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    The Hope of Pleasure in What you Make

    enNovember 19, 2021

    About this Episode

    In his book, Breaking Things at Work, Gavin Meuller argues that we can’t think of technology in the workplace as “just” a tool but always as a tool created for a specific purpose to benefit specific groups and exploit others. As such, breaking machines in the workplace--which means many things--has been and will continue to be an important point of struggle for establishing worker autonomy, solidarity, and fair treatment. 

    Dr. Mueller Mueller is  Assistant Professor of New Media and Digital Culture at the University of Amsterdam. He’s also a member of the editorial collective of Viewpoint Magazine. Breaking Things at Work: The Luddites Are Right about Why You Hate Your Job is available from Verso.

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    Credits

    Producer: Daniel Fermín

    Music: Composed and performed by Samuel Haines. 

    Artwork: Daniel Fermín

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    Breaking Things at Work: The Luddites Are Right about Why You Hate Your Job 

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    Inventing the Future by Nick Srnicek and Alex Williams.

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