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    Stock market returns are lumpy. Get used to it!

    enJuly 20, 2023
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    About this Episode

    Our latest podcast episode is here, and it's all about exploring the different ways investors make money in the market.

    From thrilling arbitrage strategies to the art of short-term trading, we'll cover it all in a language that even your neighbour's fish could understand (well, almost!).

    But that's not all—our experts will take you on a journey through long-term fundamental investing and quantitative approaches too.

    Expect some fascinating stories, like the infamous LTCM blow-up, and how best investors (& trades) made their fortunes. We'll also unravel the logic behind the elusive VC's hunt for 50x returns and how even "value stocks" need a dash of momentum.

    So, whether you're an investing enthusiast or just curious about the market's mysterious ways, you won't want to miss this one.


    References

    00:38 What do you think about the new all-time high? How do you view different types of investing strategies in the market and how to make money from these strategies?

    24:27 The problem with peoples expectations: When I say stock markets do 12%, people expect this to be linear.

    27:00 Concept of Expectancy

    33:29 Problem in arbitrage is competition, so you need to lever yourself up

    38:21 Option volatility trading - sell options expiring in 2 days and make the decay

    46:32 When VC wins they need to win huge

    49:50 Nifty monthly returns - how do quant strategies do?

    56:52 We have just hit all time high. Based on the past data, how long can this good time potentially last? Which one is your favourite investing strategy?


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    Just tweet to us at @capitalmind_in and let us know. That's all we need to keep going!

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    Liked the episode? Just tweet to us at @capitalmind_in and let us know. That's all we need to keep going!

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    Our latest podcast episode is here, and it's all about exploring the different ways investors make money in the market.

    From thrilling arbitrage strategies to the art of short-term trading, we'll cover it all in a language that even your neighbour's fish could understand (well, almost!).

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    So, whether you're an investing enthusiast or just curious about the market's mysterious ways, you won't want to miss this one.


    References

    00:38 What do you think about the new all-time high? How do you view different types of investing strategies in the market and how to make money from these strategies?

    24:27 The problem with peoples expectations: When I say stock markets do 12%, people expect this to be linear.

    27:00 Concept of Expectancy

    33:29 Problem in arbitrage is competition, so you need to lever yourself up

    38:21 Option volatility trading - sell options expiring in 2 days and make the decay

    46:32 When VC wins they need to win huge

    49:50 Nifty monthly returns - how do quant strategies do?

    56:52 We have just hit all time high. Based on the past data, how long can this good time potentially last? Which one is your favourite investing strategy?


    Liked the episode?

    Just tweet to us at @capitalmind_in and let us know. That's all we need to keep going!

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    5. What innovative avenues could mutual funds explore to earn higher TER while providing value to investors?

    Tell us on twitter @capitalmind_in on how did you like this episode. Your feedback means the world to us!


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    10:30 SEBI is saying "You are making too much money", reduce fees

    19:25 Largest India equity scheme is charging the maximum fees possible

    31:30 Limited Purpose Trading membership for AMCs to trade directly on the exchange

    43:00 Why should a big fund house have the ability to charge more on a new scheme?

    48:00 Performance based AUM through sandbox

    53:00 How do you make the mutual fund industry 10X bigger?

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    "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck", goes the saying. Arbitrage mutual funds are actually taxed as equity funds but they actually behave as debt funds.

    And this tax arbitrage of arbitrage funds is what the regulators may be looking to fix.

    In light of this, we have our latest episode of the Capitalmind Podcast, where we dive into the intriguing world of arbitrage mutual funds, also known as arb funds.

    In this shorter episode, our hosts, Deepak and Shray, explores the role these funds play in your investment portfolio and delves into the impact of recent changes in debt mutual fund taxation on arbitrage funds.

    Here's a sneak peek of what you can expect from this episode

    • The Role of Arbitrage Funds: Discover the peculiar position these funds hold, being described as equity funds but offering debt-like returns. 
    • Taxation Changes and Their Effects: Explore how the recent changes in the income tax code could potentially affect arbitrage funds.
    • Deepak shares his insights on the first and second-order effects of these tax changes and highlights the potential short-term buying opportunities that may arise.
    • Risk-Free and Low-Risk Investment Options: Understand the investment landscape going forward in the likely new tax environment. Discover what alternative options exist for risk-free or low-risk investments in light of these changes.

    Here are five key questions that will be answered in this episode

    • What role do arbitrage funds play in your investment portfolio?
    • How will recent changes in debt mutual fund taxation impact arbitrage funds?
    • What are the first and second-order effects of tax changes on arb funds?
    • What risk-free or low-risk investment options are available in the likely new tax environment?
    • How significant is the presence of arbitrage funds in the stock market, and what does it mean for overall market volumes?

    Join us as we unravel the complexities of arbitrage mutual funds and gain a deeper understanding of their implications for your investment strategy.


    Show Notes & References

    01:00 What do arbitrage funds (arb funds) do and where they fit in your investment portfolio?

    08:30 Why didn’t arb funds become the FD replacement?

    12:30 How big are arbitrage funds and what does that mean as a percentage of total volumes/positions on the stock market?

    18:45 Arbitrage Funds are a huge part of our market and it's a problem. Why?

    21:30 First and Second order effects of taxing arb funds like debt

    34:00 What are the advice or takeaways?


    If you have any feedback, ideas for future topics, or questions, we'd love to hear from you. Send us an email at podcast[at]capitalmind[dot]in.

    For those seeking professional wealth management services for portfolios exceeding 50 lakh, visit Capitalmind Wealth

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