S03E20 - The Original Disruptor Shares thoughts on the Future, AI and Thought Leadership | Michael B. Horn

en-usJune 15, 2023

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About this Episode

In this episode of Build Momentum, Sarah and Katie are joined by edtech pioneer Michael Horn. Michael is the co-founder of and a distinguished fellow at the Clayton Christensen Institute, a nonprofit think tank dedicated to Disruptive Innovation, and an adjunct lecturer at the Harvard Graduate School of Education.

Michael has won numerous awards for his insightful work, serves on a range of advisory boards, and is the author of books such as “From Reopen to Reinvent: (Re)creating School for Every Child,” ”Disrupting Class: How Disruptive Innovation Will Change the Way the World Learns,” “Blended: Using Disruptive Innovation to Improve Schools,” “Choosing College: How to Make Better Learning Decisions Throughout Your Life,” and “Goodnight Box.”

Some Questions We Ask:

Describe your journey in education. (00:47)
What do you think about this current moment in education? (02:07)
What is your opinion on incorporating AI in education? (05:15)
Please tell us about your book “From Reopen to Reinvent” (08:05)
We're seeing a shift in what students are doing post high school. New pathways are developing. What are your thoughts on that? (16:12)
What are you most hopeful about in the direction education is headed? (19:28)
What insights can you share for listeners who are looking to build their own profiles? (24:31)

In This Episode, You Will Learn:

About Michael’s journey in education (00:58)
His thoughts on AI in education (03:11)
How schooling can best coexist with technology (06:37)
The key message of his book “From Reopen to Reinvent” (08:20)
The importance of choosing the right pathways that are accessible and that suit the student (16:36)
Michael’s thoughts on building your leadership profile (24:31)

Quotes:

“Know your expertise. Lean into that expertise. And make insights out of that expertise. That’s number 1. Second, be humble. You have a lot to learn from everyone you connect with. Third, be authentic. If a theory on which you’re drawing doesn’t have a perspective on something, say that. Know your limits.”

“I think the biggest regret in that book is that we named it “Choosing College” as opposed to something a little catchy and more encompassing—but lesson learned, right? The idea was like, ‘Hey, step back and think about what progress you're trying to make. What's the outcome you're really seeking?’ And if you can understand that, then all of a sudden, you realize college isn't the only pathway anymore to get from A to B. ”

“We're seeing more pathways open up that empower students. It's really positive. It's putting kids at the center. It's giving families more options. I think AI tools are going to create more pathways, and I think we're going to see more districts create their own pathways and portfolios of different school types that power students to learn whatever they want and to chase their dreams in exciting ways.”

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S04E05 - Rural Innovation Series | Aaron Black, Superintendent, Randolph Eastern School Corporation

In this episode of Build Momentum, we are joined by Aaron Black. He is currently the Superintendent at Randolph Eastern School Corporation in Union City, Indiana, and is spearheading the Rural Alliance Zone 32. Aaron was named a semifinalist for the Yass Innovation Prize 2023 from the Yass Center for Education (formerly the Center for Education Reform). The prize recognizes leaders in sustainable, transformational, outstanding, and permissionless education.

This is the third episode in a four-part series focusing on rural collaboratives that are developing opportunities for students in specialized career pathways.

Some Questions I Ask:

Tell us something about yourself and Randolph Eastern. (02:22)
What do you do in Randolph Eastern and what trends do you see on a national scale? (05:47)
What made you decide to start the Rural Alliance Zone 32? (07:32)
What is your funding model and how would you advise other superintendents about joining a collaborative? (09:16)
What credentials students are looking for and what are you offering? (11:31)
What are students’ experiences within your program? (15:15)
What are your goals in the next five years? (18:33)
How do you share your story? (20:10)

In This Episode, You Will Learn:

All about Aaron Black (02:35)
His role at Randolph Eastern and trends he sees (06:02)
The start of rural collaboratives in Randolph County (07:59)
His advice to other superintendents about joining rural collaboratives and about funding models (09:39)
Credentials students look for and what Randolph Eastern offers (11:57)
Student experiences with the program (15:46)
Goals in the next five years (18:48)
How to emulate the way Aaron shares his story (20:22)

Quotes:

“We start with kindergarteners, taking career exploration trips and being very intentional about getting them out in front of employers and learning how the world works. We do that with every grade level, and it culminates at the high school.”

