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    Soy, Almond, Oat Milks: Are They Udder Bull?

    enOctober 04, 2018

    Podcast Summary

    • Plant-based Milks: Environmental Impact and ControversiesResearch shows that oat milk has the least environmental impact among plant-based milks, while rice milk has the most. Almond milk, despite popularity, has a significant water footprint. Consumers should consider environmental impact, taste, and nutritional content when choosing between traditional dairy milk and plant-based milks.

      The debate over plant-based "milks" and their environmental impact is ongoing. Podcasts like Ologies provide entertaining insights into various scientific fields, including the study of alternative milks. These milks, including soy, almond, rice, oat, macadamia, and cashew milk, have gained popularity due to their perceived environmental benefits. Sales have more than doubled in the last decade, but the FDA has questioned whether they should be called milks at all since plants do not lactate. Researcher Joseph Poor, who studies milk's environmental impact at the University of Oxford, shared insights from his extensive database on milk farming's environmental effects. His research compared dairy milk and soy milk, but he also provided data on oat, rice, and almond milks. The results showed that oat milk had the least environmental impact, while rice milk had the most. Almond milk, despite its popularity, had a significant water footprint due to the large amount of water required to grow the almonds. Overall, the choice between traditional dairy milk and plant-based milks depends on individual preferences and environmental concerns. Consumers should consider the environmental impact, as well as other factors like taste and nutritional content, when making their decisions.

    • Dairy milk requires more land than plant-based milksDairy milk has a larger environmental footprint than plant-based milks due to greater land usage and greenhouse gas emissions.

      When it comes to the environmental impact of plant-based milks, dairy milk stands out as the least sustainable option. According to a large-scale study, dairy milk requires significantly more land than other plant-based milks, with an average of 9 times more land needed to produce a single glass. Additionally, dairy farming contributes greatly to greenhouse gas emissions, occupying an area the size of Brazil globally. While other plant-based milks like almond, rice, soy, and oat milk also have their own environmental challenges, such as water usage for almond milk and greenhouse gas emissions for rice milk, they generally have a smaller environmental footprint compared to dairy milk. Therefore, opting for plant-based milks instead of dairy milk can contribute to reducing the overall environmental impact of our food choices.

    • Comparing the environmental impact of different plant-based milksWhile each plant-based milk has unique environmental concerns, they're generally more sustainable than dairy milk. Choose based on personal preferences and specific environmental impact concerns.

      While plant-based milks like almond, rice, soy, and oat have their individual environmental concerns, they are still more sustainable options compared to dairy milk. However, it's important to note that each type of plant-based milk has its unique impact on the environment. For instance, growing rice in paddies leads to methane emissions due to bacteria in the floodwater. This methane production is a hidden environmental cost of rice milk. On the other hand, producing almond milk requires a significant amount of water, while soy milk consumption can lead to deforestation in certain areas, such as the Amazon. Lastly, oat milk and soy milk require more land usage compared to other plant-based milks. Despite these environmental concerns, Joseph, the expert in the discussion, emphasizes that choosing any of these plant-based milks is still a better choice than dairy milk, which produces more greenhouse gas emissions, uses more water, and requires more land. Ultimately, the best choice depends on individual preferences and the specific environmental impact concerns one values most. However, it's essential to be aware of the environmental costs associated with each type of milk and make informed decisions.

    • Switching from dairy milk to plant-based alternatives can save a huge amount of land, greenhouse gases, and waterMaking a small change like switching to plant-based milk saves significant resources, equivalent to everyone giving up showers for a year

      Making a small change in your daily consumption, such as switching from dairy milk to plant-based alternatives, can have a significant positive impact on the environment. This was highlighted in a discussion using extreme numbers, which revealed that such a switch could save approximately half a million square kilometers of land, a billion tons of greenhouse gases, and a vast amount of water. This is equivalent to everyone in the world giving up showers or baths for a year. While this may seem insignificant in our daily lives, especially in urban areas, the numbers paint a compelling picture of the importance of making sustainable choices. This episode was produced by Meryl Horne, Wendy Zuckerman, Rose Rimmler, Odelia Rubin, Caitlin Surry, and was edited by Blythe Terrell, with fact-checking by Michelle Harris and music by Emma Munger and Bobby Lord. We also spoke to experts Adrian Williams, Niels Junghloff, Frank Mitloehner, and Adam Dronowski for their insights on the topic. Stay tuned next week as we explore the complex issue of gentrification.

