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    The Rather Pathetic Economy of the Roman Empire

    enFebruary 03, 2024

    Podcast Summary

    • Ancient Rome's Economic Influence on Modern SystemsAncient Rome's dominance in Europe and lessons learned from its economy have shaped the global economy, teaching us about limitations of growth and potential consequences of repeating past mistakes.

      The economic influence of ancient Rome on modern systems is significant, despite its size and wealth not being as impressive as some other historical empires. Rome's dominance in Europe and the lessons learned from it have shaped the global economy as we know it today. The Roman economy can teach us about the limitations of limitless growth and the potential consequences of repeating past mistakes. Even though economists can't predict the future, studying ancient Rome's economic legacy can provide valuable insights into our modern world. It's important to remember that even the most powerful empires have their limitations and challenges. By learning from the past, we can make more informed decisions about our own economic future.

    • Comparing Ancient Rome's Economy to Modern Financial AdviceAncient Rome's economy was agrarian and poor, while the NerdWallet Smart Money Podcast provides practical financial advice for making informed decisions today.

      The NerdWallet Smart Money Podcast provides practical financial advice and answers to real-world money questions from a team of personal finance experts. The podcast offers insights on building wealth, investing wisely, shopping for financial products, and planning for major life events. Meanwhile, looking into the economic history of ancient Rome, it was mostly an agrarian state with a very small economy and low GDP per capita, making it a desperately poor economy compared to today's standards. The NerdWallet Smart Money Podcast, on the other hand, offers clear and practical knowledge to help individuals make the smartest financial decisions for their lives. By tuning in, listeners can gain confidence in managing their finances and making informed decisions.

    • Measuring ancient economies vs modern GDPAncient economies relied on indirect methods to estimate economic output, while modern economies measure GDP based on total demand, making it more representative and efficient.

      Measuring a country's economic output through every single final good or service produced would be incredibly difficult and inefficient. Instead, economists measure GDP based on total demand or aggregate demand, as it is easier to track and more representative of actual economic activity. In ancient times, such as the Roman Empire, economists had to rely on indirect methods to estimate economic output by looking at consumption and production data available from records. Despite some advancements, the average Roman lived a relatively poor life due to limited factors of production, primarily a lack of capital. This highlights the remarkable progress our modern world has made in increasing economic output and improving living standards.

    • Factors of Production: Capital, Land, and LaborCapital enables access to advanced technology, food from around the world, and essential services, leading to economic growth and improved standard of living

      Capital, land, and labor are essential factors of production in an economy. While each is crucial, they are interconnected and cannot function effectively without each other. A hammer is an example of capital, while a factory is an example of land, and workers represent labor. Rome, for instance, had an abundant workforce and land but lacked capital, leading to limited economic growth. Today, modern farmers use capital in the form of fertilizers, harvesting equipment, and weather mapping to produce food for themselves and thousands of others, freeing up time for innovation and other pursuits. Capital enables access to goods and services that were unimaginable to ancient civilizations, such as food from around the world, information at our fingertips, and advanced healthcare. In summary, capital plays a vital role in enabling economic growth and improving the standard of living.

    • Ancient civilizations vs. modern world: Maslow's hierarchy and quality of lifeAncient civilizations focused on basic needs, lacking technology and productivity for self-actualization and luxury goods, resulting in low life expectancies. Modern world's industrial revolution enabled advancements, capital accumulation, and longer lifespans.

      Despite the impressive achievements of ancient civilizations like Rome, they pale in comparison to the modern world in terms of wealth and quality of life. Economists use frameworks like Maslow's hierarchy of needs to understand human consumption and desires. While ancient civilizations met basic needs, they lacked the technological advancements and productivity to provide for self-actualization and luxury goods. This is evident in their low life expectancies, with the average Roman citizen living only 20-30 years, while emperors and historians fared slightly better. The lack of capital accumulation in ancient civilizations, such as Rome, is a mystery to economists. Despite its size and resources, Rome remained primarily agrarian for over a thousand years. The industrial revolution in Europe in the 17th century, which led to the modern world, may have been driven by factors such as incentives for innovation and technological advancements that were not present in ancient civilizations.

    • From abundance to scarcity: The shift in value of labor-saving technologiesEurope's manpower shortage led to the investment in labor-saving technologies, sparking the Industrial Revolution and a significant increase in economic output, transforming societies and creating unprecedented wealth.

      During the Roman Empire's time, manpower was abundant, making labor-saving technologies seem insignificant. However, Europe, which was experiencing a manpower shortage, saw the value in such technologies and invested in them, leading to the Industrial Revolution and a significant increase in economic output. This compounding effect of new technology transformed societies from agrarian to industrialized, resulting in unprecedented wealth. Despite the challenges we face today, this historical shift should not be overlooked. Using estimates from the peak of the Roman Empire around 100 to 200 AD, its economic output was relatively small, making it around the 100th economy in the world today, with a GDP of roughly 50 billion US dollars. With a population of around 50 million people, this gave the empire a low GDP per capita, placing it among the poorest countries today. The empire's stability and confidence were also average, with frequent political power grabs and internal conflicts, and its prosperity being dependent on the previous year's harvest.

    • The Roman Empire's Economy and Industry Ranked Low by Modern StandardsDespite impressive architectural achievements, the Roman Empire's economy and industry lagged behind more industrially advanced civilizations, with an average score of 2.6 out of 10.

      The Roman Empire, despite its grandeur and historical significance, received a low score in terms of economic productivity and industry. The average Roman citizen's economic value remained stagnant throughout the empire's existence, with most people engaged in farming and subsistence duties. The empire's impressive building industry during that time is the only factor that saved it from a lower score. By modern standards, the Roman Empire's economy and industry would rank quite low, with an average score of 2.6 out of 10. This may be a controversial assessment, but it's essential to acknowledge the limitations of the Roman economy in comparison to more industrially advanced civilizations. For more insights into economic challenges in the modern world, check out our recent video on Italy's economic struggles. If you're interested in understanding the complexities of the US-China relationship, tune in to my new podcast, Face Off, where I delve into the behind-the-scenes dynamics of this tumultuous relationship. Find Face Off wherever you get your podcasts.

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