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    There’s Only One Michael Mosley

    enJune 14, 2024

    Podcast Summary

    • Michael Mosley's top tipsMichael Mosley, in his podcast with Paul Bloom, shared his top five tips for living a good life: seeking pleasure, avoiding pain, being good people, making the world better, and finding meaning in life.

      Michael Mosley, a beloved and influential broadcaster, made a significant impact on radio and television by bringing a relatable, humorous approach to health and wellness topics. His style, which disguised his importance as a broadcaster, inspired many others in the industry. Off-camera, Michael was known for his humility, kindness, and generosity, which set the tone for a collaborative work environment. His legacy continues to influence us through the numerous health tips and tricks he shared, and his passing is deeply felt by many in the broadcasting community. In this podcast, Michael discusses his top five tips for living a good life with psychologist Professor Paul Bloom. Their conversation highlights the importance of seeking pleasure and avoiding pain, but also emphasizes the value of being good people, making the world better, and finding meaning in life. The interview is a testament to Michael's curiosity, fascination with research, and ability to make complex ideas accessible to audiences.

    • Contrast, losing yourselfEngaging in contrasting experiences and activities that allow us to lose ourselves can enhance our enjoyment and provide moments of true focus and fulfillment.

      Leading a good life involves seeking out contrast and finding ways to lose yourself. Neuroscientific research shows that our brains respond to things based on comparison, and experiencing contrast can heighten our enjoyment of pleasurable experiences. Additionally, engaging in activities that allow us to lose ourselves, such as intense exercise or creative pursuits, can help us escape the constant noise and distractions of our minds and find moments of true focus and fulfillment. Remember, it's important that these experiences are chosen and not imposed upon us, as unchosen suffering does not offer the same benefits.

    • Meaningful Activities vs HappinessFocusing on meaningful activities, such as raising children, can lead to a sense of fulfillment and satisfaction, while constant digital distractions can hinder the ability to achieve flow states and clearer mind.

      Pursuing happiness directly may not lead to increased happiness, but focusing on meaningful activities, such as raising children, can bring a sense of fulfillment and satisfaction. The constant digital distractions in today's world make it harder to achieve flow states, which can lead to a clearer mind and increased focus. The speaker, a psychologist with over 30 years of experience, shares that he initially thought happiness came from activities like drinking and watching TV, but realized that true happiness often comes from engaging in meaningful and satisfying activities. He encourages listeners to work on orchestrating their lives to prioritize these activities and avoid distractions, such as bringing phones to bed. Instead of pursuing happiness, the speaker suggests focusing on meaning, morality, and spirituality, and the best example of this is often found in raising children, despite the challenges it may bring.

    • Embracing ChallengesEmbracing challenges and suffering, whether voluntary or involuntary, can lead to personal growth and a more fulfilling life. Acknowledging and respecting the suffering of others can also bring benefits.

      Embracing challenges and suffering, both voluntary and involuntary, can contribute to a meaningful and fulfilling life. This can include pursuing activities that may not be easy or immediately rewarding, but bring personal satisfaction through the effort put into them. The speaker shares his own experiences of making unconventional choices and enduring hardships, ultimately leading him to a more rewarding path. He also highlights the importance of acknowledging and respecting the suffering of others, and the potential benefits of deliberate suffering for personal growth.

    • IKEA effect and effortUnderstanding the IKEA effect, where things are valued more when they require more effort, can lead to greater satisfaction and fulfillment in life, but it's essential to balance the struggle and entertainment to avoid unnecessary frustration.

      The relationship between effort and value is not unique to humans. Both humans and animals value things more when they require more effort. This concept, known as the IKEA effect, has been observed in rats and children. By understanding this universal principle, we can strive to incorporate challenging pursuits into our lives to enhance our overall satisfaction and fulfillment. It's essential to be mindful of how we introduce obstacles, as we are intelligent creatures, and unnecessary effort can become a source of frustration rather than pleasure. Ultimately, we must recognize that we have various motivations, and it's up to each of us to balance the struggle and entertainment in our lives to lead a meaningful existence.

    • Personal Control and Self-AwarenessThough external circumstances are beyond our control, we can focus on what we can control, such as thoughts, choices, and self-awareness. Self-awareness gained through introspection and observation can lead to personal growth and understanding of ourselves, but others may know us better than we know ourselves and personality tests can provide valuable insights.

      While we may not have control over our external circumstances, we do have control over our thoughts, choices, and self-awareness. Even when faced with limited options, we can focus on what we can control, such as our reactions and interactions. Self-awareness, gained through introspection and observation, can lead to surprising discoveries about ourselves. However, it's important to remember that others may know us better than we know ourselves, and personality tests can provide valuable insights. The Big Five personality test, for instance, assesses five traits: openness to experience, conscientiousness, extroversion, agreeableness, and neuroticism. The people closest to us can often provide more accurate assessments of our traits than we can ourselves, due to their greater familiarity and lack of self-serving biases. Ultimately, taking the time to understand ourselves and the feedback of those around us can lead to personal growth and a deeper understanding of who we truly are.

