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    The zkEVM is Here | Alex Gluchowski of zkSync

    enMarch 02, 2022

    Podcast Summary

    • Ethereum's scalability efforts advance with zksync rollupMATTER Labs' zksync, a ZK EVM compatible rollup, is being tested on a testnet, bringing Ethereum closer to affordable transactions. Opolis offers incentives for DAO employment transition.

      Ethereum's scalability efforts have taken a significant step forward with the development of a ZK EVM compatible rollup, zksync, by MATTER Labs. This technology, which was once thought to be years away, is now being tested on a testnet, bringing Ethereum closer to achieving Vitalik's vision of making transactions cost only 5 cents. Alex, the CEO of MATTER Labs, joins the podcast to discuss the current state of this technology, what's left in the roadmap, and when users can expect to use it. Additionally, the team's Ukrainian background and crypto's potential role in Ukraine are also discussed. In other news, Opolis, a DAO that helps people work for other DAOs, is offering a bonus of 1,000 work tokens and 1,000 Bankless DAO tokens to those who sign up before May 1st, making the transition into web 3 employment easier. Overall, 2021 is a proof year for Ethereum's scalability approach, and these developments are significant steps towards making Ethereum more accessible and affordable for users.

    • Exploring DeFi and NFTs with Decentralized SolutionsThe importance of decentralization, security, and performance in the DeFi and NFT space is emphasized, with sponsors like Slingshot, Brave Browser, and Arbitrum providing solutions for better trading experiences, privacy, and scalability. Matter Labs and their zkSync rollup project are highlighted for their uncompromising open source values.

      During this episode of Bankless, the hosts discussed various topics related to the decentralized finance (DeFi) and non-fungible token (NFT) space, highlighting the importance of decentralization, security, and performance. They introduced sponsors like Slingshot, Brave Browser, and Arbitrum, which aim to provide better trading experiences, privacy, and scalability in the Web 3.0 world. Alex Glikovsky, co-founder of Matter Labs, was also featured, discussing the team's uncompromising approach to open source values and their pioneering zkSync rollup project on the Ethereum network. Throughout the conversation, the hosts emphasized the need for security, especially in light of the ongoing conflict in Ukraine, where many team members have had to evacuate. Overall, the episode underscored the importance of decentralized solutions and the continuous innovation in the blockchain space.

    • Ethereum team surprises crypto community with early release of zk EVM roll up on testnetEthereum team discovered shortcuts to overcome inefficiencies of zk proofs, delivering a fully-fledged, expressive zk EVM roll up on testnet sooner than expected, crucial for maintaining composability in DeFi and ensuring scalability in Ethereum.

      The Ethereum team surprised the crypto community by releasing an EVM-compatible zk roll up on testnet, much earlier than expected. This development was considered a significant achievement, as many experts believed it would take years to overcome the inefficiencies of zero-knowledge proofs for general computation in creating a fully-fledged, expressive zk EVM roll up with composability. The Ethereum team, however, discovered shortcuts to compensate for the huge overhead and combined the flexible and rigid parts to deliver the technology more quickly. This breakthrough is crucial because composability is what makes DeFi powerful, and ensuring it remains in a zk EVM and on a zk roll up is a challenging task. Additionally, Alex, who was born in Ukraine, shared his personal experiences and values alignment with the crypto and decentralization space. The discussion also touched upon recent events and news from a technology perspective, including the release of the zk EVM on testnet and its implications for the future of scalability in Ethereum.

    • Separating Rigid and Flexible Components in zk EVMThe zk EVM architecture separates optimized rigid components from flexible ones, allowing for efficient optimization and flexibility in executing arbitrary programs.

      The zk EVM architecture separates rigid, optimized components from flexible ones, much like a computer's CPU and specialized microchips. This design allows for efficient optimization of the rigid components while maintaining the flexibility to execute arbitrary programs. The zk EVM's design structure, including the use of recursive Snarks and the eventual shift towards transparent designs, is expected to remain the same, but there will be room for developers to use different languages and compilers. The zkSync breakthrough, which involves a general approach to efficient zero-knowledge rollups, was independently discovered by multiple teams, including the zkSync team, and builds on the work of earlier innovators.