“We know [students] have their skills and interests, right? We know what their passions are. But we're not telling them, ‘Hey, you're going to be a nurse your entire life.’ We're saying, ‘Hey, check out this health care pathway. It may be a perfect fit for you.’”

“Success looks like student participation and access. … The win is in five years if the numbers multiply five times by student participation and if we continue to attract schools to help us figure out this access issue.“

Stay in touch with Aaron:
LinkedIn
Twitter
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en-usFebruary 29, 2024

S04E04 - Rural Innovation Series | Lauren Marie Hall Riggens, Senior Manager, Empower Schools

In this episode of Build Momentum, we are joined by Lauren Marie Hall Riggins, a senior manager at Empower Schools, a national nonprofit that partners with communities and educators to reimagine local education systems. Lauren is currently the Director of Youth Poet Laureate at VOICES Corporation, an organization offering culturally sustaining programs for young people, where she also serves as a board member and consultant. She is an experienced educator, researcher, and nonprofit leader with many notable achievements.

This is the second episode in a four-part series focusing on rural collaboratives that are developing opportunities for students in specialized career pathways.

Some Questions I Ask:

Can you tell us more about Empower Schools? (01:34)
What workforce issues are being addressed in the traditional CTE space? (04:04)
What opportunities have you developed with higher education partners, and what challenges have you encountered? (07:05)
How do you address funding in K-12 education collaboratives? (10:54)
What credentials are you looking to offer in these collaborations, and how do they enhance students’ futures? (14:19)
How do the collaborations address student transportation? (19:21)
What are your goals in rural collaboratives, and do you have to be rural to be part of them? (25:08)
What other places across the country have built impressive collaborations to support students? (28:43)
How do you share your powerful story of success? (31:33)

In This Episode, You Will Learn:

All about Empower Schools (01:46)
Workforce issues traditional CTE addresses (04:19)
Opportunities and challenges with higher education partners (07:35)
Strategies for funding K-12 collaboratives (11:09)
Pros and cons of credentials (15:41)
Creative approaches to student transportation (19:34)
Aspirational goals for education collaboratives anywhere (25:29)
Which other states have built impressive collaborations (29:02)
How Lauren shares her organization’s success (31:49)

Quotes:

“I joke with my friends in the education innovation scene—excuse my language if we can't use this term—but someone needs to make transportation sexy. Why is no one innovating transportation?.”

“We've created a situation where we have thousands and thousands of students across the country who have insane amounts of post-secondary debt and no real career prospects. … Post-secondary is important, but let's marry it with very intentional academic supports and a clear path that kids have explored and feel good about—and that leads to a family-sustaining wage.”

“Rural collaboratives are a really unique way of maintaining community identity and collective efficacy, the sense that a group of people feel like they can do something well together, take care of their kids, [and] create a really strong regional economy.”

Stay in touch with Lauren:
LinkedIn
Email: lhallriggins@empowerschools.org

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en-usFebruary 15, 2024

S04E06 - | Marina Parr and Stephanie Davidsmeyer

In this episode of Build Momentum, we are joined by Marina Parr, a Director of Workforce System Advancement at Washington’s Workforce Board and Stephanie Davidsmeyer, a Director of Communications for the WashingtonState Board of Education. Stephanie has a 10 year experience in nonprofit, corporate and government outreach media relations. Marina is also a Communications Director and Communications Consultant.

