Redefining God, Reason, and Freedom with D.C. Schindler and Ken Lowry

In this episode, John Vervaeke, Robert Gray, and Eric Orwell explore the intricacies of Plotinus, Neo-Platonism, and pure relationality. They meticulously analyze James Filler's thought-provoking paper, viewing its ideas through Heidegger's philosophy and the essence of language. The concept of pure relationality and its impact on our understanding of reality is thoroughly examined, highlighting key themes such as the One, sacredness, and ethical dimensions. Diverse perspectives are brought into dialogue, and traditional views are critically assessed, as the guests reconstruct philosophical concepts for the contemporary world. The episode offers both grounding exercises and detailed analysis, taking listeners on a journey through ancient wisdom to discover its relevance in addressing today's challenges.

 

Eric Orwoll is a Christian Platonist philosopher and the creator of the Understanding Platonism and Aarvoll YouTube channels.

 

Robert Gray is the creator of The Meditating Philosopher YouTube channel.

 

Glossary of Terms

 

Relational Ontology: The philosophical study that posits relations rather than substances as the fundamental constituents of reality.

Neoplatonism: A philosophical system that emphasizes the spiritual and metaphysical aspects of reality, drawing on Plato's ideas.

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Eric Orwoll

YouTube:

Understanding Plato: https://www.youtube.com/@understandingplato1134/

Aarvoll: https://www.youtube.com/@ericorwoll/

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Robert Gray

Email: meditatingphilosopher@gmail.com

YouTUbe: www.youtube.com/@TheMeditatingPhilosopher

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Books, Articles, and Publications

• The One as Pure Relation in Plotinus - Filler, James (2019). International Journal of the Platonic Tradition https://brill.com/view/journals/jpt/13/1/article-p1_1.xml

• Heidegger, Neoplatonism, and the History of Being: Relation as Ontological Ground - James Filler 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/3031309065

• The Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe: A New Kind of Reality Theory - Christopher Langan https://www.amazon.com/Cognitive-Theoretic-Model-Universe-Reality-Theory/dp/0971916225

• Essential Difference: Toward a Metaphysics of Emergence - James Blachowicz https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Difference-Toward-Metaphysics-Emergence/dp/1438443323

Quotes 

 

"It reminded me of the attitude towards language in the Platonic dialogues, where Socrates moves into something more poetic, almost verse. There's that shift between prosaic, dialectical investigation and mytho-poetic, dreamlike exposition. That's interesting; I've identified those mythic sections often contain the deepest insights about the nature of reality." - Eric Orwoll [00:07:06]

 

"It helped to explain how and why those two are non logically one. That gave me a profound aha. Then, the critique of substance in the Aristotelian sense, where the subject predicate nature of logic and language is the same fundamental structure of reality, reality is made up of independently existing things that contain properties or enter into action." - John Vervaeke [00:16:00]

Chapters 

 

[00:00:00] - Introduction and Grounding Exercise

[00:03:20] - Overview of James Filler's Work

[00:08:20] - Theological Poetic Language and Plato's Ontology

[00:12:40] - Hemispheric Approaches to Reasoning

[00:14:07] - John's Personal and Philosophical Reflections on Filler's Work

[00:20:08] - Dissecting Filler's Arguments: Exegesis and Ontological Inquiry

[00:30:20] - Revisiting Relationality and Unity: Ethical and Ontological Nuances

[00:46:00] - Navigating Reality: From Illusion to Sacredness

[00:52:56] - Tradition and Global Spirituality

[01:04:56] - Bridging Metaphysical Necessity and Cognitive Pluralism

[01:15:08] - A Philosophical Inquiry into Forms and Instantiations

[01:23:18] - Final Thoughts and Future Conversations

 

In their second dialogue on "Voices with Vervaeke," John Vervaeke and Vivian Dittmar explore transrational thought, emotions, and transformative practices, embarking on a profound journey into human experience. Vivian introduces a map of five distinct sensations, illuminating the practice of conscious release for personal growth, emotional maturity, and integrating higher consciousness with shadow aspects. Their discussion delves into pre-rational, rational, and transrational modes of thought, emphasizing the importance of integrating various forms of thinking to navigate modern cognitive landscapes effectively. This intellectual and experiential exploration offers valuable perspectives on human consciousness, emotional work, and the potential of transrational thought to enrich our self-understanding and worldview.