    • First Ethereum-compatible zk rollup, zk EVM, on Ethereum's testnetThe zkSync 2.0 testnet allows deploying and interacting with Solidity smart contracts using web 3 API, similar to other scaling solutions but based on ZKVM technology. Public testing aims to demonstrate compatibility with existing codebase with minimal modifications.

      The zkSync 2.0 public testnet release marks the arrival of the first Ethereum-compatible zk rollup, zk EVM, on Ethereum's testnet. This new technology, which allows deploying and interacting with Solidity smart contracts using web 3 API, is similar to other scaling solutions but is based on ZKVM technology. The testnet is now open to the public, and the goal is to show that developers can reuse their existing codebase without major modifications. The degree of modification required depends on what the program is using, with most generic code likely not needing any changes. However, certain cryptographic primitives, like pairings and mod mod operations, aren't supported yet, and ETH sending and receiving need to be wrapped as ERC 20 tokens. Compared to StarkWare, the degree of modification required is less, as most Ethereum primitives are supported, and the unsupported features are clearly documented. The mainnet release is planned for when testing shows maturity and the full specification is implemented.

    • Experience Ethereum with Lower Gas Fees using zkSyncZkSync, a Layer 2 scaling solution, offers Ethereum Mainnet's user experience but with significantly lower gas fees through zk-rollups technology and wallet reuse.

      ZkSync is a Layer 2 scaling solution that aims to provide the same user experience as Ethereum Mainnet but with significantly lower gas fees. It achieves this by using zk-rollups technology and allowing users to reuse their Ethereum wallets. This means that popular DeFi applications, such as Aave, Compound, Maker, and Uniswap, could potentially be used with the same interface on zkSync as they are on Ethereum Mainnet, but with the added benefit of much lower gas fees. Argent, a wallet wrapper, is an example of a project already integrating with zkSync and providing a better user experience due to the advantages of account abstraction and cheaper transaction costs. However, it's important to note that while the user interface remains the same, some functionalities may improve on zkSync compared to Ethereum Mainnet.

    • Implementation of zk EVM and optimistic rollups in Ethereum ecosystemUsers can pay gas fees in any token, unlocking new possibilities for dApps and DeFi. The transition to zkSync is a low-touch process, but some tooling adjustments are necessary. Ultimately, the goal is to improve user experience and preserve decentralization in the zk EVM ecosystem.

      The implementation of the zk EVM and optimistic rollups in the Ethereum ecosystem will enable users to pay gas fees in any token they transact with, unlocking new possibilities for dApps and the DeFi space. This is expected to usher in a new era of user experience for DeFi, which has been missing since its inception. The transition to zkSync, an optimistic rollup platform, is seen as a low-touch process, allowing developers to easily deploy their existing code. However, some developer tooling adjustments are necessary, particularly for debugging and event handling, which are being addressed. The majority of tools will continue to function as they do on the Ethereum mainnet. The ultimate goal of implementing zk rollups is to improve the overall user experience and preserve decentralization, with trust assumptions being a crucial aspect of the zk EVM ecosystem. This is an important conversation as the zk EVM ecosystem continues to evolve and developers strive to unlock their full potential for building on it.

    • Making the world 'bankless' with ZkSyncZkSync, a rollup solution, aims to extend the Internet of value and enable millions/billions to control their assets in a decentralized way, relying on Ethereum mainnet's security and zkMath's cryptography, with plans to remove centralization in the future.

      ZkSync, a rollup solution, was built with the mission to make the world go "bankless" by allowing millions and potentially billions of people to have full control over their financial assets in a decentralized manner. This requires limitless extension of the Internet of value, which is only achievable through rollups due to the limitations of a single consensus or data availability layer. Trust is a crucial element, and zkSync relies on the security of the Ethereum mainnet as the settlement and data availability layer, and trust in zkMath's cryptography. The current implementation of zkSyncVM on testnet includes a centralized sequencer for easier and faster development, but plans are to remove this centralization vector in the future. The ultimate goal is to create a fully decentralized and trustless financial system.

