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    TIP655: Hustle, Trust, and Cash Flow: Nike’s Genesis w/ Kyle Grieve

    enAugust 25, 2024
    What key relationships helped Phil Knight's business success?
    How did Knight's passion influence Nike's growth?
    What challenges did Knight overcome in his early career?
    What risks are associated with participating in IPOs?
    How are incentives misaligned in the IPO process?

    Podcast Summary

    • Nike's early success factorsUnderstanding supplier relationships, cash flow management, and incentives are essential for business growth. Unconventional approaches to happiness and perseverance can lead to remarkable success despite challenges.

      The early days of Nike's success were built on Phil Knight's relentless pursuit of happiness, which led him to take risks and form unconventional relationships. Knight's experience shows that understanding a business's relationships with its suppliers, the importance of cash flow, and the power of incentives are crucial for growing a successful business. Additionally, Knight's unconventional approach to happiness and his unwillingness to give up on his "crazy idea" served as the foundation for Nike's incredible growth. Despite facing numerous challenges, such as selling encyclopedias door-to-door and lying to Japanese manufacturers about his company name, Knight's determination and innovative thinking allowed Nike to become a global powerhouse.

    • Passion vs. Money in BusinessHaving a deep belief and passion for what you do can make all the difference in business success, and trust is crucial in business relationships

      Money and success in business do not guarantee happiness. Phil Knight, despite having a successful accounting career and a profitable business, found joy in his passion for running and travel. His experience shows that having a deep belief and passion for what you do can make all the difference in business success. Additionally, trust is crucial in business relationships, and it can be tested and strengthened over time. Despite the challenges and legal wrinkles, Knight's determination and ambition helped him grow his business, Blue Ribbon Sports, which later became Nike.

    • Banker-Entrepreneur Incentive MisalignmentEntrepreneurs may face challenges in aligning their incentives with banks due to banks' focus on cash balances and reluctance to participate in business growth or failure, leading entrepreneurs to explore alternative funding methods like equity issuances.

      Entrepreneurs like Phil Knight often face challenges in aligning their incentives with those of banks due to the banks' focus on cash balances and lack of willingness to participate in business growth or failure. This friction can lead entrepreneurs to explore alternative funding methods, such as equity issuances. Phil Knight's experience with bankers and his decision to work as an accountant at Price Waterhouse to learn about equity and observe failing small businesses further solidified his belief in the importance of equity and growth. Ultimately, entrepreneurs must navigate these complex relationships and find ways to secure the necessary funding to grow their businesses while maintaining control and alignment with their own goals.

    • Focus and dedication to businessEntrepreneurs and investors should look for leaders who prioritize their businesses over other commitments and maintain a single-minded focus on their company's goals, as demonstrated by Phil Knight's success with Blue Ribbon Sports.

      Focus and dedication are crucial for business success. Phil Knight's story illustrates the importance of putting all resources and energy into one venture, rather than dividing attention between multiple jobs or projects. Despite the challenges and sacrifices, Knight's relentless focus on growing Blue Ribbon led to significant growth and innovation, including the creation of the Cortez shoe. However, this intense focus came at a personal cost, as Knight had no social life and neglected his health. Entrepreneurs and investors should look for leaders who prioritize their businesses over other commitments and maintain a single-minded focus on their company's goals.

    • Personal branding vs business growthExcessive focus on personal branding can hinder business growth, while dedication to the business and valuable connections can lead to success

      Focusing too much on personal branding, such as writing books and using social media excessively, can be a red flag for potential investors or business partners. It may indicate that the business owner is not dedicating enough time to their business. In the case of Phil Knight and Blue Ribbon Sports, their growing success allowed Knight to quit his accounting job and focus on the business full-time. Bowerman's connections in the track community also proved to be valuable in finding sales staff and gaining insights into competitors. However, the business was still in its early stages and faced challenges such as improving shoe quality and securing cash for large orders. Despite some initial misgivings from their Japanese partners due to the less-than-impressive headquarters, Blue Ribbon was able to continue growing and eventually level up to a better location. The importance of incentives and competitive drive, as well as the value of insider information, also played a significant role in Blue Ribbon's success.

    • Supplier Diversity & Cash Flow ManagementHaving a reliable and diverse supplier base and maintaining a strong cash position are crucial for business success. A fragmented supplier base reduces risk and ensures continuity, while a strong cash position enables businesses to pay suppliers on time, weather economic downturns, and seize growth opportunities.

      Having a reliable and diverse supplier base is crucial for business success. The story of Phil Knight and Blue Ribbon Sports illustrates the risks of relying on a single supplier, as demonstrated by Anatsuka's decision to seek alternative distribution channels. A fragmented supplier base allows businesses to mitigate the risk of losing a major supplier, ensuring continuity and stability in operations. Additionally, maintaining a strong cash position is vital for businesses, as it enables them to pay suppliers on time, weather economic downturns, and seize opportunities for growth. Shopify, with its comprehensive e-commerce platform and in-person POS system, can help businesses manage their cash flow and grow at every stage.

    • Nike's early challengesDespite financial losses, lawsuits, and cash flow issues, Nike's founder, Phil Knight, pushed forward, securing deals, opening stores, and signing endorsements, leading to the company's eventual success through perseverance and adaptability.

      Building a successful business involves significant challenges and setbacks. Phil Knight's memoir, "Shoe Dog," details Nike's early days, which were marked by financial losses, lawsuits, and cash flow issues. Despite these hurdles, Knight continued to push forward, making deals, opening stores, and signing celebrity endorsements, even when he couldn't afford them. The company's fortunes began to turn around with the introduction of the popular Waffle Trainer shoe and the expansion into apparel. However, even as sales grew, Nike faced new challenges, such as knockoffs and a $25 million bill from the US Customs. Through it all, Knight's determination and resilience kept Nike afloat, ultimately leading to its transformation into a cultural phenomenon. This story underscores the importance of perseverance and adaptability in entrepreneurship.

