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    The Creator Economy | Jesse Walden, Li Jin, Cooper Turley

    enJuly 01, 2021

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    • Exploring the Creator Economy in CryptoThe creator economy in crypto includes NFTs, DAOs, and DeFi, offering new opportunities for creators, entrepreneurs, investors, and fans. Balancer, a DeFi platform, is an example of an equitable solution for accessing multiple tokens in one place.

      The creator economy is a growing movement in the crypto space focused on providing more equitable platforms for creators and consumers, beyond traditional web 2 content platforms. Experts believe the creator economy encompasses NFTs, DAOs, and DeFi, offering new economic opportunities for creators, entrepreneurs, investors, and fans alike. The panel discussion aims to explore the nuances of this concept with leading experts in the field. As David mentioned, the creator economy's roots can be traced back to the internet and web 2 platforms, but there's a growing demand for more equitable alternatives. Balancer, a DeFi platform, is one such solution, providing access to the full power of multiple tokens within a single automated market maker, unlocking new possibilities for creators and investors. The creator economy is an evolving landscape, and this panel promises to shed light on its potential impact on the crypto ecosystem. Tune in to learn more.

    • The Creator Economy: The Relationship Between Creators and Their CommunitiesCrypto is enabling creators to receive value directly from their fans, changing the traditional dynamic of creating and sharing value online.

      The creator economy refers to the relationship between creators and their communities in sharing value with each other. Traditionally, creators have produced value for their fans and ecosystem without a direct way to monetize it. However, with the advent of crypto, this dynamic is changing as everyone is creating and sharing value online, and crypto is providing new opportunities for reciprocation. Cooper Turley defines the creator economy as the relationship between creators and their communities, while Jesse Walden adds that we are all creators on the internet, making and sharing value. Li Jin further emphasizes that crypto is changing the game by enabling creators to receive value directly from their fans. Cooper is actively involved in various crypto projects, Jesse is a venture capitalist investing in the ownership economy, and Li works at a venture fund focused on the passion economy. Together, they bring a wealth of knowledge and experience to the table in discussing the future of the creator economy.

    • The Creator Economy's New Era with CryptoCreators can now monetize through ownership and digital scarcity, align economic incentives, and build richer ecosystems. This marks a new era for creators to be the brand, product, and business in and of themselves.

      We're witnessing a significant shift in the creator economy with the introduction of Web 3 and crypto. The creator economy, which began with the rise of user-generated content on the Internet, has seen various eras of monetization, from advertising to subscriptions and direct user payments. However, with crypto, creators are not only able to monetize through ownership and digital scarcity but also align economic incentives and coordinate with their audiences to build richer ecosystems. This goes beyond the transactional relationships of the past and marks a new era for creators to be the brand, the product, and the business in and of themselves. Examples of these eras include Myspace (act 1), social media like Instagram (act 2), Substack-like platforms (act 3), and the current era with crypto (act 4).

    • A new era of creator economy with crypto and web 3Crypto enables faster economic value transfer, incentivizing creators and distributing ownership to fans in the latest phase of the creator economy

      The creator economy has evolved through different phases, each with unique characteristics and challenges. The latest phase, fueled by crypto and web 3 platforms, offers creators and fans new opportunities for ownership and shared upside. This shift towards an ownership economy is a logical next step, enabling creators to build platforms owned and operated by their users, and enabling fans to show their support financially or socially in deeper ways. Crypto plays a significant role in this evolution by making it possible to move economic value at the same speed and scale as information, incentivizing talented people to contribute and distributing ownership to anyone with an internet connection. This new era of the creator economy offers exciting possibilities for both creators and fans, and the migration towards it is driven by the desire for more meaningful relationships and shared rewards.

    • Creator Economy empowers creators with deeper connections and controlCreator-first companies prioritize creator empowerment, enabling deeper fan connections, more control, and monetization across platforms

      The Creator Economy movement in Web 3 is empowering creators to build deeper connections with their audiences and giving them more control over their work and identity. This shift challenges the power of centralized intermediaries and aggregators, enabling creators to operate as their own "digital nation states" and monetize their content and fanbase across multiple platforms with one unified identity. Lee's tweet, "If you are a creator first company, your cap table should reflect that," emphasizes the importance of prioritizing creator empowerment in business structures. This movement not only benefits creators but also leads to more valuable and loyal fanbases, allowing creators to become powerful partners for brands and companies.