Some Questions I Ask:

Tell us more about Marina Parr’s work and if there is a shift on how districts prioritize workforce development (01:25)
Has Stephanie Davidsmeyer seen workforce development and advancement increase through the communication perspective? (04:03)
Have you both seen an increase in public private partnership when it comes to workforce development in Washington? (08:09)
How is the ESSER Cliff impacting the districts in Washington in workforce development? (16:39)
What are the key takeaways of the Workforce System Poster? (21:20)
How Stephanie shares powerful success stories to the community? (23:51)
What are you most hopeful about the future of workforce development? (27:57)

In This Episode, You Will Learn:

Marina Parr’s work as Director of Workforce System Advancement and her view of districts prioritizing workforce development (01:49)
Stephanie Davidsmeyer’s perspective on workforce development across Washington State (04:34)
Marina and Stephanie’s point of view with regards to workforce development increase (11:08)
Impact of ESSAR Cliff in Washington State (18:32)
Key takeaways of the Workforce System Poster (21:42)
Powerful Success Stories (24:13)
Marina’s hopes for the future of workforce development (28:21)

Quotes:

“we know that businesses are busy, that's probably the biggest challenge in workforce development is getting business to the table, because they're really trying to run their business. So you need to make effective use of their time. I know, they're very interested, though, in education and getting the training that the young people need. Our state has had something called industry skill panels, and that's bringing together similar businesses, so they can discuss common skill gaps, hiring challenges, you know, difficulties that their employees face, and finding housing, other support. And the interesting thing is that these businesses, and these employers are typically competitors, right. So they're in the same space.”

“Chronic absenteeism is an issue, it really did start with a pandemic kids kind of checked out, and then they never really checked back in. So we kind of have to figure out how to reengage students and really get them in, you know, really be there, be present, and then also kids that fell behind. And we know that populations that have struggled the most had the widest gap, you know, that they felt way farther behind than some of our higher performing populations of students who have more access to resources, etc. So we have to find ways to keep those folks going.”

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en-usFebruary 15, 2024

S04E03 - Rural Innovation Series | Mike Gonzalez, Executive Director, Rural Schools Innovation Zone

In this episode of Build Momentum, we are joined by Michael Gonzalez, executive director of the Rural Schools Innovation Zone out of Premont,Texas. He was also a former principal at Premont Collegiate High School. This is the first episode in a four-part series focusing on rural collaboratives that are developing opportunities for students in specialized career pathways.

Some Questions I Ask:

What is the Rural Schools Innovation Zone? (01:16)
Please tell us more about the three school corporations involved. (07:06)
What are the challenges and successes in dealing with the higher education system? (09:27)
How do you recommend the funding model to other education organizations and districts? (12:58)
What are the outcomes of the zone and how are you growing this? (16:59)
How do you address the potential barrier of transportation? (22:01)
What about other logistics like bell schedules? (24:12)
What advice can you give to school leaders about starting a real collaborative? (26:08)
How do you share your story to the community and the whole educational sphere? (27:45)

In This Episode, You Will Learn:

All about the Rural Schools Innovation Zone (01:31)
The participating schools (07:41)
The successes and challenges in dealing with the higher education system (09:49)
Recommendations for the funding model (13:10)
Student outcomes and growth (17:31)
Ideas for handling transportation (22:10)
Making the logistics work (24:48)
Mike’s advice to school leaders looking to start a collaborative (26:17)
His way of sharing this story to the community (27:59)

Quotes:

“Be a champion for your community. Be a champion for the kids that are there that are underserved for a wide variety of reasons, whether it be resources or parity or scarcity, whatever the right word is. The local champions need to come to the forefront [and] advocate for the right things to do for kids. Start with your local school boards, your principals, your students, your superintendents, and then take it to the next step from there.”

“You can live in your community and take advantage of other resources and other programs away from your community but come back and still have community pride.”

“I’m trying to get to those organizations that reach the older members of the community that don’t have kids in school so they can understand what we’re doing, because they’re the ones going out and voting.”

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Text: (361)-522-0261

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en-usFebruary 01, 2024

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In this episode of Build Momentum, we are joined by Adam Kulaas, the Director of Innovative Learning and Career and Technical Education for Tacoma Public Schools in Washington State. He also founded Jobs 253, which offers the district’s high school students the opportunity to earn credit toward graduation while gaining meaningful work experience.

