PPP 244 | (Video) How Do You Deal With Endings?

Summary

In this episode, Andy interviews Ben Guttmann about his book, Simply Put: Why Clear Messages Win and How to Design Them. They discuss how to design and deliver messages that not only capture attention but also evoke meaningful responses. They delve into concepts like simplicity, fluency, and minimal messaging. Ben demonstrates how linguistic complexity can impact a message's success. Additionally, he shares practical examples, shedding light on how to make your communication more effective, regardless of your role in a project. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of clear and effective communication in all aspects of life and work.

Chapters

• 00:00 Introduction
• 01:49 Start of Interview
• 02:10 Defining the Book in Two Sentences
• 03:53 What Does It Mean to Be Simple?
• 04:30 How About Fluency?
• 09:54 They Don't Want The Drill, They Want the Hole
• 12:20 How Constraints Can Actually Help You
• 18:11 The Biggest No-Brainer in the Book
• 23:23 Removing Fluff
• 27:27 About Using Big Words
• 29:03 How AI Can Help
• 32:00 Interview Wrap Up
• 32:37 Andy Comments After the Interview
• 36:04 Outtakes

Learn More

You can learn more about Ben and his book at BenGuttmann.com.

If you’d like more on this subject, here are some episodes to check out:

• Episode 378, with Bill McGowan, about saying it right the first time
• Episode 349, with Tina Kuhn, on how to communicate with different personalities
• Episode 342, with Krister Ungerbock about his book TalkShifts--how simple changes to what we say can make a difference
• Episode 195, with Celeste Headlee about her book We Need to Talk

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Talent Triangle: Power Skills

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Summary

In this episode, Andy interviews Tara Miller, a successful project manager and the founder of Artemis, a management consulting business. Tara shares her journey into project management and highlights the misconceptions about the role. She also discusses important lessons she has learned about leading people and delivering projects.

Tara emphasizes the significance of building strong team dynamics and fostering individual connections. She provides practical management practices for leading and delivering projects, such as getting to know team members individually, creating team dynamics, and establishing a shared purpose. She also reflects on her personal journey to success, emphasizing the value of hard work and the support of others.

Lastly, Tara provides advice for working parents and highlights the benefits of embracing chaos and taking risks. In the outtakes, Andy and Tara discuss the role of AI in project management and the potential impact on the future of work.

Chapters

• 00:00 Introduction
• 01:29 Start of Interview
• 01:51 Tara's Journey to Project Management
• 04:49 Misunderstandings about Project Management
• 06:50 Lessons about Leading People and Delivering Projects
• 09:27 The Project Schedule is the Schedule for How the Project Will Not Occur
• 11:12 Practical Management Practices for Leading and Delivering Projects
• 16:24 POP: Personal Operating Profile
• 19:27 Corporate Mood Ring
• 20:29 Some of the Biggest People-Related Challenges
• 22:38 Navigating Change and Stakeholder Management
• 25:31 Lessons About Being a Successful Woman in Project Management
• 31:24 Thriving as a Working Parent
• 38:02 Interview Wrap Up
• 38:27 Andy Comments After the Interview
• 40:49 Outtakes

Learn More

You can learn more about Tara at ArtemisFactor.com. The Personal Operating Profile (POP) service that Tara mentions is available at HelloLLUNA.com/MakeAPOP.

AI for Project Managers and Leaders

With the constant stream of AI news, it's sometimes hard to grasp how these advancements can benefit us as project managers and leaders in our day-to-day work. That's why I developed our e-learning course: AI Made Simple: A Practical Guide to Using AI in Your Everyday Work.

This self-guided course is designed for project managers and leaders aiming to harness AI's potential to enhance your work, streamline your workflow, and boost your productivity.

Go to ai.i-leadonline.com to learn more and join us. The feedback from the program has been fantastic. Take this opportunity to unlock the potential of AI for your team and projects.

Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast!

Talent Triangle: Ways of Working

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Summary

In this episode, Andy Kaufman interviews Gil Broza about his new book, Deliver Better Results: How to Unlock Your Organization's Potential. They discuss the importance of systems thinking in value delivery and the six aspects of system fitness. Gil shares practical strategies for improving value delivery and emphasizes the significance of mindset over tactics. He also provides examples of successful transformations and offers resources available on the book's website.

Takeaways

• Value delivery should be viewed as a system, not a collection of practices.
• Systems thinking helps identify the cause and effect relationships within a value delivery system.
• Understanding the effects of choices and actions is crucial for making informed decisions.
• The Square model provides a framework for assessing system fitness and improving value delivery.
• Successful transformations require a sequential and incremental approach, focusing on mindset and values.
• Resources on the book's website offer additional support for implementing the strategies discussed.

Chapters

• 00:00 Introduction
• 02:22 Start of Interview
• 03:18 Understanding the Value Delivery System
• 04:13 Key Ideas from Systems Thinking
• 07:05 Avoiding Oversimplification in Cause and Effect
• 08:03 Considering the Effects of Choices and Actions
• 10:30 Introducing the Square Model
• 11:55 The Six Aspects of System Fitness
• 13:50 The Backstory of the Square Model
• 19:04 Sequential and Incremental Strategies for Improvement
• 21:25 The Importance of Mindset in Change
• 22:52 Differentiating Values and Beliefs
• 25:16 The Significance of Mindset over Tactics
• 28:08 Helping People Navigate Change
• 29:47 The Role of Fear in Change
• 30:05 The Concept of 'Committed, but not Attached'
• 32:41 Case Study: Agile Transformation in a Startup
• 39:17 Andy Comments After the Interview
• 42:32 Outtakes

Learn More

You can learn more about Gil and his book at DeliverBetterResultsBook.com. The free chapter that Gil mentioned is available at HeardOnPodcast.DeliverBetterResultsBook.com.

No Freaking Idea!

Do you know someone who is in college or maybe recently graduated?

My experience is there are a growing number of people who dread being asked the question, “So, what’s the plan?” When it comes to their career, they have no freaking idea!

I bring this up because we have a course entitled just that: No Freaking Idea: How to Navigate Career Uncertaity. It’s a career guide for people who don’t know what they want to do, and it has been so fun to hear the feedback on the course.

Whether it’s you who is wondering about next steps in your career or a son or daughter and you'd like to give them this as a gift, learn more by going to NoFreakingIdea.courses. Thanks!

Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast!

Talent Triangle: Ways of Working

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Summary

In this episode, Andy interviews author Anne Morris about key concepts from her book Move Fast and Fix Things: The Trusted Leader's Guide to Solving Hard Problems. She emphasizes the importance of building trust and moving fast in change initiatives. Morris introduces the FIX Map, which illustrates the relationship between trust and speed. She also explores the significance of inclusion and the power of storytelling in driving successful change. Additionally, Morris addresses common misconceptions about speed and shares insights on applying Agile principles to change management.

Chapters

• 00:00 Introduction
• 02:25 Start of Interview
• 02:44 Discussion on the Phrase 'Move Fast and Break Things'
• 04:18 Introduction to the FIX Map Model
• 12:30 The Trust Triangle
• 15:19 Looking at Change Through Different Eyes
• 21:10 The Role of Storytelling in Change Initiatives
• 26:10 Overcoming Skepticism and Maintaining Focus
• 27:26 The Dangers of Delay and the Need for Action
• 29:40 The Influence of Agile Principles in Leadership
• 34:04 The Intersection of Leadership and Parenting
• 35:57 Andy Comments After the Interview
• 39:26 Outtakes

Learn More

You can learn more about Anne and her book at AnneAndFrances.com. And catch her TEDx Talk at https://www.ted.com/talks/anne_morriss_5_steps_to_fix_any_problem_at_work.

If you’d like more on this topic, check out my discussion with Anne's co-author Frances Frei in episode 294 where we talk about their book Unleashed.

AI for Project Managers and Leaders

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Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast!

Talent Triangle: Power Skills

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Summary

In this episode, Andy Kaufman interviews Kayla McGuire, a seasoned project manager and coach who runs a boot camp to help people learn and prepare for becoming a freelancer. They discuss Kayla's journey to project management and freelancing, lessons in leading projects, practical tips for running projects, reasons for pursuing freelancing, common mistakes in freelancing, and the importance of mentors. Kayla also shares insights on using LinkedIn effectively and the value of continual learning and personal development. The episode concludes with information about Kayla's freelancer boot camp.

