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    Reviewing the Pixel 4, the calm before the streaming war, and a Foxconn Wisconsin update

    enOctober 25, 2019

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    • Foxconn Project in Wisconsin Faces Setbacks and UncertaintyDespite initial promises of massive job creation and advanced technology, the Foxconn project in Wisconsin has faced numerous setbacks and uncertainty, with some reports suggesting the projects have been put on hold and the initial plans for the factory have significantly changed.

      The Foxconn project in Wisconsin, which was once touted as a game-changer with promises of massive job creation and advanced technology, has faced numerous setbacks and uncertainty. The company has bought buildings for innovation centers but has not yet made any significant progress, with some reports suggesting the projects have been put on hold. The initial plans for the factory have also changed significantly, from building 75-inch TV panels to promising a smaller LCD fabrication facility. Despite Foxconn's assurances, the empty buildings and lack of clear direction raise doubts about the future of the project. This episode of VergeCast also touched on other topics such as Google Pixel 4 reviews, Microsoft Surface hardware, and the latest developments in the video game streaming industry.

    • Foxconn's Wisconsin Project: Data Centers and DisappointmentsFoxconn's Wisconsin project faces skepticism and frustration from locals due to lack of promised factory, frequent plan changes, and disrupted community. The company is hiring college students, but job availability beyond that is unclear. Construction of data centers and network operation center continues, despite battery life concerns for new Pixel phones.

      Foxconn, a tech company, is constructing various structures in Wisconsin, including a data center and a network operation center, despite the absence of a promised factory. The project has been met with skepticism and frustration from locals due to the lack of progress and the disruption caused by road widening and house purchases. Foxconn has also started a program to hire college students and pay them to attend college as part of an effort to meet job creation targets, but it's unclear what other jobs will be available beyond that. The company's plans have been subject to frequent changes, including the cancellation and refiling of plans for a giant glass dome that will house a data center and an auditorium. The construction has been ongoing for nearly 200 days, and some critics argue that the company has already received significant financial incentives from the state, making the absence of a factory even more concerning. The Pixel phone review process is ongoing, with battery life being a major point of contention. Despite some criticisms, the reviewers generally like the phone, but are disappointed by the battery life, particularly on the smaller model.

    • Google Pixel 4: Best Android Experience vs Best Android PhoneGoogle Pixel 4 delivers superior Android experience with intuitive interface and seamless face unlock, but falls short on battery life and lacks wide-angle lens.

      The Google Pixel 4 offers a superior Android experience compared to other high-end Android phones, despite not having the best specs. This is because Google focuses on the overall cohesiveness and ease of use of the phone, from the intuitive Android 10 interface to the seamless face unlock feature. However, the phone falls short in areas like battery life and the absence of a wide-angle lens, which may be deal-breakers for some users. The distinction between the best Android experience and the best Android phone is an important one, as it highlights how different manufacturers prioritize different features in their devices. Ultimately, the choice between a phone with the best specs and one with the best user experience depends on individual preferences and priorities.

    • Biometric security features may not be as secure as traditional passwordsBiometric data can be easily accessed without user consent, and lack of attention detection in some implementations can make biometric security less secure than strong passwords. Stay informed and use a combination of strong passwords and biometrics for optimal security.

      Biometric security features, such as Face Unlock, while convenient, may not be as secure as traditional passwords. The discussion highlighted the potential risks, particularly in the context of law enforcement, where phones with biometric security can be easily unlocked without the user's consent. Google's implementation of Face Unlock on the Pixel 4 was criticized for lacking adequate attention detection, making it easier for unauthorized users to unlock the phone. Furthermore, the conversation emphasized the importance of privacy and the potential vulnerabilities of biometric data. While biometrics may encourage more people to secure their devices, the risks associated with this type of security feature should not be overlooked. Ultimately, it's crucial to be aware of the limitations of biometric security and to consider using a combination of strong passwords and biometrics for optimal security. The incident with Google's Pixel 4 serves as a reminder that even tech giants can make mistakes, and it's essential to stay informed and vigilant when it comes to protecting our digital information.

    • Google prioritizes software over hardwareGoogle's hardware may not match competitors, but its clean user experience and cohesive design set it apart. Google's hardware division aims to take a more prominent role, but its marketing strategies may need to change to compete.

      Google focuses on software polish over hardware, unlike competitors Samsung and Huawei. Google's hardware offerings, such as the Pixelbook and Google Home Max, are not as high-end as their competitors. However, the Google Pixel phone has received positive reception for its clean user experience and cohesive design. Google may face challenges in competing with Samsung's aggressive marketing strategies and carrier deals, which have contributed to Samsung's dominance in the market. Google's hardware division, led by Rick Osterloh, is expected to take a more prominent role in the future, but it remains to be seen if Google will adopt more aggressive marketing tactics to boost sales. Google's earnings report may not provide insight into hardware sales, as the company has historically kept that information private.

