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    The Kids of Rutherford County - Ep. 3: Would You Like to Sue the Government?

    enNovember 16, 2023

    Podcast Summary

    • New law firm faces financial challenges despite potential impactful caseTwo attorneys, Wes and Mark, faced financial struggles in their new law firm, Dowton Clark, despite taking on a potentially impactful pro bono case from the ACLU.

      Starting a new law firm from scratch, especially after leaving the steady but low-paying world of juvenile court law, comes with significant financial risks and challenges. Wes and Mark, two attorneys who had recently succeeded in getting a teenager out of solitary confinement, decided to form their own firm, Dowton Clark. Their goal was to move on from juvenile court cases and focus on civil cases, such as personal injury and business disputes. However, their initial cases did not yield the financial success they had hoped for. They faced numerous losses and even a case where their client paid them with a painting instead of money. Despite these setbacks, they were offered a pro bono case by the ACLU involving the arrest of children from Hobgood Elementary for not intervening in a fight. Though it meant returning to the juvenile court and facing Judge Davenport again, Wes saw an opportunity to potentially sue the police for false arrest and malicious prosecution. This case, though unpaid, offered the potential for significant impact and a chance to establish their firm's reputation.

    • Judge's Mandate for Juvenile ArrestsA judge's mandate in Rutherford County, Tennessee, for the arrest of all juvenile suspects, regardless of offense, may lead to misuse of resources and potential for class action lawsuit.

      In Rutherford County, Tennessee, there exists a judicial requirement that mandates the arrest of all juvenile suspects for any and all infractions, effectively removing the police department's discretion. This policy, enforced by Judge Davenport, results in a high number of arrests and potential for misuse of resources. Wes, a public defender, was initially excited about the potential for a class action lawsuit against the government for this apparent violation of police discretion. However, his colleague Mark was skeptical and believed they should focus on a solitary confinement case where they had already made progress. Undeterred, Wes sought the advice of a respected lawyer, Kyle Mothershed, to explore potential legal action against the judicial requirement.

    • Judge's memos led to mass illegal arrests of childrenAmbiguous or overreaching policies can result in unintended consequences, including the violation of individual rights, particularly for children.

      In the pursuit of justice, clear and explicit instructions or policies can have significant consequences, especially when they involve the rights of individuals, particularly children. In this case, a series of memos written by a judge to law enforcement in Tennessee instructed officers to arrest children for even the most minor offenses, leading to mass illegal arrests. This policy was further enforced by the jail's intake policy, which allowed jail staff to call administrators for guidance on whether to detain or release a child. The combination of these policies resulted in a systemic issue of children being unnecessarily arrested and detained. The importance of understanding and adhering to the law, as well as the potential consequences of ambiguous or overreaching policies, is a crucial lesson from this story.

    • Vague 'true threat' analysis led to wrongful detentions of minors in Rutherford CountyA lack of clear definition for 'true threat' allowed jail staff to misuse and abuse the filter system, leading to numerous illegal arrests and detentions of minors for minor infractions or running away from home or school.

      The use of a "true threat" analysis in determining whether to detain minors in Rutherford County, Tennessee, led to numerous illegal arrests and detentions. The lack of a clear definition for a "true threat" left the decision up to the discretion of ranking jail staff, leading to potential misuse and abuse. This issue was particularly concerning given that many of the reasons listed in the filter system for detaining minors were in direct violation of Tennessee law. Based on Wes's personal experience and interviews with 25 other adults, it appears that a significant number of minors were wrongly arrested or detained over an eight-year period. For instance, minors were arrested for minor infractions like theft, truancy, or underage drinking, or for simply running away from home or school. The long-term impact on these individuals' lives is unknown, but it is clear that the application of this vague "true threat" analysis resulted in a disproportionate number of minors being unjustly detained.

    • Traumatic experiences for young children in juvenile detentionBeing arrested at a young age can cause distress, confusion, and long-term negative effects, including feelings of hopelessness and despair.

      Being arrested at a young age, even for minor offenses, can lead to traumatic experiences. Brandon, a 7-year-old boy, was taken to the juvenile detention center after being accused of damaging a house. He was kept there over the weekend, away from his family, and subjected to humiliating and distressing procedures. The experience left him feeling confused, scared, and vulnerable. Once admitted to the facility, children were stripped down, given cold or hot showers, and made to wear ill-fitting jumpsuits. They were kept awake during the day and forced to stand in corners if they tried to sleep. Solitary confinement, or lockdown, was used as punishment for misbehavior. The trauma of being arrested and detained at such a young age can have lasting impacts, including feelings of hopelessness, despair, and even suicidal thoughts.

    • Neglected and Humiliated: The Reality of Rutherford County's Juvenile Justice SystemThe juvenile justice system in Rutherford County failed to provide basic necessities and respect to detainees, leading to potential legal action.