 

Vivian Dittmar, a globally influenced author, speaker, and wisdom teacher, has dedicated two decades to enhancing holistic development. Her diverse upbringing inspired her to explore beyond conventional education, delving into various cultures' wisdom. Through her books and the Be the Change Foundation, Dittmar seeks to redefine prosperity, focusing on emotional intelligence, ecological sustainability, social justice, and spiritual fulfillment, aiming to address the crises facing modern society.

 

Glossary of Terms

Transrational: Going beyond or surpassing human reason or the rational; nonverbal; nonlinear; abstract.

Pre-rational: Preceding the development of intelligence.

Rational: A state of consciousness characterized by logical, linear, and verbal thinking.

Conscious Release: A practice developed by Vivian Dittmar that fosters the integration of higher states of consciousness with shadow aspects.

John Vervaeke

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Vivian Dittmar

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YouTube: https://youtube.com/@viviandittmareng

Resources:

 

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Voices with Veraeke: Exploring Emotions and Transrational Wisdom with Vivian Dittmar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQWLfOFe0lo

 

The Emotional Backpack: How to release unhealthy feelings - Vivian Dittmar https://viviandittmar.net/en/the-emotional-backpack-book/

 

Your Inner GPS: Find Clarity with the Five Ways of Thinking -  Vivian Dittmar https://viviandittmar.net/en/your-inner-gps-book/

 

Workshop: “How Big Is Your Emotional Backpack?” https://signup.lebensweise.net/free-backpack-workshop

 

Online Course: “The Emotional Backpack” ► https://campus.lebensweise.net/o/the-emotional-backpack-online-course/

 

Rational Intuition: Philosophical Roots, Scientific Investigations - Lisa Osbeck, Barbara Held https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Intuition-Philosophical-Scientific-Investigations/dp/1316621219

Quotes 

 

"One of the things that became really clear to me is that the transrational by nature has a very difficult stance in today's world because it speaks to us in a way that is nonverbal, nonlinear, abstract." - Vivian Dittmar [00:16:00]

 

“The ancient world had a whole faculty and term for nous and noesis, and that was all lost with the loss of our Neoplatonic heritage." - John Vervaeke [00:16:18]

 

"We have a transrational faculty that is also proactive, that is not receptive, and that's intention. It’s really challenging for people to understand in our cultural framework because we very quickly confuse intention with a goal." - Vivian Dittmar [00:57:43]

Chapters 

[00:00:00] - Introduction and Overview of the Poly Crisis and Emotional Intelligence 

[00:04:00] - Differentiating Sensations, Emotions, and Consciousness 

[00:11:13] - Pre-rational, Rational, and Transrational Distinctions

[00:25:00] - Intuition, Inspiration, and Transrational Wisdom

[00:38:45] - Heart Intelligence 

[00:47:50] - Reevaluating Rationality and Embracing Intuitive Integration for Decision-Making 

[00:56:17] - Intention and Shaping Agency in Transrational Knowing

[01:03:40] - Bridging Phenomenology, Transrational, and Transpersonal Dialogues

 

John Vervaeke and Seth Allison revisit the transformative realm of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy, building on their enriching dialogues from previous sessions. They unpack the intricate dynamics between the "self" and its various "parts," shedding light on how these elements can be harmonized for deep self-reflection and healing. The dialogue includes valuable insights and clarifications from Richard Schwartz, the creator of IFS, reinforcing the framework's compatibility with traditional psychological methods and its efficacy for safely navigating the inner self. The conversation evolves to explore the role of IFS in addressing the existential questions posed by the modern meaning crisis, highlighting its significance in cultivating wisdom and integrating the psychological with the spiritual. This episode stands as a testament to the synergy between cognitive science and philosophical inquiry, inviting listeners on a journey toward enlightenment, emotional resilience, and a richer engagement with their internal landscape.

 

Seth Allison is a renowned psychotherapist specializing in internal family systems (IFS) and its integration with traditional psychotherapy. With years of clinical practice, Seth brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the conversation, offering valuable insights into the therapeutic journey. 