    • Empower creators with ownershipCentralized platforms offer reach and tools but come with risks. Creator-first companies provide equity, portability, and upside, aligning creator interests.

      True creator empowerment lies in giving them ownership in the platforms they build their audiences and businesses on. Centralized platforms may offer some benefits, such as audience reach and content creation tools, but they also come with inherent risks of value extraction and control. Creator-first companies, on the other hand, can provide equity ownership, portability of content, and upside realization, signaling a more authentic commitment to creators. The economic ownership element is crucial for creators to build sustainable businesses and have their interests aligned with the platform's. It's essential for creators to be aware of these distinctions and evaluate platforms based on these fundamentals to avoid building on rented land.

    • The creator economy transforms the American dreamIndividuals can earn financial capital through passions and communities, merging work and financial opportunities, and build communities around interests for potential financial freedom

      The creator economy is transforming the traditional notion of the American dream by offering individuals the opportunity to earn financial capital through their passions and communities. This shift is moving beyond passive consumption and towards active participation, where individuals can propose ideas and contribute value to earn rewards. Transparency in decision-making processes is also crucial, as it empowers individuals to understand how they can affect change and be part of the system. The creator economy is different from the classic American dream as it merges work and financial opportunities, allowing individuals to build communities around their interests and earn from them without sacrificing time. While it may seem out of reach for some, the potential for financial freedom and sovereignty in how one spends their time is a powerful motivator. The future of the creator economy lies in advanced forms of community-driven investment and governance, where individuals can bring value to the table and be compensated for it.

    • Economic inequality in the creator economyThe opportunity lies in the ownership economy, where creators can benefit from the value they help create, potentially bridging income inequality in the creator economy

      Economic inequality is a pressing issue that exacerbates the feeling of the American dream being out of reach for many people. The shrinking middle class and income disparity are significant challenges, especially in the creator economy where a small percentage of creators make significant earnings while the majority struggles. The opportunity lies in the ownership economy, where creators can participate in the upside of the platforms they contribute to, potentially bridging the gap between making ends meet and being in the middle class. However, income inequality persists, and it's essential to address it to make financial stability accessible to more people. The passion economy and crypto offer potential solutions by making entrepreneurship and business ownership more accessible and enabling creators to benefit from the appreciation of the value they help create.

    • Reinventing the middle class through creator economy and decentralized platformsDecentralized platforms like Uniswap offer valuable insights for creator economy's future, enabling creators to earn ownership and financial gains through decentralized ownership models and peer-to-peer payments.

      The creator economy holds global potential to reinvent the middle class through equitable ownership and decentralized platforms. The success stories, like YouTube and Twitch, prove the existence of a vast pool of creators. However, the challenge lies in making these platforms more conducive to the long tail, rather than just the top 1%. Decentralized finance (DeFi) platforms, such as Uniswap, offer valuable insights for the creator economy's future. Uniswap, a decentralized exchange, is owned and governed by its users through token ownership. This ownership model can lead to significant financial gains for active users, even surpassing annual salaries in some cases. Creator platforms can learn from this decentralized ownership model, allowing creators to earn ownership at any level, not just through investments or advisory positions. Additionally, peer-to-peer payments and real-time income collection, as seen in platforms like OnlyFans, can strengthen the connection between creators and their fans, ultimately benefiting the middle class creators.

    • Web3 economy empowers creators with ownership and income opportunitiesWeb3 economy offers creators more than just income, it enables self-ownership, equity, and tokens, leading to personal growth and fulfillment.

      The creator economy in Web3 enables individuals to earn more than just a few dollars through traditional means and instead offers opportunities for ownership, equity, and tokens. This income goes beyond what one could earn from a 9 to 5 job, making it an attractive alternative for many. The discussion also touched on the potential of DAOs and the Uniswap grants program, which offers opportunities for individuals to contribute and shape these decentralized organizations. As a creator in this economy, the relationship with oneself changes as one gains sovereignty and self-empowerment through owning their own assets and being in control of their creations. This shift towards self-ownership and autonomy can lead to greater personal growth and fulfillment.