Takeaways

• Consider the possibility of freelancing or becoming an entrepreneur to experience more fulfillment and freedom in your career.
• Recognize patterns in team dynamics and use pattern recognition to lead teams through projects more effectively.
• Empower your teams to get the job done by having conversations about their goals, providing resources for learning and development, and building strong relationships through one-on-one meetings.
• When considering freelancing, focus your energy on building your network and finding clients rather than spending time on non-essential tasks like website design or office remodeling.

Chapters

• 00:00 Andy's Introduction to the Episode
• 01:57 Start of Interview
• 02:09 Kayla's Path to Project Management and Freelancing
• 06:00 Lessons in Leading Projects
• 12:06 The Lure of Freelancing: Freedom and Autonomy
• 15:03 Common Mistakes When Starting Freelancing
• 17:07 Introducing the Freelancer Bootcamp
• 19:10 The Importance of Finding Your Niche
• 19:39 Leveraging LinkedIn for Success
• 24:18 Continual Learning and Personal Development
• 31:05 Balancing Work and Personal Life
• 32:56 Final Thoughts

Learn More

You can learn more about Kayla and her boot camp at KaylaMcGuire.com. And connect with Kayla on LinkedIn at LinkedIn.com/in/KaylaMcGuire.

Gift a Loved One a Head Start With Their Career

Do you know someone dealing with career uncertainty?

My experience is there are a growing number of people who dread being asked the question, “So, what’s the plan?” When it comes to their career, they have no freaking idea!

I bring this up because I want you to check out our new course entitled just that: No Freaking Idea: How to Navigate Career Uncertainty. It’s a career guide for people who don’t know what they want to do, and it has been so fun to hear the feedback on the course.

Whether you are wondering about the next steps in your career or it's a son or daughter and you'd like to give them a head start as a gift, learn more by going to NoFreakingIdea.courses. Thanks!

Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast!

Talent Triangle: Business Acumen

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Summary

In this in-depth discussion, Andy is joined by Eduardo Briceño, author of The Performance Paradox: Turning the Power of Mindset Into Action, to delve into the concepts of a growth mindset versus a fixed mindset. The conversation covers how these mindsets are not as binary or mutually exclusive as we may think, but rather can be found within us at different times and in different contexts. The theme of maintaining a balance between having a growth mindset, which holds the belief in the potential for change and improvement, and knowing when to lean into a fixed mindset, is explored. Eduardo advises on how to apply deliberate practice to improve performance and suggests viewing ourselves as evolving and changing.

Chapters

• 00:00 Introduction
• 02:00 Start of Interview
• 02:09 Eduardo's Personal Journey and the Performance Paradox
• 04:29 Understanding the Performance Paradox
• 04:33 The Difference Between Learning and Performing
• 13:40 The Misconception of the 10,000 Hour Rule
• 16:51 Understanding the Growth Mindset
• 22:44 Applying Growth Mindset to Personal Goals
• 24:25 The Role of Identity in Growth Mindset
• 27:15 Creating a Learning Zone in Teams
• 32:23 Implementing Growth Mindset in Parenting
• 35:51 Andy's Comments About the Interview
• 40:00 Outtakes

Learn More

You can learn more about Eduardo and his book at Briceno.com. And catch his TEDx Talk at https://www.ted.com/talks/eduardo_briceno_how_to_get_better_at_the_things_you_care_about.

If you’d like more on this topic, check out:

• Episode 202, Morten Hansen, Great at Work
• Episode 236, Amy Edmondson about her book on Psychological Safety
• Episode 240, Jim Detert, also about psychological safety

Gift a Loved One a Head Start With Their Career

Do you know someone dealing with career uncertainty?

My experience is there are a growing number of people who dread being asked the question, “So, what’s the plan?” When it comes to their career, they have no freaking idea!

I bring this up because I want you to check out our new course entitled just that: No Freaking Idea: How to Navigate Career Uncertainty. It’s a career guide for people who don’t know what they want to do, and it has been so fun to hear the feedback on the course.

Whether you are wondering about the next steps in your career or it's a son or daughter and you'd like to give them a head start as a gift, learn more by going to NoFreakingIdea.courses. Thanks!

Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast!