Glossary of Terms

 

IFS (Internal Family Systems): A psychotherapeutic model that identifies and interacts with various sub-personalities or parts within each person's mental system.

Sapiential - relating to wisdom

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• The Others Within Us: Internal Family Systems, Porous Mind, and Spirit Possession - Robert Falconer 

https://www.amazon.com/Others-Within-Us-Internal-Possession/dp/B0C12JXVBJ/

• John Vervaeke on Mystical Experience and the Pursuit of Wisdom - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5_YRWrX3mw

Quotes 

 

"We have a moral obligation to ask what is a proper framework to bring to bear upon these experiences so that people can metabolize them and realize them as the cultivation of virtue and wisdom, and not spin them off into narcissism or inflation and go down rabbit holes of their own personal magical metaphysics." - Seth Allison (Quoting John Vervaeke) [00:37:16]

 

"It is more important, and the integration is in both of those dimensions. How well does it integrate with many domains broadly and deeply in your life? How well does it transform many levels, broadly and deeply, of the psyche? That's the integration. Our culture gives us precious little on both of those, and even more importantly, not only both of them, but how they are properly coordinated and speak to each other in a self-correcting fashion." - John Vervaeke [00:32:06]

Chapters 

 

[00:00:00] - Introduction and Background on IFS 

[00:01:00] - Corrections and Insights from Richard Schwartz

[00:06:00] - Deep Dive into IFS Concepts

[00:14:45] - Addressing the Modern Meaning Crisis 

[00:18:00] - Spiritual Rediscovery and Transformation

[00:40:00] - IFS Practice Session

[01:14:00] - Reflecting on the Session's Impact

[01:33:10] - Closing Reflections and Workshop Announcement

 

Join John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall on a thought-provoking journey into faith and meaning. Beyond mere intellectual debate, they delve into the heart of Christian virtues, the transformative potential of the imaginal, and the profound depths of dialogue. Through their respectful and insightful exchange, they navigate complex themes such as love, relationality, and the richness of the imaginal realm, illuminating how engagement with diverse spiritual traditions can deepen understanding and faith. John and Jordan provide actionable insights for personal and collective growth, presenting an open invitation for introspection of beliefs, fostering an environment for meaningful engagement, and unlocking the potential for true transformation. This conversation offers a unique opportunity to discover the complexities of faith and meaning, along with pathways to enrich spiritual and intellectual lives.

 

Jordan Hall, a pioneering figure at the forefront of societal transformation, co-founded MP3.com and DivX, catalyzing revolutions in music and online video. His ventures, such as Neurohacker Collective and Civium Project, harness cutting-edge technology and deep philosophical insights to address the metacrisis facing humanity. Currently, as Executive Chairman of Qualia Lifesciences, he leads efforts in human optimization, embodying the ethos of the fellowship of the spirit and inspiring profound dialogues on reimagining the future.

Glossary of Terms

 

Dialogos: A form of dialogue aimed at transcending mere conversation to reach deeper understanding and connection.

Imaginal: Pertaining to a mode of perception that transcends the purely sensory, engaging with symbols and the deeper aspects of reality.

Christian Virtues: Fundamental qualities valued in Christianity, such as faith, hope, and love.

 

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Jordan Hall

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMzT-mdCqoyEv_-YZVtE7MQ 

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Books, Articles, Videos, and Publications

• Mere Christianity - C. S. Lewis https://www.amazon.com/Mere-Christianity-C-S-Lewis/dp/0060652926

• The Courage to Be - Paul Tillich https://www.amazon.com/Courage-Be-Paul-Tillich/dp/0300084714

• Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad https://www.amazon.com/Heart-Darkness-Joseph-Conrad/dp/1936594145

• Boden, Margaret. (2009). Creativity in a nutshell. Think. 5. 83-96. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/209436199_Creativity_in_a_nutshell

• The Psychological Drivers of the Metacrisis John Vervaeke, Iain McGilchrist, Daniel Schmachtenberger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7i1ughRGcQ

• Embodiment and the Metacrisis with Rafe Kelley https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVJztMRSeek&t=307s

Quotes 

 

