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    Protocol Wars - The Fediverse Explained!

    enAugust 27, 2024
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    • Autonomous VehiclesPeople's interest in AVs increases significantly after learning about Waymo's advanced perception technology, safety records, and potential benefits for marginalized communities. AVs have fewer injury and property damage claims than human drivers, making them an attractive option for pet owners and others seeking peace of mind.

      As people learn more about autonomous vehicles (AVs) from companies like Waymo, their interest in choosing an AV over a human-driven vehicle increases significantly. Waymo's advanced perception technology, which allows it to see 360 degrees and up to 300 meters away, helps it obey traffic laws and ensure safety. Additionally, studies show that AVs have fewer injury claims and property damage claims compared to human drivers. Interestingly, groups such as the LGBTQIA and non-binary community and women showed the highest interest in AVs after learning more about the technology. AVs are becoming more accessible and exciting as people gain knowledge about their capabilities. For pet owners, Fetch pet insurance offers more coverage and savings compared to other providers, ensuring peace of mind for unexpected vet bills. In the tech world, the Fediverse and its protocol wars between ActivityPub and the At protocol are currently being fought, with no clear winner yet. The social graph, or the network of users on a social media platform, plays a crucial role in keeping users engaged and preventing mass defection to new platforms. Despite Elon Musk's acquisition and changes to Twitter (now X), no clear successor has emerged, highlighting the importance of user engagement and critical mass for a social media platform's longevity.

    • Decentralized social media platformsDecentralized social media platforms like the Fediverse aim to challenge centralized platforms by removing corporate control and allowing users to keep their connections and ways of interacting, using protocols like Activity Pub and AT.

      The current state of social media, particularly centralized platforms like Facebook and Instagram, is being questioned due to their heavy reliance on AI-generated content and potential manipulation. The discussion also touched upon the emergence of decentralized social media platforms, like the Fediverse, which aim to change the way we interact online by removing the power from corporations and making these platforms compete for user engagement. The analogy of solar systems and planets was used to explain the current landscape of new social media platforms, with some having enough mass to become successful and others falling apart. The Activity Pub and AT protocols are two leading protocols that could make federated social media a reality, allowing users to keep their connections and ways of interacting regardless of the platform they use. It's important to understand these protocols and their histories to make informed decisions about their potential.

    • Fediverse vs Social WebThe resistance to the term 'Fediverse' highlights the importance of clear communication and understanding potential negative associations when coining new terms. Open standards like Activity Pub could lead to a more interconnected social media landscape, allowing users to interact across different platforms.

      The tech industry's love for coining new terms can sometimes lead to confusion and resistance, especially when those terms have existing meanings in other contexts. This was evident in the case of the term "Fediverse," which is a portmanteau of "federation" and "metaverse," but has been met with resistance due to the negative associations some people have with the word "federation" from science fiction. This resistance has led some to propose alternative terms, like "social web." The history of social media platforms also shows that while the backing of a major player like Google can help smaller services flourish, the lack of such support can lead to challenges. For instance, the short-lived Google Buzz microblogging service, which aimed to be an open social network, faced significant backlash due to privacy concerns and security oversights. Despite these challenges, efforts are being made to develop open standards for social media, such as the Activity Pub protocol, which aims to enable interoperability between different social media platforms. This could lead to a more open and connected social media landscape, where users can interact across different platforms as easily as they can send emails across different email servers.

    • Social Network InterconnectednessThe interconnectedness of social networks in the Fediverse allows for a more seamless transition between platforms and a superior user experience, but a new platform needs a critical mass of users to truly challenge the giants.

      The interconnectedness of different social networks and platforms in the Fediverse allows for a more seamless transition between them, making it easier for users to switch without losing their social graph. This is due to the implementation of features like threading on Mastodon, which allows users to follow and engage with each other regardless of which platform they're on. However, for a new platform to truly challenge the giants, it needs to offer not only a superior user experience but also a critical mass of users. The potential for account portability and the interconnectedness of various platforms in the Fediverse provide a promising foundation for the future of the social web. Ultimately, understanding the context of the current social media landscape and the potential of these emerging technologies is essential to navigating the ever-evolving digital social sphere.

    • Decentralized social mediaThe rise of decentralized social media platforms and interoperable protocols like Activity Pub offer an opportunity to create a more open and unified social web, with potential implications for how we use and interact with social media.

      The rise of decentralized social media platforms like Mastodon, and the adoption of protocols like Activity Pub, represent a shift towards a more open and interoperable social web. This movement gained momentum with events like the Gamer Gate harassment scandal and the Cambridge Analytica data breach, leading many to seek alternatives to centralized platforms. Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter further amplified these calls, resulting in a surge of interest in decentralized social media. Meta's decision to support Activity Pub with the launch of Threads was a surprising development, indicating a recognition of the value of interoperability and the potential for decentralized social media to offer something different from traditional walled gardens. The Open Social Web represents an opportunity for platforms to tear down the walls around their services and become part of a larger, unified ecosystem. This shift could have profound implications for how we use and interact with social media, and could lead to a more open, interconnected web.