Some Questions I Ask:

Tell us about Tacoma Public Schools and your role in the district? (01:15)
What is the Job 253 program? (02:10)
What impact does Jobs 253 have for students and the community? (04:31)
Who funds the program? (06:47)
How do you work with other entities? (08:36)
How do employers respond? (11:14)
Will there be a shift in how districts implement workforce experiences in the future? (12:04)
What is your advice for others who want to consider a similar approach in other cities? (13:29)
When do you introduce the program to students? (15:29)
How do you share your success with others? (17:09)

In This Episode, You Will Learn:

Adam’s role at Tacoma Public Schools (01:21)
All about the Jobs 253 program (02:43)
Impacts of Jobs 253 (04:42)
Funding sources for Jobs 253 (07:01)
Expansion of the program (09:09)
Employers’ response toward the program (11:26)
Trajectory of priorities for Job 253 in the future (12:26)
His advice to other districts adapting theJobs 253 program (13:44)
Reasons to introduce the program as early as possible (15:41)
Sharing Adam’s success story to the community (17:26)

Quotes:

“We served over 1,000 kids in paid work experiences. For perspective, that mirrored the 10 years previous. It's this really rich, exciting opportunity that evolved over the years [but] still remains firmly anchored in this idea of giving kids a paid work experience and serving community.”

“It's been fun to watch us shift or solidify some of the trajectories for youth in terms of life in high school, but even beyond in terms of what's next.”

“The faster we can adapt to scenarios that empower learners–give them not just a sense of ownership, but actual control over what their current experiences are, and then help them frame what that looks like beyond–then we win. I see an intentional push at the state and national levels to integrate more real work experiences, real world experiences. But I think I'm in a unique scenario. You have to gather a mass in order to go from theory to action.”

Stay in touch with Adam Kulaas:
Getting Smart Website
Job 253 Website
Tacoma Public Schools

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en-usJanuary 18, 2024

S04E01 - K-12 to Career: How Community Colleges are Accelerating Workforce Development | Chad Bolser, Katie Lash

In this episode of Build Momentum, we are joined by a new co-host, Chad Bolser, a Chancellor from Ivy Tech Community College in Indiana. In previous roles, he served as vice president of Strategic Operations-Southern Campuses and Chancellor at the Richmond Campus. Chad was the athletic director at Richmond Community Schools for six years and the head coach for boys basketball for 10 years. We also bid farewell to Dr. Katie Lash as she embarks on a new chapter of her career as Ivy Tech’s Vice President for K-14 and Strategic Initiatives.

Some Questions I Ask:

What news do you have to tell us, Katie? (02:12)
Who is Chad Bolser? (03:51)
How do community colleges (including Ivy Tech) impact their local areas? (05:25)
How are K-12 educators expanding their role in preparing students for the workforce? (07:38)
How are community colleges adapting to these changes? (10:14)
What takeaways do you have from national conferences you attend? (11:33)
How does thought leadership play a role in elevating Ivy Tech’s reputation and influence at the state and national level? (14:30)
How does Katie’s new role (from K-12 to K-14) illustrate community colleges’ strategies? (19:36)

In This Episode, You Will Learn:

Katie’s new career path (02:17)
All about Chad Bolser (04:10)
The growth of community colleges like Ivy Tech (05:45)
Chad’s insights regarding K-12 and the workforce (08:00)
Community colleges’ adaptation to AI (10:38)
The evolution of community colleges nationally (11:52)
The influence of Ivy Tech through thought leadership and education (15:25)
Katie’s transition from K-12 to K-14 (20:36)

Quotes:

“One of the reasons that I like the term community college—as opposed to two-year or, when we leave off the community portion of that and just say college to try to stay in the higher education lane—is because we are the connectors of the community. And I think one of the reasons that we're having this moment when lots of folks are talking about how we can be integrators is because we're connectors. We connect to employer partners.”

