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    The Four Wars of the AI Stack - An Update with Swyx and Alessio of Latent Space

    en-usMarch 28, 2024

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    • The AI Industry's Four Major Wars: Data, Model, Infrastructure, and TalentIn 2023, Alessio and Swix identified the data war, model war, infrastructure war, and talent war as major conflicts shaping the AI industry. Being GPU rich and realigning battles around big tech are important considerations in these wars. An upcoming AI education beta focuses on practical, hands-on learning.

      According to Alessio and Swix from Latent Space, the AI industry is currently experiencing four major wars in the AI stack: the data war, the model war, the infrastructure war, and the talent war. These wars are shaping the AI landscape, with companies and individuals vying for dominance in each area. Alessio introduced this framework in 2023 as a way to understand the significance of various news events in the field. In the conversation, they also discussed the importance of being GPU rich and realigning battles around big tech. The AI education beta mentioned by the host is an upcoming project focused on practical, hands-on learning in AI. Stay tuned for more updates on this initiative.

    • The intense competition in AI industry drives 'wars' for resourcesFocusing solely on resources for success may not build a sustainable business in the AI industry. Finding niches where larger companies aren't present can provide opportunities for startups.

      The competition in the AI industry is intense, with limited resources, particularly talent and access to advanced hardware like GPUs, driving the "wars" between companies. Inflection, a well-funded startup, serves as a recent example of this reality. While being GPU rich is important, it's not the only factor for success. Startups can find opportunities in niches where larger companies may not be interested. The inflection team's move to Microsoft might not be solely due to resource constraints but could be a strategic decision. Ultimately, focusing solely on acquiring resources may not build a sustainable business.

    • GPU-rich AI companies face challenges despite access to large GPUsDespite access to vast GPU resources, leaving GPU-focused AI companies doesn't guarantee success in the field, as the industry undergoes consolidation and new startups innovate in various areas.

      The departure of key personnel from GPU-rich AI companies Stability AI and Inflection AI does not automatically guarantee success in the field of AI, despite having access to large numbers of GPUs. This news comes as a potential sign of a consolidation wave in the industry, with many companies still figuring out their business models. The majority of new AI startups have already distinguished themselves from the GPU-focused companies, innovating in different areas. The calls for an AI winter or a trough of disillusionment are often made by those who are skeptical of AI or by media seeking a new narrative, while investment and individual behavior change continue at impressive levels.

    • AI sector consolidation is inevitableDespite the challenges, product innovation and user experience differentiation are crucial in the competitive image generation market, where consolidation is inevitable due to limited resources.

      While there may be numerous players in various AI sectors like chatbot platforms and image generation, consolidation is inevitable due to the limited addressable market. The venture capital industry follows a natural process where not every company receives funding at every round. However, this shouldn't be mistaken as a sign that AI isn't as big or relevant as hyped up. Product innovation and user experience differentiation are crucial in image generation, where the race is to create better models. Multi-modality, such as Soara, offers a different impact on viewers, appealing to the creative mind. Nevertheless, not all companies can survive the competition, and it's a collective "war" for limited resources. The excitement around new companies doesn't negate the eventual consolidation.

    • Large companies with access to multiple modalities are leading the way in AI developmentLarge companies with resources from various modalities are advancing AI technology faster, putting smaller, dedicated modality companies at a disadvantage, but niche players can still find success by capturing a broader audience

      The landscape of AI development is shifting towards large, multimodality companies, as the benefits of having access to synthetic data and resources from multiple modalities become increasingly clear. This was highlighted by the recent release of Soera, which significantly advanced the field of video generation and was developed in a similar way to OpenAI's DALL E 3. The synergy between different modalities allows for greater innovation and progress, putting smaller, dedicated modality companies at a disadvantage. However, there are still opportunities for niche players, as demonstrated by the success of music model company Suno AI, which has managed to capture the interest of a broader audience and could follow a similar business model as OpenAI. It's recommended to read the blog posts from both Soera and DALL E to gain a better understanding of this trend and its implications.