"Make ourselves vehicles and instruments, both. That's something that's capable both of holding and expressing. So, I am the life and the light, and I am the way. Not the destination, not the end of the journey, but the way."​​ - Jordan Hall [00:44:11]

 

"The invitation to take up your cross and bear it, to step through the crucifixion of the human nature, must, in fact, be voluntarily self-crucified, and human will must surrender itself into a sort of a divine coupling. That's the stepping through of the win-lose into the win-win."​​ - Jordan Hall [01:20:00]

 

Chapters 

 

00:03:00 - Christian Virtues and the Imaginal: A Journey into Spiritual Depth

00:20:00 - The Power of Transformative Dialogue: Unity and Deepening Faith

00:28:00 - Bridging Divides: The Quest for Global Unity and Transcendent Communication

00:52:00 - Faith's Duality: Wholesomeness Versus Completeness

01:05:00 - Encountering Sacredness: Reflections on Faith and Community

01:24:20 - Upcoming Dialogue: Non-Rivalrous Christianity, Religio, and the Fellowship of the Spirit

 

John Vervaeke and Rafe Kelley join forces to explore the profound connection between movement, nature, and personal growth. Kelley, a movement educator, reveals his "Ecology of Practices," a unique blend of parkour, martial arts, and nature-based movement designed to cultivate a holistic wisdom practice. Discover the transformative power of movement as it pushes physical boundaries, fosters environmental connection, and opens doors to personal evolution. Learn how Kelley integrates philosophy to build a wisdom practice that resonates not just in the mind, but deep within the body itself. Explore the challenges and rewards of connecting with nature through movement, and gain valuable insights into the future of movement culture and its potential to impact individuals and communities alike. This episode offers a thought-provoking journey for athletes, beginners, and anyone seeking deeper meaning, leaving you eager to explore the transformative power of movement in your own life.

 

Rafe Kelley, founder of Evolve Move Play, pioneers a unique movement philosophy, merging parkour with martial arts and a deep connection to nature, fostering a holistic wisdom practice. With over two decades of teaching experience, he offers transformative retreats, workshops, and online courses worldwide. His work emphasizes the synergy between body, psyche, and environment, inviting exploration of personal potential and the sacred in movement.

Glossary of Terms

 

Ecology of Practices: A set of activities or habits that a group of people commit to doing together.

Parkour: A discipline focused on navigating obstacles efficiently and creatively.

Movement Culture: A broad approach to physical training that incorporates elements from various disciplines for holistic development.

 

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Awakening from the Meaning Crisis https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ

 

Quotes 

 

"Discipline ultimately means to follow, and you don't discipline punitively; you discipline something by getting it oriented to something that it wants to follow. That's an important idea." - [01:26:20] John Vervaeke

 

"Parkour invites you to fall in love with your experience of being by opening up new affordances in how you perceive and experience the world, bringing joy and the potential for the flow state." - [01:41:00] Rafe Kelley

 

"If we want to solve the meaning crisis and the meta crisis, we have to fall more in love with being. And that's not something we can do just through dialogue. It's something we have to embody." - [01:43:20] Rafe Kelley 

 

Chapters 

 

[00:00:00] - Introduction and Background of Rafe Kelley

[00:02:20] - Return to the Source Retreat Experience

[07:50:00] -  The Essence of Movement Practice

[00:21:00] - Challenges and Transformations Through Movement

[00:53:10] - The Role of Community and Teaching in Movement

[01:07:05] - Integrating Philosophy and Movement

[01:25:28] - Future Directions for Movement Culture

 

 

Explore the complex relationship between AI and human insight in this thought-provoking episode with John Vervaeke, Ken Lowry, Jonathan Pageau, and DC Schindler. While deeply engaging with the scientific and philosophical aspects of artificial intelligence, the panel discusses its broad implications for our understanding of consciousness, culture, and rational thought. Key points include AI's challenge to our self-perception, its potential to reshape societal norms, and the critical examination of whether AI can approach human-like wisdom and ethical reasoning. The dialogue invites listeners to contemplate AI's role in redefining human rationality, wisdom, and the foundational structures of our societies.