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    Animal agriculture is responsible for at least 14.5 percent of total greenhouse gas emissions, with some estimates as high as 28 percent. It uses half the earth’s habitable land. Factory farms pose huge threats as potential sources of antibiotic resistance and future pandemics. And the current meat production system loads farmers with often insurmountable levels of debt. Our meat may look cheap at the grocery store, but we are all picking up the tab in ways we’re often starkly unaware of.

    Leah Garcés is the chief executive and president of Mercy for Animals and the author of “Grilled: Turning Adversaries Into Allies to Change the Chicken Industry.” Few animal rights activists have her breadth of experience: For years, she’s been steeped in the experiences of farmers who raise animals, communities that live alongside industrial animal operations and, of course, the farmed animals that live shorter and more miserable lives. So I invited her on the show for a conversation about what meat really costs and how that perspective could help us build a healthier relationship to the animals we eat and the world we inhabit.

    We discuss what it’s like to live next to a hog farm, factory farming’s role in growing antibiotic resistance, how the current system of contract farming saddles individual farmers with debt, the lengths the U.S. government — and taxpayers — goes to to subsidize industrial animal farming, the possibility that the next pandemic will emerge from a crowded factory farm, how high costs — like deforestation in the Amazon — are hidden from consumers at the grocery store, the challenge of helping children make sense of routinized cruelty, whether regenerative agriculture can help undo the damage done by industrial animal farming, the historic animal welfare case currently in front of the Supreme Court and more.

    Mentioned:

    Mercy for Animals

    Sen. Cory Booker has a plan to stop taxpayer bailouts of Big Meat” by Marina Bolotnikova and Kenny Torrella

    Book Recommendations:

    Wastelands by Corban Addison

    Meatonomics by David Robinson Simon

    Animal Machines by Ruth Harrison

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    Can A Burger Help Save The Planet? Impossible Foods CEO Pat Brown Says Yes

    Can A Burger Help Save The Planet? Impossible Foods CEO Pat Brown Says Yes
    By now, most of you have heard about the Impossible Burger. I imagine many of you have tried it. Arguably the ‘beefiest' plant-based patty, even the most attuned palate has trouble believing it isn't real meat. Now ubiquitous at fine dining establishments and fast food franchises alike, it's a global phenomenon. Today we explore the mission behind the burger with Impossible Foods founder & CEO Pat Brown, the man responsible for upending everything you thought you knew about plant-based meat, on a mission to forge a better environmental future for all. A world-renowned geneticist, Pat is a former Howard Hughes Medical Institute Investigator and Professor of Biochemistry at Stanford University. He is also a founder of Lyrical Foods, maker of Kite Hill artisanal nut milk-based cheeses and a founder of the Public Library of Science (PLOS), a nonprofit publisher that pioneered the open-access business model. Pat was elected to the National Academy of Sciences in 2002, and is a member of the Institute of Medicine. His numerous accolades include the American Cancer Society Medal of Honor, and the NAS Award in Molecular Biology. Moved to action by the urgent need to redress global climate change, Pat founded Impossible Foods with one clear goal: to eliminate animal agriculture — inarguably one of the biggest contributors to planetary warming — by providing delicious, nutritious, and environmentally friendly alternatives to meat and dairy directly from plants. The mission statement is ambitious, some would even say audacious. But his impact is already undeniable — and he’s just getting started. Today he shares his story. This is a broad and far-reaching conversation that covers Pat's background and the impetus behind Impossible Foods. We cover the company's initial success in converting high-end chefs, the subsequent penetration of the fast food industrial complex, and the entrepreneurial difficulties of rapid growth and meeting demand at scale. We then turn attention to Pat's mission to redress climate change. The important need to replace food from livestock with more environmental friendly alternatives. And what is required to achieve that, while meeting the finicky palate requirements of the average consumer. Irrespective of your opinion on plant-based meat analogues, the deleterious environmental impact of intensive animal agriculture is irrefutable. Seismic changes to our food systems are mandatory if we want to responsibly redress global climate change. And each of us has the power to promote these changes, beginning with our daily food choices. You can watch it all go down on YouTube. I really enjoyed this exchange. A compelling companion piece to last week's conversation with Paul Hawken, my sit down with Beyond Meat founder and CEO Ethan Brown and my episodes with Good Food Institute founder Bruce Friedrich (RRP 286 & 402), I encourage all of you to listen with an open and appreciative mind. Peace + Plants, Rich