    • The importance of collaboration between advanced AI models and access to large datasets for AI companiesCollaborating advanced AI models in-house is a significant advantage for dedicated modality companies. Data, next to GPUs, is the most expensive component in an AI company, and the recent Reddit-Google deal highlights its growing value. Synthetic data could be a potential solution for those without access to large datasets, but its legality is uncertain.

      Having multiple advanced AI models in-house and allowing them to collaborate is a significant advantage that a dedicated modality company cannot provide. This was discussed in relation to the limitations of many AI features in popular products and the need for complex pipelines and rigorous testing that most startups lack. Another significant topic touched upon was the increasing importance of data in the AI landscape. The recent Reddit-Google deal, which saw Google paying $60 million for access to Reddit data ahead of its IPO, highlights the growing value of data in the model stack. The deal is also not exclusive, meaning Reddit can sell the data to others. This data, which includes vote scores, was used in the creation of earlier GPT models. The data war is heating up, and data, next to GPUs, is expected to be the most expensive component in an AI company. The trend towards synthetic data is also emerging as a potential solution for those without access to large datasets. However, the legality of creating synthetic data is uncertain. Quentin Anthony from Luther AI, who has been working on the data side, emphasized the need for making good datasets accessible to those without vast resources. The enterprise's increasing interest in data could lead to more paywalls, but it worked for Reddit, which saw its stock rise 40% after the deal was announced.

    • The Debate over Synthetic Data in Machine LearningSynthetic data is a necessary component for high-performing machine learning models, but society needs to have a debate on its use due to transparency and ethical concerns. Good synthetic data is crucial for optimal model performance, and recent developments include Gemini's announcement and Claude 3.

      The use of synthetic data in machine learning models is a topic of ongoing debate, with concerns around transparency and ethical implications. The speaker suggests that society needs to have a debate on the issue, as the use of synthetic data is becoming increasingly common and necessary for high-performing models. The speaker also compares the current state of synthetic data to the transition from Napster to Spotify in the music industry, implying that it may take a decade for society to figure out the best practices. Despite the ongoing debate, it is clear that synthetic data will be a crucial component of large models moving forward. The speaker encourages thinking about synthetic data like cholesterol, with good and bad versions, and emphasizes the importance of obtaining good synthetic data for optimal model performance. Recent developments include Gemini's announcement and release of models, as well as Claude 3. The speaker also mentions the importance of legal decisions in shaping the use of synthetic data and the ongoing research in the field.

    • Impact of Claude 3 from Anthropic in Large Language ModelsClaude 3 from Anthropic outperforms GPT-4 from OpenAI in certain use cases, leading to a shift in sentiment in the community and increasing Anthropic's credibility in the field.

      According to the speaker's personal experience and observation, Claude 3 from Anthropic has made a significant impact in the field of large language models, surpassing the capabilities of GPT-4 from OpenAI in certain use cases, particularly in writing. The speaker's observation is not just based on their own experience with the models on their podcast use case, but also on the general sentiment in the community, where people are switching over from ChatGPT to Claude 3 for their daily tasks. This shift in sentiment has made Anthropic look more credible as a player in the field, although the speaker believes it's not a full knock for OpenAI as people are still waiting for GPt-5. The speaker also mentions that the benchmarks barrier might be lifted this year as more people are using these models in production and can compare their performance directly.

    • Shifting focus from benchmarks to user experienceCompanies prioritize product functionality over benchmark scores, putting pressure on new models to offer unique features and superior user experiences

      In the world of language models, benchmarks are becoming less important as companies focus more on creating effective and functional products rather than trying to outperform each other on metrics. This shift was highlighted in a recent discussion about Adapt, a language model that explicitly stated they did not include benchmarks in their model releases because they prioritize product functionality over benchmark scores. This trend puts significant pressure on new models, such as GPT-5, to offer unique features and capabilities to stand out from the competition. The focus is no longer just on having a larger context window or perfect recall, but on delivering a superior user experience.

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