    • Embracing contrast and relationshipsEmbracing contrast brings pleasure and helps us appreciate good things, while strong relationships significantly impact our happiness and overall well-being. Loneliness can negatively affect health and well-being, particularly for men.

      To live a rich and fulfilling life, it's essential to focus on various aspects, including contrast, self-discovery, relationships, and embracing suffering. According to the discussion, contrast can bring pleasure and help us appreciate the good things in life. Self-discovery involves getting lost in experiences, finding flow, and seeking satisfaction rather than constant happiness. However, the most crucial aspect is relationships. The Harvard longitudinal study revealed that strong relationships significantly impact our happiness and overall well-being. Loneliness, on the other hand, can have devastating effects on our health and well-being. Men particularly benefit from long-term relationships, as they provide meaning, interest, and spiritual value. In summary, Paul's insights emphasize the importance of embracing various experiences, understanding ourselves, and nurturing strong relationships to lead a rich and fulfilling life.

    Recent Episodes from Just One Thing - with Michael Mosley

    There’s Only One Michael Mosley

    There’s Only One Michael Mosley

    Michael's last interview, How to Live a Good Life, is with psychologist Paul Bloom and was recorded in the BBC tent at the Hay Festival on 25 May, 2024.

    Paul is Professor Emeritus of Psychology and Cognitive Science at Yale and Professor of Psychology at the University of Toronto and he shares with Michael his top five tips for living a good life. And we hear Michael at his best - full of warmth, insight and enjoying his time with the audience and sharing some of his reflections on his life, career and the importance of family.

    Presenter: Michael Mosley with Chris Van Tulleken Producer: Nija Dalal-Small Series Producer: Geraldine Fitzgerald Production Manager: Maria Simons Executive Producers: Helen Thomas and Sasha Feachem Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts Studio Engineer: Richard Ward

    Eat Slowly

    Eat Slowly

    In our bustling modern lives, it can be all too easy to wolf down our meals on the go, and never take the time to enjoy them properly. In this episode, Michael Mosley finds out how simply slowing down the speed at which you eat can help you feel full for longer, snack less, and improve your digestion. Michael speaks to Dr Sarah Berry from the department of nutritional sciences at King's College London, who shares findings showing that eating slower can reduce your blood sugar response to food, as well as reducing your calorie intake. Our volunteer Stewart tries to make eating slowly a habit in an attempt to improve his sleep.

    Series Producer: Nija Dalal-Small Science Producer: Christine Johnston Researcher: William Hornbrook Researcher: Sophie Richardson Production Manager: Maria Simons Editor: Zoë Heron Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts A BBC Studios production for BBC Sounds / BBC Radio 4.

    Volunteer

    Volunteer

    In this episode, Michael Mosley discovers that, as well as being a very rewarding thing to do, volunteering your time, labour or spare room can really benefit your health too. Michael speaks with Dr Edith Chen from Northwestern University in the US, who has been investigating the power of helping others. She tells Michael about her studies showing that by boosting your mood and empathy, volunteering can lower chronic inflammation, cholesterol and even help you lose weight. It’s also a great way to meet new people! Meanwhile, Matt gives back to his local community by volunteering at a food bank. Series Producer: Nija Dalal-Small Editor: Zoë Heron A BBC Studios production for BBC Sounds / BBC Radio 4.

    Yoga

    Yoga

    Although yoga is thought to have been practised for over 5,000 years, its myriad benefits for our health and wellbeing are still being uncovered. Professor Rima Dada from the All India Institute of Medical Sciences in New Delhi reveals the extraordinary findings into the benefits of yoga - how half an hour a day can slow down ageing at a cellular level by protecting your mitochondria and your DNA. It can also improve your brain health and even reduce symptoms of depression. Just a few sessions are enough for our volunteer James to catch the yoga bug!

    Series Producer: Nija Dalal-Small Editor: Zoë Heron A BBC Studios production for BBC Sounds / BBC Radio 4.

    Read a poem

    Read a poem

    Reading poetry can reduce stress and help give you words to express the things you're feeling. And reading a poem out loud has been shown to be a surprisingly simple way to activate your relaxation response and bring about a sense of calm. It’s all to do with the way it slows and controls your breathing rate, which in turn stimulates your parasympathetic nervous system and can lead to many beneficial effects. Michael Mosley speaks to Dietrich von Bonin from the Swiss Association of Art Therapies, who says as little as 5 minutes of rhythmic poetry read aloud can be even more effective than slow-paced breathing at relaxing your body and mind. Our volunteer Colm dives into the world of Irish poetry and incorporates reading it aloud into his bedtime routine.

