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    S9 Ep 331 Battle of The Chatabands - Round 3

    enDecember 14, 2023

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    • Exploring new flavors and music at KrogerShopping at Kroger offers a vast selection, everyday low prices, and savings opportunities, creating an exciting experience of discovering new flavors and music together.

      Shopping at Kroger offers a vast selection of delicious options, coupled with everyday low prices and various savings opportunities. Despite any initial anxieties or concerns, the excitement of discovering new flavors and listening to music together outweighs any insecurities. An unexpected twist in the competition, with couples or bands facing off against each other, adds an intriguing layer to the proceedings. While we may not know each other's lives intimately, we can respect everyone's desire to win and their unique backgrounds that bring them to the final. So, let's embrace the journey, the music, and the camaraderie, and enjoy the thrill of the competition.

    • Navigating the subjectivity of music criticismMusic criticism involves expressing honest opinions, but can be subjective and complex, with critics dealing with self-doubt and the influence of past experiences and biases.

      The discussion revolves around the subjectivity and complexity of music criticism, as well as the nervousness and self-doubt that can come with being a critic. The conversation between the participants involves listening to and evaluating a song submitted by an unsigned band, with each person expressing their honest opinions and thoughts. Some of the participants admit to having trouble connecting with the song, while others appreciate its merits but struggle to articulate their reasons. The conversation also touches upon the pressure and expectations that come with being a critic, as well as the influence of past experiences and biases. Ultimately, the participants acknowledge the importance of being honest and open-minded in their critiques, while recognizing that their opinions are subjective and may not align with those of others.

    • Exploring new music connections with ageAging can deepen music appreciation, as listeners discover new connections and comparisons, leading to enjoyment of various genres and potential new interests.

      Music appreciation can evolve with age, and while certain elements like vocals or riffs may continue to resonate, new discoveries and comparisons can add depth to the listening experience. For instance, the speaker found themselves connecting with a punk artist's vocals, reminiscent of Mark E. Smith, and enjoyed the fuzzy bass and scratchy guitars that brought to mind 9 Inch Nails. The energy of a live performance and the presence of interesting sounds also added to their enjoyment. Overall, the speaker found the track enjoyable and wished to hear more, drawing comparisons to bands like Idles and discovering a potential new interest in punk music.

    • Diverse opinions on song elementsGroup members valued individual connections to songs and recognized importance of overall flow and dynamics.

      The group had varying opinions about the songs they listened to, with some elements resonating more with certain individuals than others. For instance, one person might have been fully engaged with the verse of a particular song, while another might have preferred the chorus. The group also recognized the importance of the overall flow and dynamics of a song, with some feeling that certain parts needed improvement to elevate the track as a whole. Ultimately, they appreciated the unique qualities each song brought to the table and the opportunity to share their thoughts and perspectives.

    • Discovering Common Ground with a New SongInitially, group members had reservations about a new song, but through conversation, they found common ground and appreciation for its unique qualities and potential for growth.

      Despite some initial reservations, the group found common ground and appreciation for a new song they listened to, recognizing its unique qualities and potential. The conversation touched on various aspects of the song, including its genre, melody, and production style. Some felt it was a bit glammy or lacking in punk attitude, while others appreciated its raw texture and lo-fi guitars. Overall, they agreed that it was different from what they were used to, and while not everyone was immediately sold, they all found something to connect with and enjoy. The group acknowledged that the song might grow on them and that they could see themselves returning to it in the future.

    • Discussing the merits of 'Much More Than This' by Mez ColemanDespite varying opinions, the group agreed on a 7.5 score for 'Much More Than This', appreciating its catchiness while acknowledging room for improvement. They also delved into alternative pop music preferences.

      The group had a challenging time grading a song they had listened to, with each member expressing their unique perspective and opinion. The song, "Much More Than This" by Mez Coleman, was a topic of much discussion, with some appreciating its catchiness and others finding certain elements distracting. The group seemed to agree on a score of 7.5 out of 10, acknowledging the song's strengths while recognizing room for improvement. Additionally, they explored the concept of alternative pop music and shared their personal preferences. Overall, the conversation showcased the group's enthusiasm for music and their willingness to engage in thoughtful and respectful debate.

    • A group's reaction to a surprising and delightful songThrough open-mindedness and respectful debate, a group discovered the universal appeal of a surprising and delightful song, highlighting music's power to evoke emotions and bring people together.

      The power of music lies in its ability to evoke strong emotions and bring people together, despite individual differences in opinion. The discussion revolves around a group's reaction to a song they heard, with some expressing initial hesitance and others immediately connecting with it. The conversation highlights how the unexpected elements of the song, combined with its familiarity, create a sense of surprise and delight. Additionally, the group's dynamic showcases the importance of open-mindedness and respect for differing viewpoints, as they engage in a lively yet respectful debate about the merits of the song. Ultimately, they all agree that the song is brilliant and well-crafted, demonstrating the universal appeal of great music.

    • Formulas for strong audience responses in creative fieldsCreating authentic and meaningful art that resonates with an audience is key to success in creative fields, even if that success doesn't involve global stardom. Hard work, focus, and potentially a team of support can help artists reach a dedicated fan base.

      There are formulas in various creative fields, including music and art, that can elicit strong audience responses. However, these formulas are often well-disguised and not widely known. Success in these fields doesn't necessarily mean achieving global stardom, but rather having a dedicated fan base who engage with and support the artist. For musicians, this might mean having 3,000 to 4,000 engaged fans who buy their music and allow them to tour. The path to this level of success involves hard work, focus, and potentially a team of support, such as a booking agency and manager. Ultimately, the goal should be to create authentic and meaningful art that resonates with an audience, rather than trying to conform to a specific formula for success.

    • Navigating the Complexities of the Music IndustryUnderstanding the business side of music and maintaining a strong focus on creating good music are key to navigating the unpredictable and complex music industry.

      Success in the music industry can be subjective and unpredictable. While it may seem appealing to have a large fanbase, sell-out shows, and a good salary, the reality can be more complex. Some artists may have huge investments in their music and never recoup their costs, even with significant sales. Others may find success through licensing their music for use in TV, film, or ads. The music industry is full of ups and downs, and it's essential to understand the business side of things to navigate it effectively. Moreover, being dropped by a record label or experiencing a change in taste can lead to the end of a career, even for popular artists. Ultimately, success in music requires resilience, adaptability, and a strong focus on creating good music.

    • Long-term investment in production musicArtists can earn significant financial rewards from licensing their music for TV shows and other productions, but it may take time and patience.

      Creating and licensing production music can be a long-term investment with potential for significant financial rewards. The artist, in this case, made thousands of songs and put them in libraries, where they were randomly selected for use in TV shows or other productions. Although there wasn't much money up front, the potential for large license fees made it worth the wait. Some artists may even need to rely on their spouse's income for several years before seeing any financial success. However, the process can be rewarding and fulfilling, allowing artists to create whatever music they want and have it exist in the world. Some friends of the speaker had even earned large sums of money when their music was used in popular TV shows. While the path to success may be uncertain and require patience, the potential rewards can make it all worth it.

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