    • ZkSync's Asset Security Feature: Escape Hatch MechanismZkSync prioritizes asset security with an escape hatch mechanism, allowing users to prove failed transactions and withdraw assets. Costs are estimated to be similar to Ethereum Mainnet v1, but data availability costs will increase.

      ZkSync, a Layer 2 scaling solution for Ethereum, prioritizes asset security by allowing users to enforce transactions and withdraw assets if they don't trust the network. This is achieved through an escape hatch mechanism that proves failed transactions, a feature not currently available in StarkNet. The costs for this feature are estimated to be similar to Ethereum Mainnet's version 1. However, data availability costs, which are dominated by Ethereum's bandwidth space, will increase as more roll-ups use it. zkSync also plans to introduce an evolution called zk Porter to address these costs. The question about prover cost and setup is significant as it sets limits on minimum transaction costs and helps users understand the infrastructure requirements.

    • Ethereum's Scalability Strategy: Three LayersEthereum's strategy includes consensus, data availability, and execution layers. Users can save costs by securing data off-chain with roll-ups like zkSync 2.0, leading to cheaper transactions and DeFi innovation.

      Ethereum's scalability strategy involves a modular design with three layers: consensus, data availability, and execution. Users can choose between securing their data availability on Ethereum or using a less expensive alternative like zkSync and zk Porter. zkSync is an execution layer that can reduce transaction costs, and its latest version, zkSync 2.0, is now live on the public testnet and is fully EVM compatible, allowing for the deployment of any contract. This new version is like upgrading from a Nokia 3110 to a more advanced smartphone. The competition among roll-ups and execution layers is beneficial for the ecosystem, leading to innovation and cheaper transactions, which is good news for DeFi.

    • Gemini's zkSync transition and Uniswap grants programGemini's zkSync testnet to mainnet transition and Uniswap's grants program for ecosystem contributions

      For the best prices and most liquidity when trading crypto assets, consider using Matcha.xyz/bankless and connecting your wallet to Gemini. Gemini offers access to over 50 cryptos, including popular DeFi and Metaverse tokens, and provides yield on various cryptos through Gemini Earn. The transition from Gemini's testnet to mainnet for zkSync is expected to happen in the coming months, with the testnet remaining separate and contracts needing to be redeployed on the mainnet. Uniswap, a decentralized exchange on Ethereum, offers autonomous code for trading tokens at market prices, and the Uniswap grants program is accepting applications for ideas to contribute to the ecosystem.

    • ZK Rollup system's consensus layer requires a token for operationThe ZK Rollup system's consensus layer uses a token for securing data, introducing consensus, penalizing misbehavior, validating transactions, and receiving fees as a sequencer. Plans are in place to decentralize its supply to ensure maximum security and individual participation.

      The ZK Porter and ZK Sync consensus layer in the ZK Rollup system require a token for operation. This token is essential for securing data, introducing a layer of consensus, and penalizing those who do not secure the ZK Porter appropriately. It also serves to validate transactions and receive fees as a sequencer. Although the token starts off centralized, plans are in place to decentralize its supply to ensure maximum security and individual participation. The token is necessary for both ZK Porter and ZK Sync, and its distribution must reflect the high level of expected decentralization. The opportunity for developers and users to contribute to this ecosystem and get rewarded is significant.

    • Empowering Individuals and Reducing Centralization with ZKSyncZKSync, led by MATTER Labs, aims to provide liquidity and decentralization through its technology, enabling a limitless 'Internet of value'. The ZKDAO offers additional funds for developers, and key figure Alex shares a personal connection to the importance of decentralization in promoting peace and balance.

      The ZKSync project, led by MATTER Labs, is focused on providing liquidity and decentralization through its technology. This is important because it aims to enable a limitless "Internet of value," promoting freedom and self-sovereignty. The ZKDAO, a separate entity cooperating with BigDAO, is an additional source of funds for developers building on layer 2, offering another way for the community to get involved. Born in Ukraine, Alex, a key figure in the project, shares a personal connection to the country's history and the importance of decentralization. Having witnessed the consequences of a centralized economy and political system, he believes that giving people economic power can prevent large-scale conflicts and promote a more balanced society. The crypto industry, with its decentralized nature, offers a potential solution to the ongoing conflict in Ukraine by empowering individuals and reducing reliance on centralized systems.