    • Creator economy empowers fans and content creatorsFans can collaborate, earn income, and be part of DAOs, while creators have permissionless opportunities to contribute and social skills are essential.

      The creator economy shifts the power dynamic between content creators and audiences, making social media a valuable tool rather than a source of negative emotions. This evolution brings opportunities for fans to collaborate with their idols, earn income through skills like social coordination and organization, and be part of decentralized autonomous organizations (DAOs). Unlike traditional jobs, the creator economy is permissionless, allowing individuals to contribute in various ways without being told what to do. Social skills are essential in this new economy, and opportunities exist for those who may feel left out due to a lack of technical knowledge. DAOs play a significant role in the creator economy by providing clear directions for involvement and enabling the creation of value through collaboration.

    • The creator economy and crypto through DAOsDAOs enable creators to build and monetize value through decentralized governance and internal competition using smart contracts and NFTs.

      The intersection of the creator economy and crypto, specifically through the use of DAOs (Decentralized Autonomous Organizations), is leading to new and innovative ways for creators to build and monetize value on the internet. This includes the use of smart contracts to pool resources and bid on NFTs, as well as the development of decentralized products that can outcompete centralized organizations. The potential for DAOs to grow into sophisticated entities, even surpassing the size and scale of companies like Facebook, may seem far-fetched, but the success of decentralized projects like Uniswap demonstrates the power of decentralized governance and internal competition. The future of the creator economy in the crypto space is still unfolding, but it holds the potential for significant disruption and innovation.

    • The Future of Creator Economy with DAOs and CryptoDAOs economically and politically align more participants, including fans, in a creator's operations, offering opportunities for involvement in DeFi, NFTs, social tokens, and DAOs.

      The future of creators and their ability to build bigger businesses lies in Decentralized Autonomous Organizations (DAOs) and crypto technology. Historically, creators have been limited in their growth due to the economic value not being properly distributed and fans not feeling aligned with their success. DAOs offer a solution by economically and politically aligning more participants, including fans, in a creator's operations. Cooper is bullish on DAOs, comparing them to the new LLC, and predicts a massive inflection point in their adoption. Platforms like Audius, Friends with Benefits, PleaserDAO, and Bankless DAO are leading the way in the creator economy, offering opportunities for involvement in DeFi, NFTs, social tokens, and DAOs.

    • Recommended Platforms for NFT Creators and DevelopersFoundation for artists, Zuora for developers, Mirror for writers, Right Race and Axie Infinity for unique opportunities. Don't be discouraged by rough edges, join a community or DAO to make an impact.

      The NFT and creator economy space is rapidly evolving, and there are various platforms that cater to different types of creators and use cases. Jesse recommends Foundation for NFT artists and Zuora for developers, while Mirror is suggested for writers looking to monetize their audience in web3 native ways. Lee adds Right Race and Axie Infinity to the list, highlighting the unique onboarding process and income-earning opportunities, respectively. The overall advice for those looking to get involved is to not be discouraged by the rough edges of the crypto and NFT space, as it's still in its nascent stage but is expected to grow quickly. Additionally, joining an established community or DAO can be a valuable contribution for those looking to make an impact in this space.

    • Joining the creator economy through social tokens and DAOsLearn about social tokens and DAOs by participating, experimenting, and contributing to the community. Don't be discouraged by complexities, and remember, potential rewards make it an exciting frontier.

      Getting involved in the creator economy through social tokens and DAOs is less about financial gains and more about the social capital and learning opportunities that come with it. Don't be discouraged by the complexities of the space, but rather learn by doing. Start by participating in a Discord server or buying some social tokens to understand the ecosystem better. Remember, Ethereum, crypto, and DeFi are risky, but the potential rewards make it an exciting frontier. So, if you're interested in the creator economy, don't just watch from the sidelines. Jump in, learn, and contribute to the community. As always, none of this is financial advice. Just like the Bankless journey, you learn by doing in the creator economy. Additionally, the panelists emphasized the importance of learning the basics before creating your own projects. They encouraged people to experiment and try their hand at being a creator, whether it's through minting an NFT or buying social tokens. And if you're watching on YouTube, don't forget to like and subscribe to help spread the knowledge to more people. In conclusion, the creator economy offers unique opportunities for social connections, learning, and potential financial gains. Don't be afraid to dive in, start small, and learn by doing. As the panelists mentioned, it's a risky frontier, but one that's worth exploring.