 

Ken Lowry is a dedicated explorer of the good, true, and beautiful through his channel Climbing Mt Sophia, focusing on wisdom and virtue dialogues. His work fosters key collaborations, enhancing discussions on spirituality and philosophy.

 

Jonathan Pageau, a French Canadian icon carver and speaker, examines symbolic patterns to reconnect modern life with traditional arts, advocating for the re-enchantment of our contemporary world through ancient wisdom.

 

DC Schindler, a philosopher and professor, delves into metaphysics, ethics, and cultural philosophy, examining classical philosophy's impact on modern challenges, including AI, and its influence on culture and understanding.

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Ken Lowry:

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Substack: https://kenlowry.substack.com/

 

Jonathan Pageau:

Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/jonathanpageau  

 

DC Schindler:

Website: https://www.johnpaulii.edu/academics/faculty/d-c-schindler/

 

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• AI: The Coming Thresholds and The Path We Must Take | Internationally Acclaimed Cognitive Scientist - John Vervaeke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-_RdKiDbz4&list=PLND1JCRq8Vui2YOOfrxbeRwJk5jZPmAth&index=1

• Mentoring the Machines: Orientation - Part One: Surviving the Deep Impact of the Artificially Intelligent Tomorrow - John Vervaeke, Shawn Coyne https://www.amazon.com/Mentoring-Machines-Orientation-Artificially-Intelligent-ebook/dp/B0CBXKL7P1

• Mentoring the Machines: Origins - Part 2: Surviving the Deep Impact of the Artificially Intelligent Tomorrow - John Vervaeke, Shawn Coyne https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CH8W8XLF

• Divination and Human Nature: A Cognitive History of Intuition in Classical Antiquity - Peter Struck https://www.amazon.com/Divination-Human-Nature-Cognitive-Intuition/dp/0691183457/

Quotes

 

"I do not honestly see how it is possible for humans to make something that is not derivative of themselves... the idea that these things could not be either ways to increase certain people's power or parasites on our own consciousness seems to me not conceivable." - Jonathan Pageau [00:24:22]

"One of the problems that I'm seeing is that a lot of this is motivated by economic, by greed, by the capacity to be economically superior to other companies... what is actually driving AI is something like mammon." - Jonathan Pageau [00:21:39] 

"I wonder whether it's possible to be intelligent without first being alive. There's something about the nature of a living thing that allows intelligence to emerge. Intelligence is a way of being before it's a way of acting and is analogous to what it means to be alive rather than just carry out functions that look like life." - DC Schindler [00:42:59]

 

Chapters 

 

[00:00:00] - Opening Remarks: AI's Scope and Impact

[00:03:00] - Defining AI: Weak, Strong, and AGI

[00:18:30] - Ethical and Philosophical AI Considerations

[00:32:35] - Integrating Wisdom with AI Development

[00:41:40] - Distinguishing Intelligence and Rationality in AI

[00:51:48] - Aligning Humanity to AI-Driven Cultural Shifts

[01:23:00] - Consciousness and Technology: Extending the Human Mind

[01:42:23] - Speculating AI's Future Directions

[01:57:44] - Final Thoughts: Reflecting on AI's Complexity

 

In this episode of Voices with Vervaeke, philosopher and cognitive scientist Mark Miller joins John Vervaeke and Rick Repetti for a fascinating discussion on the connections between philosophy, science, and contemplative practice. Mark provides insight into his work as a 'synthetic philosopher', integrating diverse fields like neuroscience and Buddhism to create theoretical frameworks for understanding the mind and contemplation. The conversation explores whether there can or should be a 'philosophy of meditation', and how science and philosophy might contribute to human flourishing and contemplative development. Mark shares rich examples of how computational models and cognitive science can elucidate contemplative skills and states, providing nuance to traditional teachings. He emphasizes the importance of balance between insight practices and compassion cultivation on the contemplative path.

 

Mark Miller, a philosopher and cognitive scientist, holds a senior research fellowship at Monash University's Center for Consciousness and Contemplative Studies in Australia, with affiliations at the University of Toronto and Hokkaido University in Japan. His work, which delves into the interplay between human thought, technology's impact on well-being, and human-computer interaction, is at the forefront of integrating cognitive neuroscience with philosophical inquiry.