    • Crypto as a tool for financial control and humanitarian aidCrypto enables individuals to regain control of their finances and provides aid during humanitarian crises in regions with unreliable traditional financial systems.

      Crypto, specifically Bitcoin and Ethereum, has emerged as a powerful tool for individuals to regain control of their finances and aid in humanitarian crises, particularly in regions where traditional financial systems fail or are unreliable. Stories from Ukraine and Russia illustrate this, with examples of successful fundraising efforts and the ability to maintain wealth during times of instability. Crypto transactions can directly translate into help on the ground, with organizations selling digital assets for local currency or purchasing necessary goods and supplies. The crypto community in these regions is growing and proving to be a robust alternative to traditional financial systems, especially during times of crisis.

    • Historical tech strengths in crypto from Russia and Ukraine, but it's a global movementUkrainian developers contribute to crypto, focusing on innovation, collaboration, and knowledge sharing despite fewer business projects originating from these countries.

      Despite the historical technological strengths in mathematics and programming coming from Russia and Ukraine due to their military defense needs during the Soviet Union era, the crypto industry is a global movement with contributors from all over the world, including a significant number of Ukrainian developers. The focus is on building innovative projects, and while there are fewer crypto-specific business projects originating from these countries, the global nature of the crypto community allows for collaboration and knowledge sharing regardless of geographical boundaries. It's essential to remember that involvement in crypto, including DeFi and rollups, comes with risks, but the potential rewards can be significant. The crypto space is a frontier for those willing to take on the risks, and it's an exciting journey towards decentralization and self-sovereignty for people everywhere.

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    enJune 25, 2024

    Why We Should Fight for Freedom of Speech | Greg Lukianoff

    Why We Should Fight for Freedom of Speech | Greg Lukianoff

    Why should we fight for Freedom of Speech?

    That’s the question that Free Speech Lawyer and Writer Greg Lukianoff helps us answer today.

    Using first principles, Greg goes deep into the importance of Freedom of Speech, “Free Speech Culture”, what happens to Free Speech when new technologies like the printing press and the internet are introduced, and how all this intersects with blockchains and crypto.

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    6:19 Defining Free Speech
    15:59 Free Speech Origins
    19:43 The Printing Press
    37:11 The Constitution
    39:50 Free Speech Culture
    47:48 What Protects Free Speech
    55:57 Generational Differences
    1:09:17 Censorship Societies
    1:16:29 The Internet
    1:21:04 AI & Free Speech
    1:23:04 Web2 Censorship
    1:27:17 Freedom to Transact
    1:36:38 Privacy
    1:38:30 How to Get Involved
    1:40:49 Closing & Disclaimers

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    Greg Lukianoff
    https://x.com/glukianoff 

    The Eternally Radical Idea Newsletter
    https://greglukianoff.substack.com/  

    FIRE
    https://www.thefire.org/  

    Support FIRE Today!
    https://www.thefire.org/donate  

    The Canceling of the American Mind
    https://www.amazon.com/Canceling-American-Mind-Undermines-Threatens-ebook/dp/B0BTZT9PLM/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&sr=8-1  

    Free Speech: A History from Socrates to Social Media 
    https://www.amazon.com/Free-Speech-History-Socrates-Social/dp/1541600495/ref=sr_1_1?sr=8-1  

    Revolution in the Age of Social Media
    https://www.amazon.com/Revolution-Age-Social-Media-Insurrection-ebook/dp/B00GVZJWAM  

    Free Speech, The People's Darling Privilege
    https://www.amazon.com/Free-Speech-Peoples-Darling-Privilege/dp/0822325292  

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    enJune 24, 2024

    ROLLUP: ETH Beats SEC! | Trump Coin? | LayerZero Token | ETH ETF Trading Soon

    ROLLUP: ETH Beats SEC! | Trump Coin? | LayerZero Token | ETH ETF Trading Soon

    Bankless Friday Weekly Rollup 
    3rd Week of June 2024


    The SEC drops all charges against Ethereum 2.0—could it now be recognized as a commodity? Plus, hints surface about the launch date of the ETH ETF!