    • IPOs risks and misaligned incentivesParticipating in IPOs can come with significant risks and misaligned incentives for all parties involved, as illustrated by Phil Knight's experience with Nike's IPO. After one, two, and three years, 50%, 60%, and 64% of IPOs underperformed. Businesses, underwriters, and public investors have conflicting goals, leading to potential dissatisfaction and suboptimal outcomes.

      Key takeaway from the discussion about Phil Knight's memoir "Shoe Dog" is that participating in Initial Public Offerings (IPOs) can come with significant risks and misaligned incentives for all parties involved. Phil's experience with Nike's IPO illustrates this, as he reluctantly agreed to pay $9 million to the government despite feeling that zero dollars was a fair price. He also shared his regret over not being able to retain full control of the company during the IPO process. Data from Fact Set shows that after one, two, and three years, 50%, 60%, and 64% of IPOs respectively underperformed. The incentives for businesses, underwriters, and public investors are misaligned, with businesses wanting to raise the most cash, underwriters wanting to sell shares, and public investors wanting to buy shares at the lowest price. Despite Nike's strong growth and profitability post-IPO, investors who bought in during the IPO have not seen meaningful returns. Overall, the story of Nike's IPO serves as a reminder to carefully consider the potential risks and incentives involved in IPOs before participating.

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    In this episode, we dive into the challenges of Bitcoin payments and scaling, and how Fedi is addressing these issues. Obi Nwosu explains the concept of Fediments and guardians, while Renata Rodrigues shares her on-the-ground experiences in Africa, discussing the real-world impact of Fedi on communities. We also explore the tools within the Fedi app that empower users to earn sats and the potential of Fedi to unlock talent trapped by financial repression. Additionally, Obi and Renata discuss Fedi’s move towards open-source, social backup mechanisms, and their partnership with Save the Children. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 03:54 - The major problem that Fediments solve for Bitcoin payments and scaling. 04:31 - How guardians function within the Fedi ecosystem and the role they play in protecting user privacy. 05:43 - The concept of the Fedi Order and how it supports the Fedi ecosystem. 15:33 - Insights from Renata Rodrigues on the conversations happening in Africa around Bitcoin adoption. 18:43 - Obi Nwosu's perspective on how financial repression is trapping talent globally and how Fedi can help unlock it. 28:30 - How vendors are responding to incorporating Fedi into their stores. 30:01 - The tools inside the Fedi app, known as Fedi Mods, that enable people to earn sats. 32:17 - The importance of social backup and stable channels within the Fedi ecosystem. 43:35 - Fedi’s partnership with Save the Children and how it is making a difference. 46:52 - How to start your own Fedimint and the timeline for getting set up. 51:00 - Fedi's transition towards becoming open source and what it means for the future. Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Watch the Fedi Live Event at Fedi.xyz. You can follow Fedi on X and Nostr and join the Fedi Telegram community here. Download the Fedi App. Connect with Developers on Fedimint and Discord here. Check out all the books mentioned and discussed in our podcast episodes here. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our Premium Feed. NEW TO THE SHOW? Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Follow our official social media accounts: X (Twitter) | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok. Check out our We Study Billionaires Starter Packs. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here. Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance Tool. Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services. Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: River Toyota Range Rover Vacasa AT&T The Bitcoin Way USPS American Express Onramp Found SimpleMining Public Shopify Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

    TIP655: Hustle, Trust, and Cash Flow: Nike’s Genesis w/ Kyle Grieve

    TIP655: Hustle, Trust, and Cash Flow: Nike’s Genesis w/ Kyle Grieve
    On today’s episode, Kyle Grieve discusses a wonderfully well-written autobiography, “Shoe Dog” by Phil Knight, the founder of Nike. He discusses the importance of identifying and pursuing true happiness while ensuring a stable income as a fallback, the value of hustle, the importance of trust with your suppliers, why focus is so vital to business success, the hidden downsides of issuing equity, the importance of maintaining cash reserves, the complexities of growing a business, and a whole lot more! IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 02:30 - The importance of being aware of what will make you happy in life, and pursuing it with deep focus 07:37 - Why happiness can't be fulfilled based purely on increased earnings power 09:42 - Why hustle and unconventionality is so important to getting a nascent business off of the ground 15:36 - The difficulties of aligning incentives between lenders and borrowers in fast-growing businesses 23:29 - The importance of creating an enemy in business to help motivate executives to continue innovating and improving 25:31 - Why focused business leaders are so important, and why you want to avoid CEOs doing excessive side projects 28:56 - The aspects of cloning Phil took to increase exposure for the Nike brand 32:49 - Why maintaining positive cash balances is so important to the health of a business 47:23 - Why public businesses use dual share structures so management can maintain control 47:58 - Why IPO's have misaligned incentives for investors And so much more! Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Buy Shoe Dog here. Follow Kyle on Twitter and LinkedIn. Check out all the books mentioned and discussed in our podcast episodes here. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our Premium Feed. NEW TO THE SHOW? Follow our official social media accounts: X (Twitter) | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok. Check out our We Study Billionaires Starter Packs. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here. Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance Tool. Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services. Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: River Toyota Range Rover Vacasa AT&T The Bitcoin Way Public American Express Onramp SimpleMining Fundrise Shopify USPS HELP US OUT! Help us reach new listeners by leaving us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! It takes less than 30 seconds, and really helps our show grow, which allows us to bring on even better guests for you all! Thank you – we really appreciate it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm