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    The economics of Brexit - This is Money podcast

    enFebruary 19, 2016

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    • Impact of Economic Changes on the General PublicThe economic relationship between the UK and EU affects everyone, automation threatens jobs, young people struggle with homeownership and pensions, and haggling remains effective for loyalty cards.

      The economic relationship between the UK and the EU continues to be a hot topic, with business implications dominating the debate, but it's essential to consider the impact on the general public as well. Meanwhile, the rise of automation threatens many jobs, emphasizing the importance of keeping skills up-to-date. Additionally, young people face challenges in achieving homeownership and securing decent pensions. Lastly, don't underestimate the power of haggling when it comes to loyalty cards, as many rewards have been cut, yet 80% of us still carry them. Overall, it's crucial to stay informed and adapt to the changing economic landscape.

    • UK EU Membership Debate: Beyond Business and EconomyThe EU membership debate in the UK involves more than just business and economic concerns, as individuals and consumers also have stakes and considerations like sovereignty and personal freedoms. Recent research suggests a British exit might not have long-term negative effects, but uncertainty and disagreement remain.

      The EU membership debate in the UK is a complex issue with strong arguments on both sides, and it's not just about business and the economy. Consumers and individuals also have a stake in the decision, and their concerns include sovereignty and personal freedoms. The recent research commissioned by star fund manager Neil Woodford suggests that a British withdrawal from the EU might not have the long-term negative impact on the UK economy that some fear, and it could even bring benefits in the short term. However, the debate is far from settled, and there's a lot of uncertainty and disagreement, even among business voices. Ultimately, the decision will be a difficult one for many people, and it's important to consider all the facts and perspectives before making a choice.

    • Brexit's Economic Impact: A Calmer Perspective from Neil WoodfordDespite decreasing UK exports to EU and potential tariffs, long-term economic impact on UK might not be as severe as feared according to a report by Neil Woodford and Capital Economics

      The relationship between Britain and the EU is compared to that of a tempestuous couple or warring parents, but the economics of Brexit, as presented by renowned investor Neil Woodford, suggests that the impact on the UK economy might not be as significant as feared. Neil Woodford, a well-known and successful British investor, has commissioned a report by Capital Economics titled "Brexit, the economic implications," which provides a nonpartisan analysis of the economics of Britain's relationship with the EU. The report highlights that the percentage of UK exports to the EU has decreased from over 60% to about 50%, with goods exporting less significant than services. Additionally, tariffs, which could be imposed if the UK leaves the EU without a free trade agreement, have significantly decreased over the years. The report concludes that while there would be short-term volatility and uncertainty, the long-term economic impact on the UK might not be as drastic as some fear. This perspective can provide a calming influence on the ongoing Brexit debate.

    • Brexit's Impact on HSBC and the PoundHSBC's decision to stay in London ends Brexit-related uncertainty, but the economy faces challenges from automation.

      The uncertainty surrounding Brexit and its potential impact on businesses, specifically in relation to HSBC's decision to stay in London, could have significant short-term effects on the pound but may not last. Additionally, cooperation with the EU and worker protections are other factors to consider. The announcement from HSBC that they will no longer be conducting regular evaluations of their headquarters location brings an end to the speculation and potential threats to leave, which some argue have influenced banking regulations. Overall, the economy is showing signs of a strong recovery with record employment numbers and growth across all regions. However, the rise of automation may pose a threat to jobs, particularly for young people.

    • Wage growth outpacing inflation but concerns about sustainabilityEconomy sees wage growth, but uncertainty surrounds long-term impact due to low productivity and potential job automation

      The economy is experiencing a period of wage growth outpacing inflation, but there are concerns about the sustainability of this trend due to low productivity and potential automation of jobs. The removal of artificial barriers with the implementation of universal credit and the introduction of the national living wage are expected to result in significant pay rises for millions, but there is uncertainty about the overall economic impact and the potential for inflation to rise. Employment figures show a decrease in unemployment, but there is concern about the slow wage growth and the potential for companies to reduce pay rises in response to low inflation. The economy is creating jobs at a steady pace, but there is a worry that automation and technological advancements could lead to the obsoletion of certain jobs, particularly in industries like tree trimming. Companies need to invest in their workforce and improve productivity to enable higher wages, but they remain cautious about spending extra money. The long-term impact of these trends on the jobs market and the economy as a whole is uncertain.

    • Jobs at risk from automation37% of workers believe their jobs will be done by robots in 20 years, but individuals can future-proof their careers by specializing and becoming indispensable, even in high-skilled industries like healthcare and journalism

      The job market is rapidly changing due to automation and artificial intelligence, and it's essential for individuals to keep their skills up-to-date to remain relevant in the workforce. Machine operators, plant managers, and administrative staff are among the most at-risk jobs, as tasks that can be automated are likely to be taken over by machines. The report identifies areas like Exeter, Crawley, Norwich, and Sunderland as being particularly vulnerable to automation. However, not all workers are concerned about the impact of robots on their jobs, as only 37% of respondents in a poll agreed that their jobs would be done by robots in 20 years. Instead, they seem more worried about Brexit. To future-proof their careers, individuals need to specialize in their fields and become indispensable. This trend is not limited to low-skilled workers; even surgeons and journalists are at risk of losing their jobs to automation. This shift is already being seen in sectors like banking and finance, where bank branches are being closed and automated news is becoming more common.

    • Banking and Retirement: Changing LandscapeOnline banking and disappearing pensions may require longer work tenures and increased savings for retirement, leaving individuals to bear more financial risk.