Talent Triangle: Power Skills

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Summary

In this conversation, Andy Kaufman interviews Micah Solomon, author of the book Can Your Customer Service Do This? Create an Anticipatory Customer Experience that Builds Loyalty Forever. They discuss the importance of customer service and how it applies to project managers and leaders, not just people in hospitality or retail. They explore examples of good and bad customer service experiences, debunk myths about customer service, and provide strategies for improving customer service. They also discuss the concept of gold touch customer service and how it can be applied to internal customer service. The conversation concludes with insights on effective communication and developing a customer service mindset.

Takeaways

• Customer service is important in all industries, not just hospitality or retail.
• Examples of good and bad customer service can provide valuable insights for improving customer service.
• There are common myths and misunderstandings about customer service that need to be debunked.
• Gold touch customer service involves going above and beyond to provide exceptional service.
• Effective communication and a customer service mindset are key to delivering great customer service.

Chapters

• 00:00 Andy's Intro to the Episode
• 02:40 Introduction to Micah Solomon and his book
• 04:46 Myths and Misunderstandings about Customer Service
• 06:12 Improving Customer Service
• 09:28 Gold Touch Customer Service
• 10:51 Internal Customer Service
• 13:44 Difference between Function and Purpose
• 18:19 The Service Recovery Paradox
• 20:15 Dealing with Customer Service Failures
• 21:21 Phrasing and Language in Customer Service
• 25:02 Developing a Customer Service Mindset
• 27:00 Andy's Summary of Key Takeaways
• 32:03 Outtakes

You can learn more about Micah and his book at MicahSolomon.com.

Gift a Loved One a Head Start With Their Career

Do you know someone who is in college or maybe recently graduated?

My experience is there are a growing number of people who dread being asked the question, “So, what’s the plan?” When it comes to their career, they have no freaking idea!

I bring this up because I want you to check out our new course entitled just that: No Freaking Idea: How to Navigate Career Uncertainty. It’s a career guide for people who don’t know what they want to do, and it has been so fun to hear the feedback on the course.

Whether you are wondering about the next steps in your career or it's a son or daughter and you'd like to give them a head start as a gift, learn more by going to NoFreakingIdea.courses. Thanks!

Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast!

Talent Triangle: Power Skills

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Summary

In this episode, Andy Kaufman celebrates the 400th episode of the People in Projects Podcast with special guest Adam Grant. They discuss Adam's new book, Hidden Potential, and the importance of assessing and unlocking potential in individuals.

The conversation covers various topics, including keeping projects on track, the truth about hiring based on experience, a lesson Adam learned about feedback that he's a terrible writer, and overcoming criticism. Adam reflects on the past and future, including what he misses (and doesn't miss) about being Adam Grant in 2010 (when Andy and Adam first talked). 

Takeaways

• Assessing and unlocking potential is crucial in various aspects of life, and the judgments people make of our potential can have a significant impact.
• Perfectionism can hinder progress, and it is important to separate our identity from our work.
• The value of experience in hiring is often overestimated, and potential should be prioritized over years of experience.
• Saying no and setting boundaries is essential to avoid overcommitment and maintain focus on important projects.
• Even if initially difficult, receiving feedback can lead to valuable insights and improvements.
• A practical AI chatbot use case that Adam tries
• Expressing appreciation to those who have seen and nurtured our potential is important, and we should also assess the potential of others and encourage their growth.

You can learn more about Adam and his book at AdamGrant.net.

For More on This Topic

To catch Andy's previous conversations with Adam, check out:

• Episode 31, where we talk about leading teams with meaning, and
• Episode 93, where we talk about his book Give and Take

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Celebration
02:50 Start of the Interview
03:12 What are You Glad is Getting Attention / Thought Would Get More Attention in Your Book
03:52 Lessons on Keeping Projects on Track
04:46 Something People Think Is True But Is Not Supported With Evidence
05:45 How Adam Decides on Saying Yes or No
06:16 How Does Adam Calm Nerves
07:27 You Suck at Writing, Adam! How to Receive Feedback and Overcome Criticism
08:37 What Adam Recently Used a Chatbot For
09:26 What Does Adam Miss About Being Him in 2010 / Not Miss
10:26 What Would You Ask Future Adam?
11:39 Adam Takes Over as the Host
12:50 Adam Asks About Podcasting
14:07 Adam Says Nice Things About Andy
16:04 Andy Comments after the Interview
20:19 Outtakes from Before We Started the Interview
21:32 Sample Intro from Episode 1 (Man, it was bad!)