    Airdrop season is still alive and well! LayerZero and zkSync tokens launched recently. Find out if you’re eligible and the market’s reaction.


    And, did Baron Trump really launch a DJT memecoin on Solana? We unpack the latest buzz and drama. Tune in for all the details and so much more!


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    0:00 Intro


    2:55 MARKET
    https://x.com/WhalePanda/status/1802958996392870368 
    https://www.theblock.co/data/crypto-markets/bitcoin-etf/spot-bitcoin-etf-flows 
    https://x.com/CryptoDonAlt/status/1802743515941609572 
    https://www.tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=AMEX%3ASPY 
    https://x.com/saylor/status/1803763490928119950 


    9:35 ETH Price & ETH ETF Going Live 
    https://x.com/EricBalchunas/status/1801725292404261308 


    13:03 Total Crypto Market Cap


    13:46 L2Beat
    https://dune.com/hildobby/blobs 
    https://dune.com/sealaunch/dex-metrics-on-base?Select+Date+Granularity_ed0f38=week&Select+Timeframe_ed47bb=365 
    https://imgur.com/YuXZfAv 
    https://x.com/WazzCrypto/status/1803858912166449480 
    https://twitter.com/wbnns/status/1803217959479025857 
     
    18:40 Combo ETH + BTC ETF
    https://x.com/NateGeraci/status/1803080047303036971 
    https://x.com/Matt_Hougan/status/1803767324605886515 
    https://x.com/matthew_sigel/status/1801342560977190937 
    https://youtu.be/T2Ur8Dhc3uQ?si=Obqn5eY89sEUEdwi 
    https://youtu.be/KUMGYEKIiGw?si=fS4pae1N_rr1f0C0  


    21:35 AIRDROP Season in full swing
    Bankless Claimables and AIrdrop Hunter
    https://www.bankless.com/claimables/reveal 
    https://x.com/LayerZero_Fndn/status/1803744985029788042 
    https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/layerzero 
    https://x.com/LayerZero_Fndn/status/1803742303204323494 
    https://layerzero.foundation/claim 
    https://www.theblock.co/post/300389/zksync-live-mcap-airdrop 
    https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/zksync 
    https://x.com/TheZKNation/status/1802626483770265991 
    https://x.com/TheZKNation/status/1801378349442269345 
    https://docs.zknation.io/zk-token/zk-token-faq 
    https://x.com/nansen_ai/status/1803003153820082270  
    https://x.com/cobie/status/1803071393484939602 


    31:58 MOTHER + DADDY Update 
    https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/mother-iggy 
    https://x.com/IGGYAZALEA 
    https://x.com/jimcramer/status/1800893795346637193 
    https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/daddy-tate 


    37:21 What’s going on with $DJT? 
    https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/trumpcoin-2 
    https://x.com/PirateWires/status/1802825492405669930 
    https://www.newsweek.com/crypto-djt-barron-trump-martin-shkreli-1915147 
    https://x.com/ArkhamIntel/status/1803161788164288875 
    https://x.com/ArkhamIntel/status/1803471430727901455 
    https://x.com/zachxbt/status/1803240784436797871 
    https://x.com/zachxbt/status/1803371615524364503 
    https://x.com/jmgramke/status/1803792368388264399 
    https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1803759609808564306 
    https://x.com/MartinShkreli/status/1803821631279612367 


    50:38 U.S. SEC closes investigation in Ethereum!
    https://x.com/Consensys/status/1803230653120659641 
    https://x.com/laurabrooksie1/status/1803237492130234633 
    https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1803412140289560849 
    https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1803783619997052977 


    54:30 BitWise launches a new Ethereum ad for their incoming ETH ETF 
    https://x.com/BitwiseInvest/status/1803789737620078875 
    https://zora.co/collect/base:0x9ada0269656e7855c95f54a34d4ef94f78892038/1 


    1:00:12 Kraken exploit for 3m and some drama - vs Certik 
    https://x.com/c7five/status/1803403565865771370 
    https://x.com/P3b7_/status/1803479749005549647 
    https://x.com/tayvano_/status/1803478049280893040 
    https://x.com/sethforprivacy/status/1803520795735683528 