 

Glossary of Terms

 

Predictive Processing: A cognitive science theory that suggests the brain continuously makes predictions about the environment based on past experiences.

Synthetic Philosophy: An interdisciplinary approach that integrates insights from various fields to develop comprehensive frameworks for understanding complex phenomena.

Contemplative Science: A field of study that investigates the effects of meditation and contemplative practices on the mind and well-being.

 

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Mark Miller:

The Contemplative Science Podcast: https://www.thecontemplativescientists.com/

Website: https://www.markdmiller.live/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaYjSup-Hp3V9P6MGt2zPuA

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Books, Articles, and Publications

 

• Routledge Handbook on the Philosophy of Meditation - Rick Repetti 

https://www.amazon.com/Routledge-Handbook-Philosophy-Meditation-Repetti/dp/036764746X

• Why I Am Not a Buddhist - Evan Thompson https://www.amazon.com/Why-I-Am-Not-Buddhist/dp/0300264674

 

Quotes

 

“Meditation is philosophy. It's not about relaxing, and it's certainly not about just creating weird psychedelic states so that we can blow our minds and talk about it. Meditation is a way of knowing ourselves, knowing our situation, and then flourishing through that special knowing.” - Mark Miller [00:16:42]

 

"Don't under appreciate the value of love for your training. If you're listening to this, and you're contemplative, and you're tuning in now to help your practice, don't overlook it. It's valuable at the beginning, in the middle, in the end - like even a small amount of loving kindness and kindness practice now is going to make all the difference." - Mark Miller [00:56:00]

 

Chapters

 

[00:00:00] Introduction 

[00:06:00] - Mark Miller's Journey in Contemplative Science

[00:14:00] - Meditation's Role in Philosophy and Contemplation

[00:17:00] - Synthetic Philosophy and Contemplative Science

[00:23:00] -  Bridging Science, Philosophy and Contemplative Practice 

[00:30:00]  - Blending Philosophy and Cognitive Science in Contemplative Practice 

[00:47:00] -  Exploring Deep Belief Structures and Skillful Engagement

[00:55:00] - Concluding Thoughts

 

In this episode of "Voices with Vervaeke," John Vervaeke and guest Seth Allison offer an insightful exploration into the depths of psychotherapy, focusing on internal family systems (IFS) and its connections with Jungian psychology and attachment theory. John and Seth delve into the theoretical and practical realms of IFS, as founded by Dick Schwartz, highlighting its transformative potential in clinical practice. The conversation traverses the historical development of psychological theories, the intricacies of the human psyche, and the therapeutic efficacy of blending IFS with emotional therapy (EFT). By weaving together theory and practice, Seth and John illuminate the path towards healing and wholeness.

 

Seth Allison is a renowned psychotherapist specializing in internal family systems (IFS) and its integration with traditional psychotherapy. With years of clinical practice, Seth brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the conversation, offering valuable insights into the therapeutic journey. 

 

Glossary of Terms

 

Internal Family Systems (IFS): A psychotherapy model that emphasizes the multiplicity of the mind, suggesting that the psyche is made up of subpersonalities or parts.

Jungian Analysis: A psychotherapeutic approach based on the theories of Carl Jung, focusing on the integration of the conscious and unconscious aspects of the psyche.

 

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Seth Allison:

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After Socrates: Episode 8 - The Socratic Shift | Dr. John Vervaeke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AALyoLXE0AQ

Books, Articles, and Publications

 

• No Bad Parts: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with the Internal Family Systems Model - Richard Schwartz https://www.amazon.com/No-Bad-Parts-Restoring-Wholeness/dp/1683646681

• Many Minds, One Self: Evidence for a Radical Shift in Paradigm - Richard C. Schwartz, Robert R. Falconer 

https://www.amazon.com/Many-Minds-One-Self-Evidence/dp/0692957340/

• The Theradelic Approach: Psychedelic Therapy. Perspective, Preparation, and Practice - Sunny Strasburg, Richard Schwartz https://www.amazon.com/Theradelic-Approach-Psychedelic-Perspective-Preparation/dp/B0C7JJB5WY

• In Midlife: A Jungian Perspective - Murray Stein https://www.amazon.com/Midlife-Jungian-Perspective-Murray-Stein/dp/1630510890/