      The way we bank and prepare for retirement is changing, and these shifts may bring challenges. With more people banking online and fewer branches, there's less need for bank employees. Meanwhile, a new study warns that young people may need to work and save continuously from age 22 until 77 to secure a decent pension. Parents are concerned about their children's future job prospects due to the increasing need for longer work tenures. Traditional final salary pensions have largely disappeared, leaving individuals to bear more retirement savings risk. Some have suggested that retirement as we know it may be coming to an end, but the majority will likely still retire, just with fewer financial comforts. The upcoming budget may bring further changes to the pension system, adding uncertainty to an already complex situation.

    • Potential Changes to Tax System and Impact on PensionsThe tax system may change, potentially affecting pensions, and the complexity of pension-related issues was emphasized. A divorcee may struggle to claim a deceased ex-husband's state pension, and young people face challenges in retirement and homeownership due to rising house prices and a lack of supply.

      The discussion revolved around potential changes to the tax system, specifically the possibility of moving towards a flat rate, and how it could impact individuals, particularly those with pensions. The complexity of pension-related issues was highlighted, with a specific question about a divorcee claiming a deceased ex-husband's state pension being addressed, but ultimately the answer being that she likely wouldn't be able to. The conversation also touched on the challenges young people face in terms of retirement and homeownership, with rising house prices and a lack of supply making it increasingly difficult for many to afford a home. The housing crisis was acknowledged, and the need for more affordable homes was emphasized. Overall, the conversation underscored the complexity of financial matters and the need for accurate information and expert advice.

    • Housing Market Challenges: Rising Prices and Affordability IssuesThe UK housing market is experiencing significant price increases, making it difficult for many to afford homes. Average house prices are projected to double in the next 15 years, with affluent areas seeing even greater growth. The government needs to address the lack of affordable housing and consider the potential for a housing market slump.

      The housing market in England is facing significant challenges, with house prices rising much faster than wages, making it difficult for many people, particularly those on low and middle incomes, to afford homes. The average house price in the UK is now £288,000, and it's projected to double in the next 15 years, reaching an average of £560,000. This trend is particularly pronounced in affluent areas like Kensington and Chelsea, where 70% of properties are expected to be worth over £1,000,000 by 2030. The government needs to build more affordable homes and replace the social homes lost through policies like right to buy. While some forecasts suggest house prices will continue to rise, others believe a housing market slump is possible. For those who have managed to buy a home, fixing mortgage rates could be a wise move to protect against potential future price increases.

    • First Direct offers cheapest 10-year fixed rate mortgage but with high deposit requirementHaggle for better home insurance deals to save money, as over half of those who negotiate did in a recent survey, despite rising costs and insurance premium tax increase.

      While First Direct offers the cheapest 10-year fixed rate mortgage on the market at 2.89%, it comes with significant restrictions, requiring a 40% deposit or equity stake. The long-term commitment could save money on interest rates, but it also limits flexibility and could lead to early repayment charges if a move becomes necessary. Meanwhile, in the world of insurance, consumers are encouraged to haggle for better deals, as over half of those who do saved money on home insurance premiums in a recent survey. However, just as many people do not attempt to negotiate, allowing insurers to potentially increase prices during renewal periods. With home insurance costs rising by 3% in just three months and insurance premiums up 7% overall, the importance of haggling cannot be overstated. Additionally, the increase in insurance premium tax from 6% to 9.5% in last year's budget has contributed to the overall price rise.

    • Shopping around and negotiating insurance pricesLoyalty doesn't always pay off in insurance. Comparing policies and negotiating prices can lead to significant savings.

      Individuals can save significant amounts of money on insurance by shopping around and haggling with their providers. The discussion highlighted that many people do not compare insurance policies or haggle for better prices, leading to higher profits for insurance companies. This practice, in turn, subsidizes lower prices for those who take the time to compare and negotiate. The EU's rule change on interchange fees has led to some loyalty schemes and reward programs becoming less attractive, making it even more crucial for consumers to focus on getting the best deals on insurance and other essential services. Overall, the message is clear: loyalty does not always pay off, and taking the time to research and negotiate can lead to substantial savings.

    • Traditional loyalty schemes losing appealRetailers must innovate and offer personalized, rewarding loyalty programs as consumers seek immediate value and traditional schemes funded by interchange fees face changes.

      The traditional loyalty schemes using points or stamps are losing their appeal as consumers demand immediate value for their money. The EU's cap on interchange fees has led to the elimination of certain loyalty programs, and retailers must adapt to keep customers engaged. Loyalty schemes originated in the 1980s with the introduction of Sainsbury's Spend and Save card and Tesco's Club Card, which revolutionized shopping by tailoring offers based on customer data. Credit card loyalty schemes, such as Air Miles and John Lewis Partnership card, have also gained popularity. However, these programs were partly funded by interchange fees, and their benefits may change as a result of the EU's intervention. Consumers must now be more conscious of their spending and seek immediate value, making it crucial for retailers to innovate and offer more personalized and rewarding loyalty programs.

    • Disappointment with Opaque Loyalty ProgramsConsumers value clear and transparent pricing, and complex loyalty programs may deter usage despite perceived benefits.

      The opacity and complexity of loyalty card programs can be frustrating for consumers, even when they offer perceived benefits. The speaker in this conversation expressed disappointment after receiving a letter from Marks and Spencer reducing the rewards for using their credit card outside of their store. They saw it as a confection added to shopping to make it more complicated, and questioned the transparency of the pricing. However, despite these criticisms, the speaker acknowledged that many people still enjoy and use loyalty cards. The speaker personally prefers a simpler approach and doesn't carry any loyalty cards or points in their wallet. Overall, the conversation highlighted the importance of clear and transparent pricing for consumers and the potential drawbacks of overly complex loyalty programs.

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