    1:06:34 Donald Trump wants all remaining Bitcoin to be 'Made in USA'
    https://x.com/intangiblecoins/status/1801771689249787936 


    1:08:06 Optimism & Tether Releases
    https://x.com/Optimism/status/1800974991313469445 
    https://chain.box 
    https://x.com/Alloy_tether/status/1802676443781923289 


    1:10:45 Bankless ETHCC Meetup
    https://lu.ma/k0amrrnz 


    1:12:10 Who won the ETH ETF Pitch competition? 
    https://www.jokerace.io/contest/base/0x0f2211f6727e85dbfae20e7dbfe57875a1f2b706 


    1:13:45 Another voting for Bankless Nation! 
    https://www.jokerace.io/contest/base/0x0bac0ec9b6aeafa6c2212f67a67950940eda63a7 


    1:15:38 MEME of the Week 
    https://x.com/PleasrDAO/status/1803572250278514999 


    1:16:17 Closing & Disclaimers


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    enJune 21, 2024

    Diaries of an ETH Maxi on Wall Street | Sam Jernigan

    Diaries of an ETH Maxi on Wall Street | Sam Jernigan

    Sam Jernigan, the “Unofficial ETH Maxi of Wall Street”, has been evangelizing Ethereum to institutional funds and billionaires from inside the house for the past five years.

    Having the perfect blend of deep Ethereum knowledge and the full Wall Street experience, Sam guides us through how he became an ETH Maxi, why the lack of understanding of ETH in TradFi is the most bullish case for the asset and what the future holds for ETH institutional adoption.

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    0:00 Intro
    7:47 Defining TradFi
    20:05 Ethereum’s P/E Ratio
    23:49 Sam’s Background
    40:44 Becoming an ETH Maxi
    52:57 The State of ETH in TradFi
    57:38 ETH Bull Case
    1:06:11 The Flippening
    1:12:11 ETH ETF
    1:19:26 Security vs Commodity Debate
    1:24:00 TradFi: Friend or Foe?
    1:34:39 Regulation
    1:46:07 Closing & Disclaimers

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    Sam Jernigan on X
    https://x.com/sjerniganiv  

    Sam Jernigan on LikedIn
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    enJune 19, 2024

    ETH to $22k by 2030? | VanEck's Matthew Sigel

    ETH to $22k by 2030? | VanEck's Matthew Sigel

    In this episode, David Hoffman is joined by Matthew Sigel, Head of Digital Assets Research at VanEck, to unpack VanEck's groundbreaking ETH 2030 report. They discuss the $154,000 bull case, $22,000 base case, and $340 bear case for Ethereum, and the factors behind these predictions. 

    Matthew dives deep into the role of ETH ETFs and shares insights into ETH's evolving narrative in institutional portfolios. He also provides interesting analogies and comparisons between ETH and Web 2.0, explaining how VanEck will help traditional investors understand and invest in ETH using these narratives and real market data. 

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    0:00 Intro
    7:16 VanEck Vibe Check ?
    8:11 VanEck ETH 2030 Price Prediction Report 
    12:31 Last Year’s Report vs. Present Report 
    15:10 Ethereum Narrative For Retail
    19:14 Pitching ETH To Customers
    25:15 Parameters For Bear, Base & Bull?
    28:49 What If ETH Reaches $154,000 
    32:31 ETH’s Most Bearish & Bullish Scenarios 
    33:40 Solana’s MEV vs. ETH’s MEV
    41:28  BTC & ETH Allocation In Portfolio 
    45:59 Can Data Help Matthew Convince Customers?
    49:30 $15B In ETF Assets
    50:30 Closing & Disclosures 

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    Matthew Sigel
    https://x.com/matthew_sigel 

    VanEck
    https://www.vaneck.com/us/en/ 
    https://www.vaneck.com/us/en/blogs/digital-assets/matthew-sigel-eth-2030-price-target/ 

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    enJune 18, 2024

    CZ, Bull Market Predictions & The Future of Binance | New CEO Richard Teng

    CZ, Bull Market Predictions & The Future of Binance | New CEO Richard Teng

    Now that CZ is gone, who’s going to fill his shoes?