• Jung's Map of the Soul: An Introduction - Murray Stein  https://www.amazon.com/Jungs-Map-Soul-Murray-Stein/dp/0812693760/

• A Spirit of Trust: A Reading of Hegel’s Phenomenology - Robert B. Brandom https://www.amazon.com/Spirit-Trust-Reading-Hegels-Phenomenology/dp/0674976819/

 

Quotes

 

"The pursuit of wisdom and virtue from an attachment perspective could be framed as the pursuit of trust, learning of trust. It is a dangerous thing to trust, yet we can't really get to the next level without some risk. The connections we make externally and internally really are the key forward, the door to walk through." - Seth Allison [01:21:08]

Chapters 

 

[00:00:00] - Introduction to Seth Allison and Recap of Previous Discussions

[00:05:00] - Exploring Internal Family Systems (IFS)

[00:20:00] - Jungian Analysis and Its Intersection with IFS

[00:35:00] - Practical Applications of IFS in Therapy

[00:50:00] - The Interplay of Technique, Attachment, and Transformation in Psychotherapy

[01:05:00] - Navigating the Liminal Spaces of the Psyche with Hermes

[01:16:00] - Conclusion and Plans for Future Conversations

 

In Episode 6 of the "Philosophy of Meditation" series, John Vervaeke and Rick Repetti discuss with guest Massimo Pigliucci how stoicism and meditation intertwine. Massimo, an acclaimed philosopher, delves into his transition from evolutionary biology to philosophy and Stoicism. The conversation covers key aspects of Stoicism, including the practice of mindfulness, attention (prosoche), and the Stoic approach to life's challenges. They discuss the parallels and differences between Stoic practices and Buddhist meditation, emphasizing the importance of rationality and judgment in Stoicism. The episode also touches on mindfulness in modern contexts, comparing it to classical practices, and concludes with Massimo sharing his personal Stoic meditative practices and reflections on life and death.

 

Massimo Pigliucci is a distinguished philosopher and author renowned for his work in the philosophy of science and his advocacy for Stoicism as a practical philosophy for modern life. He is a key figure in the modern revival of Stoicism, contributing significantly through his writings, talks, and as a certified philosophical counselor.

 

Glossary of Terms

 

Stoicism: An ancient Greek philosophy that emphasizes rationality, virtue, and resilience.

Mindfulness: The practice of maintaining a nonjudgmental state of heightened awareness of one's thoughts, emotions, or experiences.

Prosoche: A Stoic term for attentive mindfulness, focusing on rational judgment and action.

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Massimo Pigliucci:

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• Routledge Handbook on the Philosophy of Meditation - Rick Repetti 

https://www.amazon.com/Routledge-Handbook-Philosophy-Meditation-Repetti/dp/036764746X

• A Handbook for New Stoics: How to Thrive in a World Out of Your Control―52 Week-by-Week Lessons - Gregory Lopez, Massimo Pigliucci https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-New-Stoics-Week-Week/dp/1615195335/

 

Quotes

 

"But meditating in Stoicism is a kind of activity that is very much philosophical in nature... But it's most certainly is a type of philosophizing." - Massimo Pigliucci [00:11:11]

 

"This is a place where it's converging with sort of cutting edge CogSci, which is the importance of attention to being reasonable that the training of attention is as important as the training of argumentation." - John Vervaeke [00:20:40]

 

"What can I do better the next time? Again, the idea being your mind needs to be prepared. If you're prepared, you're going to react better the next time around." - Massimo Pigliucci [00:53:15]

 

Chapters

 

[00:00:00] - Introduction to the Episode by John Vervaeke

[00:01:21] - Massimo Pigliucci's Background and Journey to Stoicism

[00:04:44] - Pigliucci’s Current Work and Philosophical Interests

[00:08:03] - Discussing the Philosophy of Meditation

[00:14:47] - Exploration of Stoic Principles: Physics, Logic, and Ethics

[00:17:00] - Massimo Pigliucci Discusses the Broader Understanding of Ethics in Stoicism

[00:24:40] - Stoic Perspectives on Choice, Good and Evil, and Social Relationships