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    https://x.com/milesdeutscher/status/1800190273517211699

    26:09 Any Bulls Left? 
    https://x.com/econoar/status/1805447135141544280 
    https://x.com/milesdeutscher/status/1805249025643581761 
    https://x.com/fejau_inc/status/1805242741494005780     
    https://x.com/intangiblecoins/status/1805244957252284916 
    https://x.com/intangiblecoins/status/1805244973261914582 
    https://x.com/pythianism/status/1805608579422208061 
    https://x.com/pythianism/status/1804987849059787113 
    https://x.com/iamDCinvestor/status/1804998114090389795 
    https://x.com/cburniske/status/1805308535611502763 
    https://imgur.com/DXcyjMS

    43:27  Closing & Disclosures

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    enJune 26, 2024

    The Case for Authoritarianism | Vitalik Buterin & Noah Smith

    The Case for Authoritarianism | Vitalik Buterin & Noah Smith

    What if the information anarchy of the internet spells the downfall of liberalism?

    Economist Noah Smith and Ethereum Founder Vitalik Buterin join us for a fascinating discussion on why Authoritarianism might be the answer to the current information warfare. Yes, you heard that right.

    We start the episode by defining liberalism, how it has brought excessive polarization and why totalitarianism might be the only solution left. We then steelman the case against this same argument and how blockchains and crypto could play a role in all this.

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    8:53 Defining Liberalism
    21:50 Information Warfare
    42:17 Summarizing the Argument
    55:09 Could the Thesis be Wrong?
    1:11:12 Information Leviathans
    1:34:13 The Role of Blockchains
    1:38:22 Closing & Disclaimers

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    https://x.com/VitalikButerin  

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    enJune 25, 2024

    Why We Should Fight for Freedom of Speech | Greg Lukianoff

    Why We Should Fight for Freedom of Speech | Greg Lukianoff

    Why should we fight for Freedom of Speech?

    That’s the question that Free Speech Lawyer and Writer Greg Lukianoff helps us answer today.

    Using first principles, Greg goes deep into the importance of Freedom of Speech, “Free Speech Culture”, what happens to Free Speech when new technologies like the printing press and the internet are introduced, and how all this intersects with blockchains and crypto.

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    6:19 Defining Free Speech
    15:59 Free Speech Origins
    19:43 The Printing Press
    37:11 The Constitution
    39:50 Free Speech Culture
    47:48 What Protects Free Speech
    55:57 Generational Differences
    1:09:17 Censorship Societies
    1:16:29 The Internet
    1:21:04 AI & Free Speech
    1:23:04 Web2 Censorship
    1:27:17 Freedom to Transact
    1:36:38 Privacy
    1:38:30 How to Get Involved
    1:40:49 Closing & Disclaimers

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    RESOURCES

    Greg Lukianoff
    https://x.com/glukianoff 

    The Eternally Radical Idea Newsletter
    https://greglukianoff.substack.com/  

    FIRE
    https://www.thefire.org/  

    Support FIRE Today!
    https://www.thefire.org/donate  

    The Canceling of the American Mind
    https://www.amazon.com/Canceling-American-Mind-Undermines-Threatens-ebook/dp/B0BTZT9PLM/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&sr=8-1  

    Free Speech: A History from Socrates to Social Media 
    https://www.amazon.com/Free-Speech-History-Socrates-Social/dp/1541600495/ref=sr_1_1?sr=8-1  

    Revolution in the Age of Social Media
    https://www.amazon.com/Revolution-Age-Social-Media-Insurrection-ebook/dp/B00GVZJWAM  

    Free Speech, The People's Darling Privilege
    https://www.amazon.com/Free-Speech-Peoples-Darling-Privilege/dp/0822325292  

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    enJune 24, 2024

    ROLLUP: ETH Beats SEC! | Trump Coin? | LayerZero Token | ETH ETF Trading Soon

    ROLLUP: ETH Beats SEC! | Trump Coin? | LayerZero Token | ETH ETF Trading Soon

    Bankless Friday Weekly Rollup 
    3rd Week of June 2024


    The SEC drops all charges against Ethereum 2.0—could it now be recognized as a commodity? Plus, hints surface about the launch date of the ETH ETF!


