rales: The Art of Compounding - [Art of Investing, Forever Episode]
    We are excited to share a great conversation with Mitch Rales, the co-founder of Danaher and one of the living legends in the world of business and investing. Consider that Danaher has annualized at over 21% for four decades, resulting in an 1800-times multiple on invested capital! This is Mitch's first long-form interview of any kind, and he covers his entire history and business philosophy. Interviewing Mitch are Paul Buser and Rick Buhrman, who host the Art of Investing podcast on the Colossus network. Please enjoy this comprehensive discussion with Mitch Rales. Listen to more Art of Investing. For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Passthrough. If you've ever filled out a subscription document to invest in a fund or worked with LPs to fill out their docs to invest in your fund, you know what a nightmare this exercise can be. Passthrough finally solves this problem. They configure custom workflows for your electronic subscription agreements and KYC & AML requirements to shrink the time for your investors to complete their sub docs. It's the best way to manage a critical part of your relationship with your LPs and is simply a drastically better experience for both investing firms and LPs alike. To learn more, go to passthrough.com. This episode is brought to you by Tegus, the only investment research platform built for fundamental investors. Whether you’re trying to get up to speed on a new market or keep tabs on a portfolio company, Tegus is the end-to-end investment research platform you need. With Tegus, you can quickly understand a company's business model, drivers, benchmarks, and management quality. To monitor an entire market, download our pre-built financial models — or update your own with the latest data using Tegus’ new Excel Add-In. Tegus gives you all of this and more, all bundled into a single software license. Find out why 95% of the top 20 global private equity firms are Tegus customers. Learn more and get your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Art of Investing is a property of Pine Grove Studios in collaboration with Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Art of Investing, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes (00:00:00) - Welcome to The Art of Investing (00:05:32) - The Philosophy Behind Glenstone's Creation (00:12:57) - Benchmarking and Continuous Improvement: Lessons from Danaher and Glenstone (00:21:22) - The Influence of Mitch’s Father and Upbringing (00:28:43) - Transforming Danaher During The George Sherman (00:30:39) - Embracing Long-Term Vision and Patience (00:36:47) - The Role of Leadership in Navigating Change (00:42:21) - Danaher's Evolutionary Journey: From 1.0 to 4.0 (00:56:37) - Building a Culture of Internal Growth and External Innovation (00:58:42) - The Art of Successful Acquisitions and Integration Strategies (01:03:03) - Seeking Leadership Qualities and Business Traits for Long-Term Success (01:06:14) - The Journey from Personal Experience to Philanthropy (01:13:10) - Investment Philosophy: Concentration vs. Diversification (01:29:46) - Operational Expertise as a Catalyst for Company Growth (01:34:17) - Identifying and Supporting Talent in Business (01:43:02) - The Impact of Secular Trends on Long-Term Investments (01:49:53) - Revitalizing the Washington Commanders (01:57:36) - Engaging with Fans and Building a Winning Culture (02:05:16) - The Importance of Long-Term Vision

    Marc Lasry - Making Bucks in Credit and Sports - [Invest Like the Best, EP.371]

    Marc Lasry - Making Bucks in Credit and Sports - [Invest Like the Best, EP.371]
    My guest this week is Marc Lasry. Marc is a pioneer of distressed debt investing and the CEO of Avenue Capital Group, which he co-founded with his sister in 1995. Avenue manages $13 billion today. More recently, Marc and Avenue have become active investors in sport. He owned the Milwaukee Bucks when they won the NBA championship in 2021, and has since made investments in sports as diverse as sailing and bull-riding. In our discussion, we talk about his journey building a big investing firm, the evolution of distressed investing, and the opportunities in sport today. Marc shares some great stories throughout about travelling with President Clinton, winning the NBA championship, and raising his first fund. Please enjoy this great conversation with Marc Lasry. Listen to Founders Podcast For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Tegus, the only investment research platform built for fundamental investors. Whether you’re trying to get up to speed on a new market or keep tabs on a portfolio company, Tegus is the end-to-end investment research platform you need. With Tegus, you can quickly understand a company's business model, drivers, benchmarks, and management quality. To monitor an entire market, download our pre-built financial models — or update your own with the latest data using Tegus’ new Excel Add-In. Tegus gives you all of this and more, all bundled into a single software license. Find out why 95% of the top 20 global private equity firms are Tegus customers. Learn more and get your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more. Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes: (00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like The Best (00:03:40) Marc Lasry's Early Confidence and Competence (00:06:03) Distressed Credit Evolution and the Allure of Sports Investing (00:08:15) The Milwaukee Bucks: A Championship and Investment Success Story (00:14:54) Exploring New Frontiers: Bull Riding and Women's NCA (00:18:33) Venturing into Sailing with Larry Ellison's League (00:22:27) The Economics of Sports Team Ownership (00:25:19) The Vast Universe of Sports-Related Investment Opportunities (00:29:36) The Evolution of Distressed Investing (00:34:05 The Common Thread Through Marc’s Business Endeavors (00:40:24) Marc’s Most Memorable Investment (Not Including The Bucks) (00:43:40) The Dynamics of Working with Family in Business (00:45:32) Finding Happiness and Perspective Amid Financial Success (00:51:03) Diving into the World of NBA Owners (00:55:19) Exploring New Ventures: Sports, Real Estate, and Beyond (00:59:03) The Art of Deal-Making and Navigating Risks (01:06:10) The Kindest Thing Anyone Has Ever Done for Marc