[00:31:09] - Comparing and Contrasting Buddhism and Stoicism

[00:43:30] - Massimo's Personal Stoic Meditative Practices

[00:53:15] - Massimo Pigliucci's Closing Thoughts on Practical Philosophy

 

In the fifth episode of the Philosophy of Meditation series, hosts John Vervaeke and Rick Repetti engage with Evan Thompson, a renowned cognitive scientist and philosopher, to explore the symbiosis of meditation, cognitive science, and philosophy. The episode highlights how Evan's early meditation practice shaped his philosophical outlook, emphasizing the experiential depth revealed by meditative states about consciousness. Discussions cover the transformative social aspects of meditation and philosophical views on death, underscoring Evan's perspective that meditation enriches, but should not solely define, philosophy. This insightful conversation traverses the transformative potential of meditation beyond calming the mind, delving into its role in personal development and intellectual growth. By merging philosophical rigor with meditation's lived experience, this conversation offers a nuanced understanding of meditation's role in enhancing human cognition and self-awareness, presenting a compelling case for its profound impact on philosophical thought.

 

Evan Thompson is a renowned philosopher and cognitive scientist, recognized for his significant contributions to the field of 4E cognitive science, which emphasizes embodied, embedded, enactive, and extended aspects of cognition. His work intricately bridges Western philosophy with Eastern contemplative practices, particularly Buddhism, exploring the intersections of consciousness, meditation, and the human experience. Thompson's influential writings include discussions on the philosophy of mind, meditation, and the nature of self, making him a respected figure in both academic and contemplative circles.

 

Glossary of Terms

 

4E Cognitive Science: A framework in cognitive science emphasizing four key factors: embodied, embedded, enacted, and extended cognition.

Contemplative Perspectives: Approaches to understanding and experiencing reality that involve introspection and focused attention, often used in the context of meditation and mindfulness.

 

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• Awakening from the Meaning Crisis https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ

Books, Articles, and Publications

 

• Routledge Handbook on the Philosophy of Meditation - Rick Repetti 

https://www.amazon.com/Routledge-Handbook-Philosophy-Meditation-Repetti/dp/036764746X

• Mind in Life: Biology, Phenomenology, and the Sciences of Mind - Evan Thompson https://www.amazon.com/Mind-Life-Biology-Phenomenology-Sciences/dp/0674057511/

• Waking, Dreaming, Being: Self and Consciousness in Neuroscience, Meditation, and Philosophy - Evan Thompson https://www.amazon.com/Waking-Dreaming-Being-Consciousness-Neuroscience/dp/0231136951/

• Why I Am Not a Buddhist - Evan Thompson https://www.amazon.com/Why-I-Am-Not-Buddhist-ebook/dp/B082P4FFRG/

• Trying Not to Try: Ancient China, Modern Science, and the Power of Spontaneity - Edward Slingerland https://www.amazon.com/Trying-Not-Try-Ancient-Spontaneity/dp/077043763X/

• The Blind Spot: Why Science Cannot Ignore Human Experience - Adam Frank, Marcelo Gleiser, Evan Thompson https://www.amazon.com/Blind-Spot-Science-Cannot-Experience/dp/0262048809/

 

Quotes

 

 "I think of myself as first and foremost a philosopher of mind who works very much on cognitive science and in collaboration with cognitive scientists." - Evan Thompson [00:04:31]

 

Chapters

 

[00:00:00] - Series Introduction and Evan Thompson's Cognitive Science Expertise

[00:02:13] - Integrating Western Philosophy with Buddhist Concepts in Cognitive Science

[00:04:09] - Philosophical and Meditative Perspectives on Dying and Death 

[00:07:44] - Cognitive Flexibility and Death Reflection in Meditation Practice

[00:16:15] - Mindfulness Practices Across Various Traditions and Philosophical Inquiry

[00:36:01] - Transformational Aspects of Meditation, Rituals, and Self-Cultivation

[00:50:29] - The Role of Mindfulness in Modern Culture and Science

[00:57:56] - Meditation as a Conduit Between Diverse Philosophical and Cultural Contexts

[01:00:43] - Enhancing Consciousness and Attention Through Mindfulness Practices

[01:14:00] - Concluding Dialogue