      The juvenile justice system in Rutherford County, as depicted in the speaker's experiences and those of the children he encountered, was characterized by neglect, humiliation, and a lack of consideration for the mental and physical well-being of detainees. The speaker shared harrowing stories of being denied basic necessities like menstrual products and medication while in detention. The judge's harsh treatment and demeaning attitude towards the children further compounded their distress. These experiences, combined with the discovery of the arrest policy and filter system, led the speaker to consider a potential massive lawsuit against the government on behalf of thousands of affected children.

    • Controversy over Rutherford County Juvenile Court SystemAllegations of illegal arrests and detentions in Rutherford County Juvenile Court System could lead to a landmark case for civil rights violations, potentially bringing significant change for children involved, but also an opportunity for financial gain for plaintiffs.

      The Rutherford County Juvenile Court System, under Judge Donna Scott Davenport, has been a subject of controversy due to allegations of illegal arrests and detentions of minors. The plaintiffs in the case, who were initially skeptical, have now gathered substantial evidence and believe they have a strong case for civil rights violations. However, Judge Davenport, who has been a vocal critic of societal values and the influence of technology on children, has maintained her stance and continues to defend her actions. Despite declining juvenile crime statistics, she believes the situation is worsening and parents are not doing enough to prevent it. The case could potentially hold the county accountable for its juvenile justice system and bring about significant change for the children involved. However, it also represents an opportunity for the plaintiffs to make a substantial financial gain.

    • Judge Davenport's Crusade for AccountabilityJudge Davenport believed in holding kids accountable, using detention as a tool, but her methods were controversial and some argued she ignored laws, making up her own rules.

      Judge Donna Scott Davenport, of Rutherford County, saw herself as a guardian of common sense and morality, using her detention center as a tool to keep children from going down the wrong path. She believed in holding kids accountable for their actions and believed that detention was an effective way to do so. However, her methods were controversial, as some argued that she was ignoring state laws and making up her own rules for arresting and jailing children. The legality of her actions would eventually be challenged in court. Despite the controversy, Judge Davenport remained confident in her approach and continued to view the children in her care as her own, working to shape their lives and give them a future.

    • Judge Davenport's Policies Led to Unintended ConsequencesWell-intentioned policies can have unintended consequences. Clear communication and understanding are crucial to prevent such outcomes.

      The policies implemented by Judge Davenport in Rutherford County led to the unintended consequence of jailing children at disproportionately high rates. Despite her intentions, her memos and the jail's filter system were interpreted by law enforcement and jail staff as mandating the arrest of children for even minor offenses. During a hearing in federal court, Duke, the jail administrator, was unable to provide a satisfactory explanation for why the statutory mandate wasn't being followed. The surreal scene of Judge Davenport being questioned about her policies in a court of law highlighted the absurdity of the situation. The takeaway is that well-intentioned policies can have unintended consequences, and it's crucial to ensure clear communication and understanding to prevent such outcomes.

    • Chief administrator's disregard for law driven by desire for powerChallenging unjust policies requires persistence and standing up for what's right, even against powerful opposition.

      The chief administrator of a bureaucracy, Davenport, disregarded a clear statute and continued to enforce an illegal detention policy due to her desire for power. Despite numerous explanations of the statute, her motivations seemed to be driven by maintaining control rather than adhering to the law. The lawyers, Wes and Mark, were successful in their efforts to challenge the policy, leading to a ruling that ended the illegal detentions. The victory was a significant one for the children affected and a validation for Wes, who had long advocated against the unjust practices in Rutherford County. The case highlighted the importance of standing up for what is right, even when faced with opposition.

    • A team of producers and collaborators brought 'The Kids of Rutherford County' to lifeExtensive collaboration between Serial Productions, The New York Times, ProPublica, and Nashville Public Radio resulted in a high-quality podcast production involving multiple roles and team members

      Extensive team effort required to produce a podcast like "The Kids of Rutherford County." Dane Unkemett served as the producer, but the project also involved additional production from Michelle Navarro, Julie Snyder, Jen Guerra, Sarah Bluestaine, Ken Armstrong, Anita Batijo, Alex Kollwitz, Ende Chubbu, Ben Phelan, Naomi Sharp, Phoebe Way, The Blasting Company, Susan Wesseling, Dana Green, Al Amin Sumar, Simone Proges, Pablo Delcon, Janelle Pifer, Mac Miller, and Sam Dolnick. Additionally, there were special thanks given to Katie Mingle, Mike Kamatay, Aaron Reese, Bianca Gaever, Jordan McCarley, and Rob Robinson. The podcast was a collaborative effort between Serial Productions, The New York Times, ProPublica, and Nashville Public Radio. The team handled various roles such as editing, fact checking, sound design, music supervision, mixing, legal review, and art production. This collaborative effort ensured the production of a high-quality podcast.

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