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    Surprise Guest: Lol Tolhurst (Part 2)

    enFebruary 23, 2023

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    • David's Past and PresentDavid discusses his teenage dream of forming a band and his current affordable wireless plan with Mint Mobile on the largest 5G network

      Mint Mobile offers affordable wireless plans starting at $15 a month with unlimited talk, text, and high-speed data on the nation's largest 5G network. While discussing past experiences, David shared his desire to form a band during his teenage years, and they reminisced about his early recordings. Despite the excitement, they didn't finish the conversation about the band's name and the song "Happy, Happy Girl." David also mentioned his failed attempt to grow a COVID beard and his decision to bleach his hair instead. Inflation continues to impact everyday expenses, but Mint Mobile provides a break for consumers looking to save on wireless services.

    • The interviewee reflects on the enjoyable sixties and less satisfying fiftiesThe interviewee found freedom and lack of expectations in the sixties enjoyable, while the fifties brought feelings of aging and pressure to meet expectations. They admired musicians like Robert Smith for their carefree attitude towards aging.

      The sixties were an enjoyable decade for this interviewee due to a sense of newfound freedom and lack of expectations, while the fifties were less satisfying due to feelings of aging and the pressure to meet expectations. The interviewee also admired musicians like Robert Smith of The Cure, who didn't feel the need to warm up before performances and seemed to embody a carefree attitude towards aging. The best tour experience for the intervielee was performing with a Kabuki curtain in front of the stage, which added to the excitement and anticipation for the audience. The interviewee also expressed curiosity about the financial success of musicians, implying that they assumed they were all multi-millionaires.

    • Encountering Jimmy Savile on Top of the PopsThe entertainment industry had a dark side, allowing inappropriate behavior to continue, but it's important to remember and learn from past experiences to create a safer environment

      The entertainment industry in the past had a dark side, and people were often warned about certain individuals due to inappropriate behavior. The speaker shares his experience of encountering Jimmy Savile on Top of the Pops when he was young and how he was advised to avoid him. The culture at the time allowed such behavior to continue, and it was only later that the truth came out. The speaker also reflects on how everyone has a story, and some may be more shocking than others. It's essential to remember that these stories are true and not fabricated. The speaker's experience with Savile serves as a reminder of the past and the importance of creating a safer environment in the industry.

    • Memories at the Smallfield HospitalPersonal experiences and memories shape our lives, and success brings its own unique challenges and rewards.

      The Smallfield Hospital, a seemingly insignificant place, holds meaningful memories for the speaker and his sister, who is currently working there as a nurse. The speaker shares a personal story of playing on the hospital roof during his hernia operation, and how the hospital has been a part of their lives in various ways. The conversation also touches upon the topic of being a successful musician and the experiences that come with it, including dealing with fans and maintaining a healthy lifestyle on the road. The conversation reveals the speaker's past experiences with fans, some of whom could be considered "nutters," and how he has learned to navigate those situations. The conversation also includes a game of guessing names of people mentioned in the conversation, adding an element of fun to the discussion. Overall, the conversation highlights the significance of personal experiences and memories, and the challenges and rewards that come with achieving success.

    • The Music Industry's Shift Towards Live PerformancesComedians and musicians earn significantly from live performances, while smaller artists face challenges due to declining record sales. The industry's focus on live shows necessitates artists' focus on touring and festivals.

      The music industry, particularly for comedians and musicians, has significantly evolved over the years, with touring and live performances becoming the primary source of income. Simon discussed his observation of large comedians earning substantial amounts by performing at big venues with minimal overhead costs. He also highlighted the struggles of smaller bands and artists who have a harder time surviving due to the lack of revenue from record sales. The conversation also touched upon the changing dynamics of the industry, where artists often face challenges in balancing their personal lives with their careers. In essence, the music industry has become more reliant on live performances, making it essential for artists to focus on touring and festivals to generate income.

    • Balancing Family and Music CareerMaintaining a balance between family and music career is essential for long-term success and happiness. Prioritizing family during younger years strengthens bonds, but as career demands increase, it becomes challenging to balance both.

      Maintaining a successful music career while balancing family life can be challenging. The speaker shares his experience of prioritizing family during his son's younger years and how it contributed to a strong bond between them. However, as his son grew older and the speaker's career demands increased, it became more difficult to balance both. Touring and being on the road full-time can be boring without a job to do and incompatible with family life. Additionally, focusing on performing sexually on stage requires undivided attention, making it difficult to worry about logistics and family matters. Ultimately, finding a balance between personal and professional life is crucial for long-term success and happiness.

    • Matt shares his connection to The Cure's 'Pornography' album and memories of notable gigsMatt cherishes The Cure's 'Pornography' album, recalls memorable gigs with Culture Club and The Clash, admires an underappreciated band, and yearns to reconnect with a friend and former bandmate.

      The speaker, Matt, holds a deep connection to his music, specifically the album "Pornography" by The Cure, which he considers one of their most realized works. He also shares memories of notable gigs, including one with Culture Club and The Clash. Matt expresses his admiration for a band that didn't make it big, Ricky's band, and reminisces about an encounter with them at a gig. He also touches upon his friendship with Rob, who grew up with Ricky and still creates music for him. Matt mentions that Ricky's music should be recognized more and expresses a desire to connect with him. The conversation also includes a brief exchange about their personal collections and the speaker's past with The Cure.

    • Musician's Achievements and Unexpected Fan EncountersThe musician values his awards and keeps them securely. He's lived an unassuming life, having unexpected fan encounters in places like Hawaii and on a mountain. He respects his idols' prioritization of fans, even in the face of disagreements. Fans can sometimes overstep boundaries, but maintaining a connection with the audience is important.

      For the musician who spoke with the interviewer, his accomplishments and awards are valuable to him and he keeps them securely. He's lived an unassuming life, avoiding attention and has had encounters with fans in unexpected places. He recalled an encounter with a fan in Hawaii and another time on a mountain. In his youth, he met his musical idols and had a brief interaction with them. Despite disagreements, he respected their prioritization of fans. The musician shared stories of fans overstepping boundaries and the importance of maintaining a connection with the audience.

    • The importance of personal connection and live experiences in The Cure's early successBuilding a dedicated fanbase through touring and performing live, emphasizing community and shared experiences, and maintaining strong relationships within the band were key factors in The Cure's early success.

      The personal connection and live experiences played a significant role in the success of The Cure during their early years. The band's commitment to touring and performing live helped them build a dedicated fanbase, even in small, remote locations. This sense of community and shared experience was crucial for the band's growth and success. Additionally, the importance of maintaining strong relationships, whether it be within the band or with other musicians, was emphasized. The drummer, Boris Williams, shared how The Cure was like a family to him during that time, and he was fully committed to the band. This sense of unity and dedication was essential for their longevity and continued success.

    • The Power of Music and Art to Connect and ComfortCreating and sharing music and art can provide comfort and connection, especially for those feeling misunderstood or marginalized.

      Creating music and art that connects with people, especially those who feel misunderstood or marginalized, can have a profound impact on their lives. The speaker, who has lived this experience himself, emphasizes the importance of validation and solidarity, especially during difficult times. He shares a personal story about how their music resonated with people in the Midwest and how it helped them through tough times. Trent Reznor, a famous musician, also spoke about the impact of their music on him growing up. The speaker believes that the power of music and art lies in its ability to connect people and provide comfort during low points in their lives. He encourages continuing to create and share art, as it can make a difference in someone's life.

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