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    The Kidnapping of Ape #8398

    enJuly 26, 2024
    When were Non-Fungible Tokens (NFTs) first introduced?
    What year did NFTs gain mainstream attention?
    How have NFTs changed the digital art market?
    What is the current floor price for Board Ape NFTs?
    Who expressed regret for their NFT investment decisions?

    Podcast Summary

    • NFT BeginningsNFTs began in 2014, offering unique digital ownership for pixelated images, GIFs, and later digital art, music, and domain names, leading to multimillion-dollar sales in the art world

      The birth of Non-Fungible Tokens (NFTs) at a technology conference in 2014 marked the beginning of a new era in the digital art world. The unique value of each NFT, which cannot be exchanged for something of equal value, led to the creation of digital collectibles, such as pixelated images and animated GIFs, which were sold for thousands and even millions of dollars in the following years. The NFT market started as a niche interest for crypto enthusiasts but gained mainstream attention and massive financial investments from the high-end art world in late 2020. The value of NFTs lies not in the art itself but in the unique digital ownership rights that come with each purchase. This technology has revolutionized the way we perceive and trade digital assets, from art and music to domain names.

    • Celebrity-NFT allianceManagers see NFTs as new investment opportunities for their celebrity clients, despite initial skepticism, due to the rapid growth and potential for high returns in the NFT market

      The alliance between celebrities and NFTs (Non-Fungible Tokens) can be attributed to the unique dynamic between managers, who cultivate their clients' careers, and the new investment opportunities presented by NFTs. My friend Dick Doyle, a high-profile Hollywood manager, initially found the concept of NFTs confusing but came to see their value in the context of the fire sale quality of the NFT market. Despite his initial skepticism, he recognized that the NFT market offers a new avenue for investment and career opportunities for his celebrity clients. The NFT market's rapid growth and the potential for high returns have made it an attractive proposition for celebrities and their managers, leading to the strange alliance that has emerged in the digital art world.

    • NFTs in Hollywood ethicsThe gold rush mentality in Hollywood's NFT market raises ethical concerns as some sell intellectual property without fully understanding or establishing the medium, and potential buyers should consider the long-term implications before investing.

      The world of NFTs (Non-Fungible Tokens) in Hollywood is experiencing a gold rush mentality, with many famous personalities and industry insiders quickly jumping on the bandwagon to monetize their assets. Quentin Tarantino, for instance, is selling NFTs based on his handwritten Pulp Fiction script, which until now had only been seen by a typist in 1993. This trend has raised concerns about the ethics and sustainability of this new market, as some people are selling every piece of their intellectual property without fully understanding or establishing the medium itself. The mental calculation for potential buyers is, "Who knows, art is subjective, but there's a gold rush here that I find a little bit weird." It's essential to remember that NFTs represent a digital ownership certificate for a unique asset, and their value is based on the market's perception of that asset's worth. As with any investment, it's crucial to do thorough research and consider the long-term implications before diving in.

    • NFTs and IP ownershipNFTs have led to a surge of interest in IP ownership in Hollywood due to their potential for monetization, with celebrities and content creators looking to expand their influence and profit from their digital assets, such as the Bored Ape Yacht Club NFT collection, which granted buyers IP rights and inspired pitches for movies and other projects.

      The nature of NFTs (Non-Fungible Tokens) is that anything can be an NFT, from a picture or an idea to a feeling or a story. This has led to a surge of interest in NFTs among celebrities and the entertainment industry, particularly in Hollywood. The motivation behind this trend is the desire to own intellectual property (IP) that can be monetized. With the rise of streaming services and increasing demand for content, owning IP has become more valuable than ever. This hunger for IP has even extended to celebrities, who are looking to expand their influence beyond just starring in movies. The most notable example of this is the Bored Ape Yacht Club (BAYC) NFT collection, which gave buyers not only digital ownership of the image but also the underlying IP rights. This has led to a flood of pitches from producers and writers looking to make movies or other projects based on these NFTs. However, it's important to note that not all NFT owners have the rights to make commercial projects based on their NFTs, as the actual IP ownership can vary. Nonetheless, the trend towards NFTs as a way to monetize IP is a significant development in the entertainment industry.

    • Celebrity IP control in NFTsDespite the initial belief that NFT sales could provide celebrities with greater control over their intellectual property, the reality is more complex, with significant barriers to entry and public perception issues.