    • Google's Pixel: Setting industry standardsGoogle's Pixel phones drive innovation and competition in the smartphone industry by pushing competitors to improve and offering unique features like Google Assistant and computational photography.

      The success of Google's Pixel phones goes beyond just customer satisfaction and sales numbers. It's essential for Google to produce high-quality Android phones as a means to improve the operating system and set industry standards. Google's commitment to innovation in areas like camera technology pushes competitors to up their game. While some criticize the battery life and limited availability, others see the Pixel as a necessary player in the market, ensuring a diverse range of choices beyond Apple and Samsung. The Pixel's unique features, such as the Google Assistant and computational photography, contribute to its value, even if they may not surpass those of competitors in every aspect. Overall, the Pixel's impact on the smartphone industry is significant, driving innovation and competition.

    • Apple vs Google: Different Approaches to Smartphone CamerasApple focuses on user-friendly experience and better hardware, while Google offers more control and customization. Apple's newer sensors produce better images in bright light, while Google uses math and shorter exposures for low light or moving objects. Both have strengths and weaknesses, and user preference determines which approach is preferred.

      Apple and Google have different approaches when it comes to smartphone cameras. Apple focuses on providing a simpler, more user-friendly experience with better hardware, while Google offers more control and customization, albeit with less impressive out-of-the-box photo quality. Apple's newer sensors, such as those in the iPhone 11, are less noisy and produce sharper images in bright light, while Google uses more math and shorter exposures to achieve sharper photos in low light or with moving objects. Ultimately, both companies have their strengths and weaknesses, and users' preferences will determine which approach they prefer. Apple seems to have an edge in terms of overall camera quality and ease of use, while Google offers more control and flexibility for those who want it. The debate between the two continues, and next week, The Verge will host a live event featuring representatives from Google and Instagram to discuss the impact of platforms on camera technology.

    • Google phone's battery life management and software updates face criticismUsers find Google phone's dynamic refresh rate adjustment confusing, battery life management subpar, and software updates chaotic, but its notifications and customizability remain attractive features

      The new Google phone, despite its innovative features like radar technology and high refresh rate screen, has faced criticism for its battery life management and software updates. The phone's dynamic refresh rate adjustment, which saves battery life by lowering the refresh rate in certain situations, has caused confusion and annoyance for users. Google has promised a software update to address this issue. Additionally, the phone's software updates have been perceived as chaotic and behind schedule, which is a common issue in the tech industry. The phone's promise of seamless hardware and software integration hasn't been fully achieved, but its advantages over competitors in areas like notifications and customizability still make it an attractive option for some. Overall, the Google phone represents the progress and challenges of modern smartphone technology.

    • Breaking free from calendar deadlines for tech product innovationInnovation thrives when we challenge traditional systems and deadlines, connect people, ideas, and technologies, and offer products that truly meet consumer needs, like Amazon's Prime Day and the Surface Laptop 3 15 inch.

      The pressure to release new technology products by certain calendar deadlines, such as the holiday season, can lead to rushed releases and lack of innovation. The speaker suggests that breaking free from these imposed deadlines, like the ancient calendar system, could allow for more time to polish and create better products. For example, Amazon's Prime Day event in late summer shows that there's potential for consumers to buy products outside of traditional release schedules. Regarding specific tech products, the Surface Pro 7 was criticized for being an uninspiring update, while the Surface Laptop 3 15 inch was praised for existing simply because it offers a larger screen size for those who want it, without the extra features that may come with a "pro" label. The speaker notes that the conventional wisdom about 15 inch Windows laptops selling well due to the desire for big screens has been challenged by the availability of better quality laptops in this size range. Innovation can be achieved when we connect the right people, ideas, and technologies, and challenge traditional systems and deadlines. Deloitte helps clients do just that, and the documentary "Art Beats in Lyrics" showcases how individuals and communities can also come together to create something meaningful and transformative.

    • Microsoft and Google focus on premium budget techMicrosoft and Google aim to sell trustworthy, well-built devices with better design to consumers, even if they cost more and lack advanced features.

      Microsoft and Google are focusing on creating nicer, more premium versions of budget-friendly tech products, such as laptops and Chromebooks, despite some drawbacks in specs or features. These companies are targeting consumers who are willing to pay a little extra for a trustworthy brand and a better build quality, even if it means sacrificing some functionality. For instance, Microsoft's new Surface Laptop and Google's Pixelbook lineups offer improved design and user experience but come with higher price tags compared to their competitors. The demand for these products exists, especially in the market for larger, lower-resolution screens, as seen with the popularity of cheap 15-inch laptops and big-screen TVs. While these devices may not offer the most advanced features, they cater to consumers who prioritize design and brand trust over raw specs. Microsoft saw an opportunity to fill the gap between budget and premium laptops with their new Surface Laptop, and it seems to be a successful move.