    Airdrop season is still alive and well! LayerZero and zkSync tokens launched recently. Find out if you’re eligible and the market’s reaction.


    And, did Baron Trump really launch a DJT memecoin on Solana? We unpack the latest buzz and drama. Tune in for all the details and so much more!


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    0:00 Intro


    2:55 MARKET
    https://x.com/WhalePanda/status/1802958996392870368 
    https://www.theblock.co/data/crypto-markets/bitcoin-etf/spot-bitcoin-etf-flows 
    https://x.com/CryptoDonAlt/status/1802743515941609572 
    https://www.tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=AMEX%3ASPY 
    https://x.com/saylor/status/1803763490928119950 


    9:35 ETH Price & ETH ETF Going Live 
    https://x.com/EricBalchunas/status/1801725292404261308 


    13:03 Total Crypto Market Cap


    13:46 L2Beat
    https://dune.com/hildobby/blobs 
    https://dune.com/sealaunch/dex-metrics-on-base?Select+Date+Granularity_ed0f38=week&Select+Timeframe_ed47bb=365 
    https://imgur.com/YuXZfAv 
    https://x.com/WazzCrypto/status/1803858912166449480 
    https://twitter.com/wbnns/status/1803217959479025857 
     
    18:40 Combo ETH + BTC ETF
    https://x.com/NateGeraci/status/1803080047303036971 
    https://x.com/Matt_Hougan/status/1803767324605886515 
    https://x.com/matthew_sigel/status/1801342560977190937 
    https://youtu.be/T2Ur8Dhc3uQ?si=Obqn5eY89sEUEdwi 
    https://youtu.be/KUMGYEKIiGw?si=fS4pae1N_rr1f0C0  


    21:35 AIRDROP Season in full swing
    Bankless Claimables and AIrdrop Hunter
    https://www.bankless.com/claimables/reveal 
    https://x.com/LayerZero_Fndn/status/1803744985029788042 
    https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/layerzero 
    https://x.com/LayerZero_Fndn/status/1803742303204323494 
    https://layerzero.foundation/claim 
    https://www.theblock.co/post/300389/zksync-live-mcap-airdrop 
    https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/zksync 
    https://x.com/TheZKNation/status/1802626483770265991 
    https://x.com/TheZKNation/status/1801378349442269345 
    https://docs.zknation.io/zk-token/zk-token-faq 
    https://x.com/nansen_ai/status/1803003153820082270  
    https://x.com/cobie/status/1803071393484939602 


    31:58 MOTHER + DADDY Update 
    https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/mother-iggy 
    https://x.com/IGGYAZALEA 
    https://x.com/jimcramer/status/1800893795346637193 
    https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/daddy-tate 


    37:21 What’s going on with $DJT? 
    https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/trumpcoin-2 
    https://x.com/PirateWires/status/1802825492405669930 
    https://www.newsweek.com/crypto-djt-barron-trump-martin-shkreli-1915147 
    https://x.com/ArkhamIntel/status/1803161788164288875 
    https://x.com/ArkhamIntel/status/1803471430727901455 
    https://x.com/zachxbt/status/1803240784436797871 
    https://x.com/zachxbt/status/1803371615524364503 
    https://x.com/jmgramke/status/1803792368388264399 
    https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1803759609808564306 
    https://x.com/MartinShkreli/status/1803821631279612367 


    50:38 U.S. SEC closes investigation in Ethereum!
    https://x.com/Consensys/status/1803230653120659641 
    https://x.com/laurabrooksie1/status/1803237492130234633 
    https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1803412140289560849 
    https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1803783619997052977 


    54:30 BitWise launches a new Ethereum ad for their incoming ETH ETF 
    https://x.com/BitwiseInvest/status/1803789737620078875 
    https://zora.co/collect/base:0x9ada0269656e7855c95f54a34d4ef94f78892038/1 