    His name is Richard Teng, the new Binance CEO. He’s joining the podcast today to not only share the story of how he got here, but also to define his vision for the future of Binance.

    We ask him:
    Who is Richard Teng?
    What was it like to work with CZ?
    Why Crypto?
    What is going on in Nigeria?
    Bull Market Predictions?

    If you want to know who’s taking charge in the next era of Binance, this episode is for you. 

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    0:00 Intro
    7:16 Who’s Richard Teng
    15:54 The Last 2 Years
    24:30 Filling CZ Shoes
    34:58 The Future of Binance
    48:33 What is Going on in Nigeria?
    54:31 Why Crypto?
    1:03:33 BNB Chain
    1:05:48 Richard Teng’s Routine
    1:08:25 Bull Market Predictions
    1:14:21 Advice for Investors
    1:16:17 User Fund Security
    1:19:31 Closing & Disclaimers

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    Richard Teng
    https://x.com/_RichardTeng  

    Tigran Gambaryan Article
    https://www.binance.com/en/blog/leadership/from-richard-teng-binance-ceo-tigran-gambaryan-is-innocent-and-must-be-released-3634612934164622056  

    Binance Proof of Reserves
    https://www.binance.com/en/proof-of-reserves  

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    enJune 17, 2024

    ROLLUP: ZkSync Airdrop | Optimism Fault Proofs | Pectra Ethereum Upgrade

    ROLLUP: ZkSync Airdrop | Optimism Fault Proofs | Pectra Ethereum Upgrade

    Bankless Friday Weekly Rollup 
    2nd Week of June 2024

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    0:00 Intro

    3:31 Markets

    8:20 Gary G Says ETH ETF Approval “Sometime in Summer”
    https://x.com/tier10k/status/1801261940615848004 

    9:19 L2 Update

    11:04  The Fed expects to cut rates just once this year
    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/12/fed-meeting-today-on-interest-rate.html 

    15:41 Will BTC ETF follow the gold ETF success path?  
    https://x.com/hongkim__/status/1799442365892985257 

    20:48 ZKSync introduced ZK token 
    https://x.com/TheZKNation/status/1800424206129357194 
    https://app.aevo.xyz/perpetual/zk 
    https://x.com/eekeyguy_eth/status/1800461976969035910 
    https://blog.zknation.io/zk-token/ 
    https://zknation.ghost.io/content/images/2024/06/points.png 
    https://x.com/LibraryDefi/status/1800589632909832509 
    https://x.com/Gautamguptagg/status/1800539906923733397 
    https://x.com/Gautamguptagg/status/1800539906923733397 
    https://x.com/TheZKNation/status/1801020410563060031 
    https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1801024526001815616 
    https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1800758353511207103 

    36:46 Speaking of Airdrops: Taiko launched their TAIKO token 
    https://x.com/taikoxyz/status/1798336750668136851 
    Find out whether you are eligible via Claimables! 
    https://bankless.cc/3Jte55n  

    38:33 Optimism’s fault proofs are live! 
    https://x.com/l2beat/status/1800530188171674070 
    https://x.com/VitalikButerin/status/1800547329931620625 

    49:23 Pectra is about to became the biggest upgrade of Ethereum history: 
    https://x.com/sassal0x/status/1798869850200412383 

    55:34 Symbiotic introduced their restaking platform 
    https://x.com/symbioticfi/status/1800530004776022493 

    59:29 Eigen Labs acquired Rio Network 
    https://x.com/eigen_labs/status/1800888626642899321 

    1:01:41 Crypto:The Game was acquired by Uniswap! 
    https://x.com/cryptothegame_/status/1800199946739822594 

    1:06:28 PleasrDAO releases the WuTang Album
    https://pitchfork.com/news/wu-tang-clan-once-upon-a-time-in-shaolin-turned-into-nft/ 
    https://www.thealbum.com/ 

    1:09:12 Terraform Labs agreed to pay SEC $4.5B! 
    https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2024/06/12/terraform-labs-do-kwon-agree-to-pay-sec-a-combined-45b-in-civil-fraud-case/ 
    https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1800955721955283053     