    Series Producer: Nija Dalal-Small Editor: Zoë Heron A BBC Studios production for BBC Sounds / BBC Radio 4.

    Deep Calm - Episode 5: Using Music

    Deep Calm - Episode 5: Using Music

    Sit back, leave behind the cares of the day and take a sonic journey with Dr Michael Mosley. In this new podcast series, designed to help you let go and unwind, each episode focuses on a scientifically-proven technique for activating the body’s built-in relaxation response, and takes a deep dive to explore what’s happening inside as we find stillness and calm.

    Most of us instinctively know that music can have a huge impact on our mood. But it can also be an effective tool to tap into your body’s relaxation response. Plus thought loops, soundwaves and an encounter with the Organ of Corti.

    Guest: Stefan Koelsch, professor at the University of Bergen in Norway.

    Series Producer, sound design and mix engineer: Richard Ward Researcher: William Hornbrook Production Manager: Maria Simons Editor: Zoë Heron Specially composed music by Richard Atkinson (Mcasso) A BBC Studios Audio production for BBC Sounds / BBC Radio 4.

    Deep Calm - Episode 4: Using the Power of Nature

    Deep Calm - Episode 4: Using the Power of Nature

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    What is it about the natural world that has such a positive impact upon our physiology - slowing our heart rate and blood pressure, settling our thoughts and so much more? One theory is that it’s connected to the repeating patterns in nature - fractals - and Michael discovers that we live in a fractal universe.

    Guest: Richard Taylor, professor at the University of Oregon.

    Series Producer, sound design and mix engineer: Richard Ward Researcher: William Hornbrook Production Manager: Maria Simons Editor: Zoë Heron Specially composed music by Richard Atkinson (Mcasso) Extract from "Fractal compositions No.1” composed by Severin Su in collaboration with 13&9 Design. A BBC Studios Audio production for BBC Sounds / BBC Radio 4.

    Deep Calm - Episode 3: Using Your Imagination

    Deep Calm - Episode 3: Using Your Imagination

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    If you imagine yourself somewhere safe and relaxing, using something called Guided Imagery, you can activate the body’s relaxation response. Plus brainwaves, pupils and thought-birds.

    Guest: Katarzyna Zemla, PhD candidate SWPS / PJATK Universities in Warsaw.

    Series Producer, sound design and mix engineer: Richard Ward Researcher: William Hornbrook Editor: Zoë Heron Specially composed music by Richard Atkinson (Mcasso) A BBC Studios Audio production for BBC Sounds / BBC Radio 4.

    Deep Calm - Episode 2: Relaxing Your Body

    Deep Calm - Episode 2: Relaxing Your Body

    Sit back, leave behind the cares of the day and take a sonic journey with Dr Michael Mosley. In this new podcast series, designed to help you let go and unwind, each episode focuses on a scientifically-proven technique for activating the body’s built-in relaxation response, and takes a deep dive to explore what’s happening inside as we find stillness and calm.

    Deliberately tensing and then relaxing groups of muscles all through the body is a potent technique for engaging your body’s relaxation response. We also encounter the magnificently-named Golgi tendon organ afferent nerve cells, and the interconnected nodes of the brain.

    Guest: Ian Robertson, professor at Trinity College Dublin.

    Series Producer, sound design and mix engineer: Richard Ward Researcher: William Hornbrook Editor: Zoë Heron Specially composed music by Richard Atkinson (Mcasso) A BBC Studios Audio production for BBC Sounds / BBC Radio 4.

    Deep Calm - Episode 1: Using Your Breath

    Deep Calm - Episode 1: Using Your Breath

    Sit back, leave behind the cares of the day and take a sonic journey with Dr Michael Mosley. In this new podcast series, designed to help you let go and unwind, each episode focuses on a scientifically-proven technique for activating the body’s built-in relaxation response, and takes a deep dive to explore what’s happening inside as we find stillness and calm.

    By deliberately slowing your breath you can help bring peace and calm to your body and mind. We discover a sweet spot (it’s around six breath per minute but varies from individual to individual) where bodily rhythms align to enhance this relaxation response, and encounter the wandering Vagus Nerve with its central, critical role in all of this.

    Guest: Mara Mather, professor at the University of Southern California.

    Series Producer, sound design and mix engineer: Richard Ward Researcher: William Hornbrook Production Manager: Maria Simons Editor: Zoë Heron Specially composed music by Richard Atkinson (Mcasso) A BBC Studios Audio production for BBC Sounds / BBC Radio 4.