Gift a Loved One a Head Start With Their Career

Do you know someone who is in college or maybe recently graduated?

My experience is there are a growing number of people who dread being asked the question, “So, what’s the plan?” When it comes to their career, they have no freaking idea!

I bring this up because I want you to check out our new course entitled just that: No Freaking Idea: How to Navigate Career Uncertainty. It’s a career guide for people who don’t know what they want to do, and it has been so fun to hear the feedback on the course.

Whether you are wondering about the next steps in your career or it's a son or daughter and you'd like to give them a head start as a gift, learn more by going to NoFreakingIdea.courses. Thanks!

Thank you for joining me for this anniversary episode of The People and Projects Podcast!

Talent Triangle: Power Skills

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Summary

In this conversation, Andy interviews Doug Lennick and Chuck Wachendorfer about their book Don't Wait for Someone Else to Fix It! They discuss the importance of managing ourselves effectively, practicing self-awareness, and mastering our behavior. They also emphasize the significance of integrity and responsibility in leadership. The conversation explores barriers to better decision-making and the importance of continuous learning. The interview concludes with insights on how parents can apply leadership lessons in their role at home.

Takeaways

• Managing ourselves effectively is crucial for effective leadership.
• Practicing self-awareness and using tools like the freeze game can help us make better choices.
• Integrity and responsibility are essential for leadership success.
• Emotional reflexiveness and biases can hinder decision-making.
• Continuous learning and letting go of what we know are key to personal and professional growth.
• Leadership lessons can be applied in the home to foster better relationships and decision-making.

You can learn more about Doug and Chuck and their work at Think2Perform.com.

For More on This Topic

For more on this topic, check out:

• Episode 391, with Adam Bryant on his book about making the leap to leadership
• Episode 366, with Michael Timms on his book about accountability, and
• Episode 292, with Jeffrey Scott Miller about his book on leadership.

Gift a Loved One a Head Start With Their Career

Do you know someone who is in college or maybe recently graduated?

My experience is there are a growing number of people who dread being asked the question, “So, what’s the plan?” When it comes to their career, they have no freaking idea!

I bring this up because I want you to check out our new course entitled just that: No Freaking Idea: How to Navigate Career Uncertainty. It’s a career guide for people who don’t know what they want to do, and it has been so fun to hear the feedback on the course.

Whether you are wondering about the next steps in your career or it's a son or daughter and you'd like to give them a head start as a gift, learn more by going to NoFreakingIdea.courses. Thanks!

Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast!

Talent Triangle: Power Skills

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Project Manager Burnout

There is so much focus these days on getting more done with less. Delivering faster. Increasing efficiency. Being excellent at work while rocking it all well at home too, right? And though I’m all for staying focused and productive, here’s something I’ve observed. One consequence of trying to stay hyper-productive and being everything you can possibly be--or feel like you should be--can be increased stress. Less downtime. More hours. More caffeine. Less sleep. And all of that can lead to burnout.

So what can we do about that? Today I’m excited to introduce you to Dr. Neha Sangwan. She’s the author of a new book entitled  Powered by Me: From Burned Out to Fully Charged at Work and in Life.

In this episode, you’ll get a better idea of what leads to burnout, beyond just the typical drivers that come to mind, such as physical exhaustion. Neha provides practical ideas and techniques to help us catch when we’re starting to drift towards burnout. It's a discussion I've been looking forward to sharing with you!

You can learn more about Neha and her work at NehaSangwan.com.

For more on this topic, check out:

• Episodes 106 and 132, with Tom Rath about his books on these themes.
• Episode 395, with Josefine Campbell about her book on helping when you and your team are low on energy, and
• Episode 397, with Dr. Julia DiGangi about her book on emotions.

Gift a Loved One a Head Start With Their Career

Do you know someone who is in college or maybe recently graduated?

My experience is there are a growing number of people who dread being asked the question, “So, what’s the plan?” When it comes to their career, they have no freaking idea!

I bring this up because I want you to check out our new course entitled just that: No Freaking Idea: How to Navigate Career Uncertainty. It’s a career guide for people who don’t know what they want to do, and it has been so fun to hear the feedback on the course.

Whether you are wondering about the next steps in your career or it's a son or daughter and you'd like to give them a head start as a gift, learn more by going to NoFreakingIdea.courses. Thanks!

Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast!

Talent Triangle: Power Skills

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