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    Sorry, I Had an Epiphany (with David Johnson)

    enJanuary 03, 2021
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    About this Episode

    To escape from a confused chat thread, David rephrased three concerns he had about Ernie's proposed topic for this coming Tuesday (1/5/2021) on The Great Reset:

    1. It does not provide continuity, or address open problems
    2. Ernie seems to be placing all the responsibility on David, rather than sharing it
    3. The goal should be to model (live out) discipleship, and Ernie's proposal doesn't seem to accomplish what his proposal attempted, i.e. establishing a baseline he can use to hold people's feet to the fire (and vice versa) 

    Ernie clarified that he did intend to address #1, apologized for #2, and expressed curiosity about how #3 interacted with what he would present.  David then worried that Ernie was placing too much pressure on himself by attempting to address all of that!. Ernie blithely reassured him that this is how he does his best work -- by raising expectations he does yet know how to fulfill!

    Will this work?  Or come back to bite him? Stay tuned to find out!

    References

    Recent Episodes from Discipling By Jesus

    The Rest of Intimacy

    The Rest of Intimacy

    Bridging the gap between Intimacy and Impact with Incarnation, aka "procreation"

    10 I want to know Christ—yes, to know the power of his resurrection and participation in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, 11 and so, somehow, attaining to the resurrection from the dead.
    12 Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already arrived at my goal,but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me.

    Philippians 3:10-12

    Emotion Incarnate

    Emotion Incarnate

    Healing from “Childhood Emotional Neglect” (CEN)

    Childhood Emotional Neglect (as a child or teen) results in emotional disconnect and lack of emotional intelligence.

    In a marriage, one or both spouses may need healing from CEN
    Spouses who need healing will often exhibit these 10 characteristics…

    1. Misread each other's feelings.
    2. Avoid discussing difficult topics to avoid conflict.
    3. Be unable to argue productively.
    4. Focus on logistics rather than feelings.
    5. Not confide in each other.
    6. React inappropriately if the other confides.
    7. Not feel like a team.
    8. Feel alone even with their spouse.
    9. Have difficulty finding topics to discuss.
    10. Feel awkward experiencing positive emotions like love, or only feel them during sex.


    When children are emotionally neglected:
    Children raised with emotional neglect:

    1. Don't know how to express their emotions and don’t feel comfortable expressing their emotions (because they were not asked questions such as “How are you?,” “Are you sad?,” etc.).
    2. Don't learn how to recognize and discuss emotions (others or their own)
    3. Hide their emotions and may not be aware of them.
    4. Do not understand themselves or their own needs or feelings (or others).


    Crazy Rich Discipleship

    Crazy Rich Discipleship

    How do we prove to the world that we don't need the same things they want?

    Warning: spoiler alert for Crazy Rich Asians.

    “The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again.
    No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord.
    I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again.
    This command I received from my Father.”

    ‭‭John‬ ‭10‬:‭17‬-‭18‬ ‭


    See also 12/2 Tri-Quatrain: Choose to Lose

    Culture Clash

    Culture Clash

    What if the true opposition to the gospel is hidden inside our own implicit assumptions about reality?

    1. Identifying and confronting our emotional distress is essential for identifying our lack of alignment with the Father’s will.
    2. For you, I believe that taking up *your* cross would require you to actively pursue becoming aware of and confronting the roots of your emotional distress, because you have become addicted to a superficial yielding that does not result in emotional catharsis or true intimacy.

    I need to go now and do the exact same thing with MY wife (confront the roots of MY emotional distress).

    Four Stages of Engagement.

    1. Try to fix your problem 
    2. Step back and let you fix it yourself
    3. Incarnate into the tension beneath the problem
    4. Demonstrate Christ's new victory

    The Passion

    The Passion

    Does Jesus -- unlike Pharisees and philosophers -- require His disciples to sacrifice our "digital abstraction of self" in order to confront the emotional distress that lurks beneath?

    My impression, partly from the poem you shared but which I suspect is a gross misunderstanding on my part, is that you think that Jesus is demanding that we daily re-live the emotional distress of facing the death of our self.

    Your impression is essentially correct, though perhaps not _quite_ as bad as you probably think...  

    Follower versus Disciple

    Follower versus Disciple

    During most of the gospels, the disciples wanted a king who would destroy their enemies rather than a savior who would destroy their sin.

    My Christ-less failure mode is trying to destroy your sin instead of [before] confronting my own.

    Luke 9:18-26

    • 22 And he said, “The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.”
    • 23 Then he said to them all: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me.