“It doesn't matter whether it's an elementary student, a middle school student, or high school student, if you ask them about knowledge, rarely are they turning to the curriculum that they've been presented with. They're turning to their devices, they're turning to AI, they're turning to all of the options that they have. We shouldn't be surprised that they're also learning how to do a lot of things that we would have gone to classes for—and they're doing it in 15-minute increments on the internet. That's not a bad thing. That's a wonderful thing.”

“Accessibility has always been the core of what community college’s two-year experience has been for the educational system.”

Stay in touch with Dr. Katie Lash:
LinkedIn

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en-usJanuary 04, 2024

Season 4 Trailer: Global Workforce Series!

Hello, Build Momentum listeners. We're excited to kick off season four of the podcast and we have some exciting changes to share this season. We're so thrilled for last season's co-host, Dr. Katie Lash, who recently left the service center to take on the role of VP of K-14 and Strategic Initiatives at Ivy Tech are so happy for her and wish her well as she focuses on her new job. The good news is that we're still keeping our Indiana connection and Chad Bolser and Chancellor from Ivy Tech will be this season's new co-host!

This season are kicking off a workforce development series including interviews with Superintendents, District CTE leaders, and rural education organizations committed to driving innovation and leading impactful change in K- 14 to support workforce development.

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en-usDecember 14, 2023

S03E24 -Technology and Learning Alchemist Julia Fallon | SETDA | REPLAY

In this episode of Build Momentum, Sarah and Katie are joined by Julia Fallon. Julia, a self-described technology and learning alchemist, is the Executive Director of the nonprofit State Educational Technology Directors Association, where she works with U.S. state and territorial digital learning leaders to empower the education community to leverage technology for learning, teaching, and school operations. Prior to joining SETDA, Julia worked for Washington state’s Office of Superintendent of Public Instruction for 17 years. In her free time, she runs the Crazy Idea Factory™.

Some Questions We Ask:

What is SETDA? (00:45)
What have you discovered about state edtech trends? (05:43)
What is your organization’s Cybersecurity and Privacy Collaborative? (11:11)
How does SETDA unify and elevate voices and messages? (15:04)
What are your views on seeing AI and VR pop up everywhere? (19:15)
What are your hopes for the future? (26:01)

In This Episode, You Will Learn:

All about Julia Fallon and SETDA (01:03)
About cybersecurity and investments in devices and learning management systems (06:22)
About the Cybersecurity and Privacy Collaborative with the Melinda Gates Foundation (11:18)
SETDA’s strategies as a learning community (15:39)
Julia’s perspectives on AI and VR (19:30)
Her thoughts and hopes for the future (26:12)

Quotes:

“We really believe that states have a role to play. It depends on your state, though, of course—because everybody talks about local control. And that means different things for different regions. But the idea is how can you leverage what other states have already done so you don't have to start from scratch.”

“Technology is here to automate. Had we had the pandemic 10 years ago, think about video conferencing! It used to be like, you had a book a room, and then 14 people got involved, and the thing got plugged in, and you had to show up somewhere. And now I'm in my house talking to people around the world.”

“ [The pandemic] highlighted a lot of the gaps that we had and the reality that there are communities we haven't served and we didn't serve well. And now there are different ways to serve them.”

Connect with Julia:
SETDA Website
SETDA Twitter
Julia Fallon’s LinkedIn
Julia Fallon’s Twitter

Resources Mentioned:
”Human Work In the Age of Smart Machines” by Jamie Merisotis
”The Lexus and the Olive Tree: Understanding Globalization” by Thomas L. Friedman

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en-usAugust 10, 2023

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S03E23 - Bridging the gap between edtech organizations and K-12 decisionmakers to solve education's most difficult challenges| Doug Roberts, CEO, Institute for Education Innovation (IEI)

In this episode of Build Momentum, Sarah and Katie are joined by Doug Roberts, who is the founder and CEO of the Institute for Education Innovation. IEI specializes in bridging the gaps between individuals and organizations that are committed to seeing students succeed in school and in life. Doug and his team create safe spaces for problem-solving and innovative thinking, including the IEI Summer Summit where this episode was recorded.

