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    Those Boys is a podcast hosted by brothers Nathan and Zach Blaustone. Join them as they discuss their passion for music production, their experiences with religious trauma, and share some laughs along the way. With their unique perspectives and dynamic personalities, Nathan and Zach bring an engaging and entertaining take on a variety of topics. Our mission is to facilitate respectful conversations that promote growth, communication, healing, authenticity, and brotherhood. Tune in to Those Boys for thought-provoking discussions and a good time.

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    Moral Combat, hosted by siblings Nathan and Zach Blaustone, is a heartfelt exploration of life's complexities, with a primary focus on healing from religious trauma. Step into their world as they navigate the realms of music production, confront the lingering echoes of religious trauma, and embrace laughter as a universal healer. With each episode, Nathan and Zach weave together their unique perspectives, seasoned with dynamic personalities that make every discussion an engaging adventure. From unraveling the complexities of personal growth to fostering open communication, healing the scars of religious indoctrination, and embracing the unfiltered authenticity of siblinghood, Moral Combat is your passport to thought-provoking conversations, heartfelt insights, and the pure joy of shared moments. Join us in the combat for morality, one conversation at a time.

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    Forest Benedict:
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     Suicide Resources:

    For suicide prevention resources in Sonoma County, CA, and nationally, you have several options:

    Sonoma County Resources:

    Mental Health Crisis Services: Offers a 24-hour toll-free suicide prevention hotline for Sonoma County residents at (855) 587-6373, administered by the North Bay Suicide Prevention Program of Buckelew Programs.
     Sonoma County Crisis Line: Available 24/7 at (707) 576-8181. They also have a Crisis Stabilization Unit located at 2225 Challenger Way, Santa Rosa, CA 95407.
     Behavioral Health Division of Sonoma County: Offers a 24-hour Access Line at (707) 565-6900 or toll-free at 800-870-8786. Additionally, they provide a 24-hour Suicide Prevention Call or Text service at 988 or Chat at 988lifeline.org.
     
    National Resources:

    National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline: Call or text 988 or chat online at 988lifeline.org for 24/7 support .
    Veterans Crisis Line: Veterans can call 988 and press 1, text to 838255, or chat online for 24/7 support .
     Suicide Prevention Resource Center (SPRC): Offers a variety of resources and information on suicide prevention at sprc.org 

    Moral Combat, hosted by siblings Nathan and Zach Blaustone, is a heartfelt exploration of life's complexities, with a primary focus on healing from religious trauma. Step into their world as they navigate the realms of music production, confront the lingering echoes of religious trauma, and embrace laughter as a universal healer. With each episode, Nathan and Zach weave together their unique perspectives, seasoned with dynamic personalities that make every discussion an engaging adventure. From unraveling the complexities of personal growth to fostering open communication, healing the scars of religious indoctrination, and embracing the unfiltered authenticity of siblinghood, Moral Combat is your passport to thought-provoking conversations, heartfelt insights, and the pure joy of shared moments. Join us in the combat for morality, one conversation at a time.

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