      The initial motivation behind celebrities jumping into the NFT trend was rooted in the belief that they could have greater control over their intellectual property (IP) through NFT sales. However, as discussed, this idea was based on flawed assumptions. For some, the dream was to sell off individual characters or IPs from shows or movies, while others saw potential in selling their own unique digital creations, like Paris Hilton and her "Bored Ape" NFT. Yet, the reality was far more complex. Even with the IP rights, significant barriers to entry, such as securing funding and partnerships from major platforms, remained. Moreover, many fans were unhappy with the perceived conflict of interest when celebrities, represented by the same talent agencies, were promoting NFTs for investment. Ultimately, the NFT hype for celebrities was driven by a mix of high-flying IP ownership aspirations and more straightforward financial gains, but the execution and public perception proved to be a challenge.

    • Celebrity NFT endorsementsCelebrities view NFT endorsements as a business opportunity, similar to endorsing traditional brands, but the risks and benefits are unique to the digital art world

      Celebrities, like Paris Hilton, view NFT endorsements as just another business opportunity, no different from endorsing a clothing line or a beer. Paris Hilton has endorsed numerous brands throughout her career, and NFTs are just the latest addition. Some people argue that it's unfair for the rich to profit from NFTs while others are left out, but the benefits to celebrities' lives may be significant. The case of Seth Green and his stolen NFTs illustrates the risks involved in this new and complex world of digital art. Despite the challenges, NFTs continue to gain popularity and influence in the entertainment industry.

    • Social media sleuthing in blockchainInvestigating blockchain transactions anonymity can be done through social media sleuthing, identifying common handles across platforms and analyzing likes to uncover hidden identities

      The blockchain, despite its anonymity, can be investigated using traditional investigative techniques like social media sleuthing. Paul, an amateur investigator, was able to uncover the identity of "Darkwing 84" by following the breadcrumbs of likes on social media. He discovered that Darkwing used the same handle across different platforms, including an Instagram account filled with NFTs for sale. By analyzing the likes on these posts, Paul identified an account belonging to a friend of Darkwing, which led him to a photograph that matched Darkwing's unique artistic style. This case demonstrates that even in the digital world, it's possible to uncover hidden identities with diligent investigation.

    • NFTs and illicit activitiesNFTs can expose hidden information leading to identification of individuals involved in illicit activities, highlighting the importance of transparency and accountability in the NFT space

      The blockchain technology used in NFTs can uncover hidden information, leading to the identification of individuals involved in illicit activities, even in complex cases where the true culprit is not immediately apparent. This was demonstrated in the story of Darkwing 84, a Sydney-based cinematographer who unknowingly purchased a stolen NFT from Seth Green. Although Darkwing wasn't the thief, the trail of digital footprints led to his identification. This incident highlights the transformative potential of technology in revealing human behavior and sheds light on the ethical implications of NFTs and their role in the digital art market. Additionally, the story underscores the importance of transparency and accountability in the NFT space and the potential consequences of engaging in unethical activities. Ultimately, the incident served as a reminder of the power of technology to expose the truth and the importance of being vigilant in the digital world.

    • NFTs in ArtNFTs are being integrated into art in new ways, such as being used as integral components instead of just expensive add-ons, despite the declining NFT market and skepticism. The future of NFTs in art remains uncertain but the willingness of creators to experiment is a positive sign.

      The integration of NFTs into art is gaining more acceptance and exploration, even in unexpected places like television shows. The example given was of Seth Green's attempt to incorporate his NFT, a Board Ape, into a potential show, which showed a new way of approaching the intersection of NFTs and art. Despite initial skepticism, the notion of creating art that includes NFTs as integral components rather than just as expensive add-ons is gaining traction. However, the NFT market, particularly the floor price for Board Ape NFTs, has seen a significant decrease in value. Despite this, the floor price still hovers around $100,000. The future of NFTs in art remains to be seen, but the willingness of creators to experiment with their use is a promising sign. Additionally, the discussion touched upon the declining crypto markets and the fact that some celebrities who were previously vocal about crypto have become less active in the space. The price of Seth Green's Board Ape television show never materialized, and Dick Doyle, the pseudonymous NFT buyer, was identified and expressed regret for his actions. The cheapest Board Ape for sale is now going for around $3,000. The episode was edited by Shruthi Panamanani, with sound design and mixing by Steven Jackson and Phil Demahofsky, and fact-checking from Elizabeth Moss. The next episode of Crypto Island will be the last one, and after that, new episodes of Search Engine will be shared.

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