Some Questions We Ask:

Could you tell us why you’re here and what IEI has going on this week? (00:59)
What is IEI? (02:28)
What are your thoughts about superintendents’ stress levels and how does IEI support them during difficult times? (02:45)
Why is it important for edtech companies to have evidence, and how should they be ensuring they have it, especially with ESSER funding dwindling? (05:48)
How do you think edtech companies are getting it wrong when they focus on AI support for school districts? (11:12)
What are some of the ways you have committed to increasing the superintendent pipeline, and how do you think others can help support it too? (15:13)
Tell us more about Supes’ Choice Awards. (21:31)
You've really worked to build your thought leadership presence throughout the years. Is there anything you would change in the industry in terms of how people publicly try to build their exposure and awareness? (27:45)

In This Episode, You Will Learn:

About the IEI Summer Summit (01:11)
About the Institute for Education Innovation (02:32)
About superintendents’ stress levels and how IEI supports them (03:03)
The importance of evidence and why companies should have it, especially in connection with ESSER funds (06:14)
What edtech companies do wrong when they focus on AI support for school districts (11:30)
What IEI Lead is and what it does (15:23)
Doug and Katie’s perspective on the Supes’ Choice Awards (21:54)
Katie’s advice for people who want to apply for the Supes’ Choice Awards (26:54)
Doug’s thought leadership (28:06)

Quotes:

“Evidence is really in the eye of the beholder. That's a decision between a superintendent and her or his cabinet and the actual educators who will implement the thing.”

Connect with Doug:
Doug's Twitter
Email: doug@instituteforedinnovation.com
Doug Robert's LinkedIn
IEI Twitter
IEI Website
Supes' Choice Website

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en-usJuly 27, 2023

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S03E22 - Tom Vander Ark Talks AI, Cultivating an Entrepreneurial Mindset, and Building Credibility | Tom Vander Ark | REPLAY

In this episode of Build Momentum, Sarah and Katie are joined by Tom Vander Ark, an advocate for innovations in learning. He is the CEO of Getting Smart, a design learning firm that helps education organizations increase their impact with innovations for a better learning experience. Tom is also a prolific writer and speaker who has authored or co-authored eight books, including “The Power of Place: Authentic Learning Through Place-Based Education” and “Smart Parents: Parenting for Powerful Learning,” and he’s working on a new one. He has also been a content contributor for Forbes, LinkedIn, and Getting Smart. In his free time, Tom enjoys cycling and making vegan creations.

Some Questions We Ask:

What career experiences led you to launch Getting Smart? (00:44)
What trends and challenges are districts facing now? (01:50)
What’s your take on the evolution of AI? (03:31)
Can you tell us more about your new book? (11:39)
What are your thoughts on developing an entrepreneurial mindset among students? (15:17)
Looking ahead, what are your hopes in education? (18:14)
What advice and insights do you have for other organizations hoping to follow the path you’ve taken? (20:03)

In This Episode, You Will Learn:

All about Tom Vander Ark and Getting Smart (00:53)
The top challenges school districts face today (02:06)
Tom’s perspective about AI (03:48)
About Tom’s new book (11:58)
His thoughts regarding entrepreneurial mindset (15:42)
How to create more opportunities and environments where young people can succeed (18:24)
His advice for other organizations to follow his path to success (20:34)

Quotes:

“The key to education today is helping students develop a sense of identity and agency, understand their strengths and interests, and then understand how and where they can act on the world, spot opportunities to make a difference, design solutions, and deliver impact to a community.”

“That the rise of the platform economy has created many new ramps for people to step into employment or create a new business or campaign. It has enabled a new wave of entrepreneurship.”

“We can create environments where students are experiencing success in what's next. They're actually doing work that matters. That's project-based learning. That's work-based learning. That's enterprise.”

Connect with Tom:
Getting Smart Website
Tom's Twitter
Tom’s LinkedIn
Tom's Instagram
Tom's Epic Veggie Creation Instagram

Resources Mentioned:
Human Work In the Age of Smart Machine by Jamie Merisotis
Tom Vander Ark Books

Build Momentum - Thought Leadership for Education

en-usJuly 13, 2023

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