    1:11:44 Alchemy introduced platform for building rollups 
    https://x.com/alchemyplatform/status/1798747911226040679 

    1:13:03 New Paradigm Fund
    https://x.com/matthuang/status/1801283717664526835 

    1:14:41 The Daily Gwei 
    https://www.youtube.com/@TheDailyGwei/videos  
    https://x.com/thedailygwei  
    https://x.com/sassal0x 
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/into-the-ether/id1443920565  

    1:15:49 Closing & Disclaimers

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    enJune 14, 2024

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    BREAKDOWN: Goldman’s Going on a Crypto Company Buying Spree, but Is That Good for Crypto?

    BREAKDOWN: Goldman’s Going on a Crypto Company Buying Spree, but Is That Good for Crypto?

    Goldman Sachs plans to spend tens of millions of dollars buying crypto firms at reset prices.

    This episode is sponsored by Nexo.io, Circle and Kraken.

    In a conversation with Reuters, Goldman Sachs’ head of digital assets suggested the bank would be spending tens of millions of dollars to invest in, or buy outright, crypto firms whose prices had come down significantly in the wake of the FTX collapse. In today’s episode, NLW looks at the latest news on that collapse and whether TradFi companies like Goldman Sachs becoming the leader of the space is an unreservedly good thing. 

    The debate referenced in today’s episode: Will Wall Street Ruin Bitcoin? Featuring Ben Hunt and Alex Gladstein

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    BREAKDOWN: Why Citi Thinks Bitcoin Is at a Tipping Point

    BREAKDOWN: Why Citi Thinks Bitcoin Is at a Tipping Point

    A 108-page report from the bank argues that in the future, bitcoin could become the preferred currency for international trade. 

    This episode is sponsored by Nexo.io and Casper.

    Today on the Brief:

    • Michael Saylor bought the dip
    • China bans bitcoin mining in Inner Mongolia
    • WallStreetBets moving off Reddit? 


    Our main discussion: Citi’s analysis of bitcoin. 

    February saw a non-stop barrage of bullish bitcoin news with regard to institutional uptake. March is off to a similar start with a massive research report arguing that:

    • Bitcoin’s evolution over the last seven years has been spectacular 
    • CBDCs are likely to become more important
    • If CBDCs do become more important, it could spur more corporations to use bitcoin as a global settlement currency 


    NLW argues that the report itself may be the beginning of a new, important part of the institutional bitcoin narrative. 

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    BREAKDOWN: The World's Biggest ‘Free Speech’ Experiment Has Begun

    BREAKDOWN: The World's Biggest ‘Free Speech’ Experiment Has Begun

    Can Elon Musk fix Twitter’s original sin? 

    This episode is sponsored by Nexo.io, Arculus and FTX US. 

    Elon Musk is officially buying Twitter. In today’s show, NLW argues that the debate and discussion around the move is largely focused on content moderation policies, when the more fundamental issue is the relationship of the advertising business model to what the algorithm prioritizes. Does Musk have the long-term view and the willingness to endure financial challenges to actually go after the root causes of Twitter’s problems? 

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    MARKETS DAILY: Featured Story | Consensus Survey – TradFi Investors Remain Bullish on Crypto’s Long-Term Prospects

    MARKETS DAILY: Featured Story | Consensus Survey – TradFi Investors Remain Bullish on Crypto’s Long-Term Prospects

    CoinDesk hosted a Survey at last month’s Consensus 2023 and despite the market turmoil over the past few months, investment managers remain steadfast in putting capital into digital assets. 


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    Is an opinion piece by Angelo Calvello, Ph.D., co-founder of Rosetta Analytics, an investment manager that uses deep reinforcement learning to build and manage investment strategies for institutions. This featured story is titled: Consensus Survey–TradFi Investors Remain Bullish on Crypto’s Long-Term Prospects.

    On today's show, we discuss a CoinDesk conducted survey from Consensus 2023, that finds that despite the market turmoil of the last six months, investment managers say they largely plan to keep putting capital into digital assets. With “60% of institutional investors and 64% of managers” believing the catalyst for investing or increasing their investment would be “clarifying the U.S. regulatory framework.”

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