    • Meta's federated social networksMeta is exploring federated social networks through ActivityPub to expand reach, potentially challenge competitors, and offer creators the ability to take their followership with them, while addressing privacy and regulatory concerns through an opt-in approach.

      Meta, formerly Facebook, is exploring federated social networks through ActivityPub to expand its reach and potentially challenge established incumbents like Twitter. This strategy allows Meta to partner with various companies and platforms, increasing its user base and potential value. However, privacy and regulatory concerns make a full integration of all users an challenge, leading to an opt-in approach. This move towards decentralization and federation is seen as a long-term play to adapt to the evolving web and maintain relevance, while also offering creators the option to leave the platform and take their followership with them. The federated model also allows users to follow different versions of a person across various platforms, preserving the unique cultures of each social media site.

    • Fediverse and Blue SkyThe Fediverse and Blue Sky are decentralized social media networks that allow users to interoperate across different servers and potentially switch platforms with ease due to the use of common protocols, prioritizing user control and privacy.

      The Fediverse is a decentralized social media network where users can have multiple accounts across different servers, and they can all interoperate. It's like email where you can choose your hosting provider based on experience and additional features. The Fediverse uses a protocol called Activity Pub, which allows for cross-platform interaction, and in the future, users may be able to migrate their accounts and followers to different platforms with ease. However, the process of switching platforms is currently technical and not user-friendly. Blue Sky is another social media platform that aims to address some of the issues with centralized social media by creating a decentralized standard. The Fediverse and Blue Sky are part of a larger trend towards decentralized social media networks that prioritize user control and privacy.

    • AT protocol account portabilityThe AT protocol, led by Blue Sky Social, is an open-source decentralized social media protocol that enables account portability and interoperability between different platforms, giving users control over their data and social experience.

      The AT protocol, led by Blue Sky Social, is an open-source decentralized social media protocol designed for account portability and composability. Blue Sky, a company founded by Jay Graber, was chosen to lead the project after Twitter's spin-off as a public benefit LLC. The primary function of the AT protocol is to give users control over their social experience and access to their data across different platforms, without any individual company deciding what they see or when they see it. The protocol is currently being used by Blue Sky, but anyone can build on it. One of its key features is account portability, allowing users to take their data and followers with them to any service using the AT protocol. Blue Sky is building on the protocol to showcase its capabilities and encourage other companies to join. Bridget Fed, another project, aims to bridge different federated protocols, including the AT protocol, to make them interoperable. The decentralized social media space is still in its early days, but the potential of these protocols is generating excitement.

    • Decentralized social media momentumThe integration of Threads into the Fediverse network has exponentially increased the potential connections among users, bringing significant momentum to the decentralized social media movement.

      The recent integration of Threads, a popular social media app, into the Fediverse network has brought significant momentum to the decentralized social media movement. Although ActivityPub, the protocol used by the Fediverse, was not widely adopted before, Metcalf's Law suggests that the potential for connections among users exponentially increases the value of the network. With Threads now open to the public and embraced by a major platform, the number of potential connections within the Fediverse has grown substantially. ActivityPub and the AT protocol, another decentralized social media solution, have different approaches to achieving the same goal of removing consolidated power and giving users more control. ActivityPub focuses on allowing all sources of media to connect to a single firehose, while the AT protocol provides a piecemeal framework for building decentralized social networks with a single source of identity. Both aim to provide users with more autonomy over their social media experience. Despite the potential benefits, there are challenges, such as legal considerations and the need for clear communication about the implications of federation. Ultimately, these protocols represent different ideologies on how open social media should function, and it remains to be seen which one will dominate the future of decentralized social media. If you're interested in joining the new web movement, federating your Threads account is a step in the right direction.

    • Fediverse completionThe Fediverse, a decentralized network of social media platforms, is expected to complete the Federation process by the end of the year, allowing for seamless communication between different platforms, and is an intriguing development in the world of social media communication.

      The speakers in this conversation were discussing the concept of the Fediverse, a decentralized network of social media platforms. They were expressing their excitement about the potential completion of the Federation process by the end of the year, which would allow for seamless communication between different platforms. However, there was some confusion about a specific reference to a song and its connection to the topic at hand. Despite some misunderstandings, they all agreed that the Fediverse is an intriguing development in the world of social media and looked forward to its potential benefits. The speakers also acknowledged that they were all part of this decentralized network, and signed off with anticipation for the next episode. Overall, the conversation highlighted the excitement and curiosity surrounding the Fediverse and its potential impact on social media communication.

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