    • Apple and Disney Enter Streaming Market, Challenging NetflixApple and Disney enter streaming market, investing heavily in content and aiming to create ecosystems, challenging Netflix's dominance, which has acknowledged the need to prepare for turbulence and taken on $2 billion in debt.

      The tech industry is experiencing a significant shift with the launch of new streaming services like Apple TV Plus and Disney Plus. Apple is aiming to create an ecosystem similar to Amazon Prime, with services like Apple Music, Apple News, and Apple Arcade, eventually trapping users within their services. Disney, on the other hand, has the potential to disrupt the industry with its massive subscriber base and financial resources, challenging Netflix's dominance. Netflix, which has been a market leader, is facing competition and has acknowledged the need to prepare for turbulence, taking on $2 billion in debt. These companies are investing heavily in content, with Apple giving large sums to stars like Reese Witherspoon and Jennifer Aniston, and Disney aiming for 120 million subscribers in five years. This is an exciting yet uncertain time in the industry, with many changes on the horizon.

    • Competition from Tech Giants: Apple and AmazonNetflix faces intense competition from Apple and Amazon in the streaming content market, with the latter having diverse revenue streams allowing them to spend more on video content.

      Netflix is facing intense competition from tech giants Amazon and Apple, not just in the streaming content market but also in terms of budget. While Netflix relies heavily on its subscriber base and relationships with creators to produce hits, Apple and Amazon can afford to spend more on video content as they have diverse revenue streams from hardware sales and retail services. Apple is focusing on exclusivity deals and producing new content, while Netflix is trying to renew and hold onto its existing shows amidst a rapidly changing media landscape. The race to produce high-quality content is heating up, and it remains to be seen how Netflix will navigate this competition.

    • Streaming Giants Differentiate Their OfferingsDisney partners with Verizon, Netflix focuses on Emmy-winning content, HBO maintains premium reputation, Apple invests in high-profile programs to attract and retain subscribers

      The streaming landscape is constantly evolving, with companies like Disney, Netflix, HBO, and Apple each bringing unique offerings to the table. Disney, with its vast library of content and family-friendly originals, is attracting subscribers through deals like its partnership with Verizon. Netflix, known for its creator-friendly approach and slow-moving shows, is focusing on Emmy-winning content to boost its prestige. HBO, with its selective approach and Emmy-winning shows, is maintaining its reputation as a premium streaming service. Apple, aiming for Emmy recognition, is investing in high-profile programs. As the competition intensifies, it's essential for each platform to differentiate itself and cater to various audience preferences.

    • Apple bundles Apple TV Plus with iPhones to attract usersApple offers a free year of Apple TV Plus to iPhone users, aiming to increase user base and potentially convert them into paying customers after the free period, while Netflix faces challenges in expanding beyond the US market with only subscriptions as its offering.

      Apple is using its existing customer base and ecosystem to offer a free year of Apple TV Plus to iPhone users, giving them an edge over competitors like Netflix. Apple's strategy is to bundle the streaming service with its devices, making it more accessible and attractive to potential subscribers. This approach allows Apple to instantly increase its user base and potentially convert them into paying customers after the free year. Meanwhile, Netflix, which relies solely on subscriptions, faces the challenge of expanding its market beyond the United States as competitors like Disney Plus, Amazon Prime, and soon, Comcast's Peacock, offer bundled services or subsidies.

    • Disney and Netflix Compete for Global Market ShareDisney and Netflix are major players in the streaming industry, with Disney focusing on international expansion and strategic acquisitions, while Netflix expands in countries like India and designs mobile-specific content. Despite competition, Netflix remains ahead due to its large subscriber base and unique content.

      The streaming industry is becoming increasingly competitive, with major players like Netflix and Disney posing significant threats to each other in terms of international expansion. Disney, with its strong relationships and strategic acquisitions, is expected to be a major contender in international markets, particularly in China. Netflix, on the other hand, is focusing on expanding its presence in countries like India and designing content specifically for mobile users. Despite the competition, Netflix remains ahead due to its vast subscriber base and unique content offerings. The oversaturation of streaming services in the US market may push some consumers back towards traditional bundles or cable, but the trend towards cord-cutting continues. Ultimately, the market may not be entirely winner-takes-all, as consumers are still able to subscribe to multiple services and find value in each one.