    1:00:12 Kraken exploit for 3m and some drama - vs Certik 
    https://x.com/c7five/status/1803403565865771370 
    https://x.com/P3b7_/status/1803479749005549647 
    https://x.com/tayvano_/status/1803478049280893040 
    https://x.com/sethforprivacy/status/1803520795735683528 


    1:06:34 Donald Trump wants all remaining Bitcoin to be 'Made in USA'
    https://x.com/intangiblecoins/status/1801771689249787936 


    1:08:06 Optimism & Tether Releases
    https://x.com/Optimism/status/1800974991313469445 
    https://chain.box 
    https://x.com/Alloy_tether/status/1802676443781923289 


    1:10:45 Bankless ETHCC Meetup
    https://lu.ma/k0amrrnz 


    1:12:10 Who won the ETH ETF Pitch competition? 
    https://www.jokerace.io/contest/base/0x0f2211f6727e85dbfae20e7dbfe57875a1f2b706 


    1:13:45 Another voting for Bankless Nation! 
    https://www.jokerace.io/contest/base/0x0bac0ec9b6aeafa6c2212f67a67950940eda63a7 


    1:15:38 MEME of the Week 
    https://x.com/PleasrDAO/status/1803572250278514999 


    1:16:17 Closing & Disclaimers


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    enJune 21, 2024

    Diaries of an ETH Maxi on Wall Street | Sam Jernigan

    Diaries of an ETH Maxi on Wall Street | Sam Jernigan

    Sam Jernigan, the “Unofficial ETH Maxi of Wall Street”, has been evangelizing Ethereum to institutional funds and billionaires from inside the house for the past five years.

    Having the perfect blend of deep Ethereum knowledge and the full Wall Street experience, Sam guides us through how he became an ETH Maxi, why the lack of understanding of ETH in TradFi is the most bullish case for the asset and what the future holds for ETH institutional adoption.

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    7:47 Defining TradFi
    20:05 Ethereum’s P/E Ratio
    23:49 Sam’s Background
    40:44 Becoming an ETH Maxi
    52:57 The State of ETH in TradFi
    57:38 ETH Bull Case
    1:06:11 The Flippening
    1:12:11 ETH ETF
    1:19:26 Security vs Commodity Debate
    1:24:00 TradFi: Friend or Foe?
    1:34:39 Regulation
    1:46:07 Closing & Disclaimers

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    Sam Jernigan on X
    https://x.com/sjerniganiv  

    Sam Jernigan on LikedIn
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    enJune 19, 2024

    ETH to $22k by 2030? | VanEck's Matthew Sigel

    ETH to $22k by 2030? | VanEck's Matthew Sigel

    In this episode, David Hoffman is joined by Matthew Sigel, Head of Digital Assets Research at VanEck, to unpack VanEck's groundbreaking ETH 2030 report. They discuss the $154,000 bull case, $22,000 base case, and $340 bear case for Ethereum, and the factors behind these predictions. 

    Matthew dives deep into the role of ETH ETFs and shares insights into ETH's evolving narrative in institutional portfolios. He also provides interesting analogies and comparisons between ETH and Web 2.0, explaining how VanEck will help traditional investors understand and invest in ETH using these narratives and real market data. 

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    7:16 VanEck Vibe Check ?
    8:11 VanEck ETH 2030 Price Prediction Report 
    12:31 Last Year’s Report vs. Present Report 
    15:10 Ethereum Narrative For Retail
    19:14 Pitching ETH To Customers
    25:15 Parameters For Bear, Base & Bull?
    28:49 What If ETH Reaches $154,000 
    32:31 ETH’s Most Bearish & Bullish Scenarios 
    33:40 Solana’s MEV vs. ETH’s MEV
    41:28  BTC & ETH Allocation In Portfolio 
    45:59 Can Data Help Matthew Convince Customers?
    49:30 $15B In ETF Assets
    50:30 Closing & Disclosures 

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    Matthew Sigel
    https://x.com/matthew_sigel 

    VanEck
    https://www.vaneck.com/us/en/ 
    https://www.vaneck.com/us/en/blogs/digital-assets/matthew-sigel-eth-2030-price-target/ 

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    enJune 18, 2024

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