    • Streaming market: An arms race for content and market shareCompanies need to produce high-quality content and develop functional, user-friendly apps to attract and retain subscribers in the competitive streaming market

      The streaming landscape is not a winner-takes-all market, but rather an arms race for content and market share. Most consumers will have multiple services due to the ease of cancellation and the abundance of desirable content. Companies like Warner, AT&T, and Comcast may realize the challenges of running their own streaming platforms and instead opt to license their content to existing services like Netflix. The product experience of these streaming apps also matters, and while some, like Netflix, have innovated, others, such as Apple's app, have room for improvement. These companies must not only produce high-quality content but also develop functional and user-friendly apps to attract and retain subscribers.

    • Disparities in Streaming App ExperiencesNetflix's Discovery and user-friendly interface make it a favorite among users, while ESPN Plus and Disney Plots face criticism for messy apps and lackluster performance.

      While some streaming services, like Netflix, prioritize a user-friendly experience and continuous improvement through rigorous testing and iteration, others, like ESPN Plus and the upcoming Disney Plots, face challenges in delivering a seamless app experience. The speakers discussed their personal experiences with these apps and shared insights from industry experts. They noted that Netflix invests heavily in its recommendation algorithm and user experience, making it a favorite among users. In contrast, ESPN Plus and Disney Plots have faced criticism for their messy apps and lackluster performance. Despite Disney's focus on Disney Plots and Bob Iger's involvement, concerns remain about the app's day one performance. The speakers also touched on the competition in the streaming market and the efforts of other platforms to lure Twitch stars away from the platform. Overall, the discussion highlighted the importance of a well-designed and functional app in the success of a streaming service.

    • New players entering streaming scene with social experiences and decent ad revenueDisney, Microsoft enter streaming industry with Caffeine and Mixer, offering social experiences, decent ad revenue, and large upfront cash deals to attract talent and viewers, potentially challenging YouTube and Twitch's dominance.

      The streaming industry is heating up with major companies like Disney and Microsoft entering the scene through new platforms like Caffeine and Mixer. These services aim to offer social experiences and decent ad revenue, while also luring popular streamers with large upfront cash deals. This competition could potentially challenge the dominance of established players like YouTube and Twitch. Another notable trend is the increasing focus on personality-based streaming, as seen with the recent move of popular streamer shroud from Twitch to Microsoft's Mixer. This shift towards monetary incentives and reduced toxicity may attract more talent and viewers to these newer platforms. Comparatively, Instagram's attempt to attract YouTubers and influencers through IGTV didn't yield significant results due to the lack of ad revenue and exclusivity deals. However, the comparison might not be entirely accurate, as Instagram functions differently than streaming platforms. Ultimately, the streaming landscape is evolving, and it remains to be seen how these new players will impact the market. For now, it's an exciting time for both viewers and content creators as they explore new options and possibilities.

    • Battle between streaming platforms: Personality vs Platform LoyaltyYouTube's vast VOD library and effective monetization strategies keep creators and viewers engaged, while Twitch's chat moderation challenges persist, making YouTube a more attractive option for many.

      The battle between streaming platforms like YouTube and Twitch comes down to personality versus platform loyalty. While Mixer, a newer platform backed by Amazon, tried to lure creators away from Twitch with lucrative deals, YouTube's vast library of VOD content and effective monetization strategies kept creators and viewers engaged. The chat moderation challenges that Twitch faced at its inception still persist, making YouTube a more attractive option for many. Despite YouTube's lackluster live streaming features, its dominance in the VOD market and the growing gaming industry make it a formidable competitor in the streaming landscape. As the competition heats up, the long-term stickiness of these platforms will be determined by the talent deals they secure and their ability to cater to the evolving needs of content creators and audiences.

    • Exploring the Interconnected Tech and Media IndustriesThe tech and media industries are increasingly interconnected, with players like YouTube, Netflix, and Facebook seeking to expand their influence and reach. Collaboration between seemingly competing entities is also a possibility, and the landscape remains dynamic with breaking news and rapid developments.

      The interconnected nature of technology and media industries was a recurring theme in this podcast episode. The conversation between the hosts touched upon the ambitions of various players in the YouTube, Netflix, and Facebook realm, with each seeking to expand their influence and reach. The hosts also highlighted the potential for collaboration between seemingly competing entities. Furthermore, the episode showcased the dynamic nature of the tech industry, with breaking news and rapid developments requiring the attention of key players. The hosts also shared their excitement about upcoming interviews and events, further emphasizing the ever-evolving landscape of technology and media. Lastly, the episode featured a promotion for a documentary on Hulu, "Art Beets and Lyrics," which explores the growth of a cultural phenomenon in the art world. Overall, the episode underscored the importance of staying relevant and adaptable in the rapidly changing tech and media industries.

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