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    enJune 24, 2021
    What factors contribute to the competitiveness of the mortgage market?
    Why might investors feel nervous about current property prices?
    What historical trends support buying at the top of the market?
    How do fear and greed manifest in a booming market?
    What lessons can be learned from Rob's investment experiences?

    • Record-low mortgage rates fuel property market competitionInvestors can benefit from record-low mortgage rates, but should stay informed and make informed decisions based on reliable data and expert advice.

      The mortgage market is currently very competitive, with lenders offering record-low rates to attract borrowers. This is great news for those looking to buy or invest in property, as it makes financing more affordable. However, it also indicates that the property market is strong and likely to remain so, which may make some investors nervous about buying at the top of the market. Despite these concerns, data and historical trends suggest that buying at the top is not necessarily a bad move, and that the long-term benefits of property investment can outweigh any short-term risks. It's important for investors to stay informed and make informed decisions based on reliable data and expert advice. In this week's episode of The Property Podcast, Robby and his team will delve deeper into the current state of the property market and provide insights and strategies for navigating it successfully. They will also share resources for those feeling overwhelmed or anxious about investing. Stay tuned for a must-listen episode next week.

    • Signs of a property market at the peakFear and greed can lead to overpaying for properties without viewing them, and agents may use sealed bids. Stay informed and make decisions based on reliable data and analysis.

      The property market is experiencing rapid growth, leading to concerns about whether we're at the peak. However, the Property Hub believes there are a few years left in the current 18-year property cycle. If you're uncertain about the market and believe we might be near the top, it's essential to understand what buying at the peak looks like. Signs of a market at the peak include fear and greed playing out, with some people getting caught up in hysteria and paying over asking price for properties without even viewing them. Agents may also start to use sealed bids to their advantage. It's crucial to be aware of these signs but remember that there's no definitive signal that we've reached the top yet. So, stay informed and make informed decisions based on reliable data and market analysis.

    • Buying properties during market peaksExercise caution when buying new properties during market peaks. Instead, consider refinancing and releasing equity from existing properties to buy after a market crash.

      During the later stages of a property market cycle, also known as the winner's curse, properties can sell for significantly over asking price due to sealed bids and fear of missing out. This can lead to potential investors making hasty, overpriced decisions. If you believe the market is approaching a peak, it's crucial to exercise caution when buying new properties. Instead, consider refinancing and releasing equity from existing properties. With competitive interest rates and plentiful credit during a boom, this strategy allows you to sit on cash and buy after a market crash, potentially securing great deals. However, timing is crucial, and the success of this strategy depends on accurately predicting market cycles.

    • Riding out property market fluctuationsInvestors can choose to refinance and take out equity or wait it out during market downturns. Refinancing comes with risks but can provide opportunities. Waiting it out accepts short-term losses but believes in long-term recovery. Rents and yields offer stability.

      While property prices can be volatile in the short term, historically they have always recovered over the long term. Therefore, some investors may choose to refinance and take out equity from their properties while they can, even if property prices are falling, in order to make the most of the opportunities on the other side. However, this approach comes with risks, as there is a chance that property prices could continue to fall, and the investor could end up owing more on their mortgage than their property is worth. On the other hand, some investors may choose to "go with the flow" and wait it out, accepting that their equity may be wiped out on paper but believing that it will eventually recover. It's important to note that rents are less volatile than property prices and tend to closely follow inflation. Additionally, yields can provide some financial stability during market downturns. Ultimately, understanding the property cycle and having a long-term perspective can help investors remain calm and make informed decisions during market fluctuations.

    • Staying disciplined during market frenziesExperienced investors should maintain discipline, seize opportunities, and review their portfolios during market cycles. Chaotic markets can lead to overpaying for assets, but also present opportunities to sell underperforming assets and prepare for downturns.

      Even experienced investors may feel emotions during market cycles, but it's crucial to keep discipline and review your portfolio. The property market may attract attention similar to bitcoin, leading to bidding wars and overpaying for properties. However, this chaos can also present opportunities to sell underperforming assets at a premium price and prepare for the next market downturn by reducing loan-to-value and accumulating cash. Looking at the 2008 crisis, investors who made the right picks could still come out alright, and even those who didn't can learn from the experience. For instance, an investment made in October 2006, just before the London market peaked, could have resulted in a loss on paper, but the area's Land Registry figures show its potential value. Overall, maintaining discipline and seizing opportunities during market frenzies can lead to successful long-term investment strategies.

    • Long-term property investments yield positive returns despite market crashesInvesting in property during market crashes can lead to substantial long-term gains, but patience and timing are crucial.

      Even during market crashes, property investments can still yield positive returns in the long term, as shown by Rob's experience in London. However, the same may not hold true for all areas, as evidenced by the investment made in the Wirral where prices remained stagnant for over a decade. The average UK property, if bought at the worst possible time during the 2008 financial crisis, would have seen a 15% decrease in value initially but would have recovered and been worth 21% more after 10 years. Long-term investors should keep in mind that property markets can experience significant fluctuations, but patience and a well-timed entry can lead to substantial gains.

    • Lessons from Rob's investment experienceThorough research, patience, and a long-term perspective are crucial in real estate investing. Consider market-specific factors like interest rates and economic fundamentals, and be aware of the 'winner's curse' to avoid buying near market peaks.

      Timing the market perfectly in real estate investments is challenging and often unpredictable. Rob's investment in an area that experienced a prolonged downturn serves as a reminder of the potential downsides of buying at the wrong time. However, Rob's experience also highlights the importance of considering the specific circumstances of a given market, such as the impact of interest rates on mortgage payments. Another key takeaway is the significance of location in real estate investing. Areas with strong economic fundamentals tend to recover more quickly from market downturns. Lastly, the "winner's curse" was identified as a crucial concept to consider. This refers to the phenomenon where investors who buy near the market peak may still experience significant growth in the years leading up to the peak, only to see minimal or negative returns once the market crashes. These lessons underscore the importance of thorough research, patience, and a long-term perspective in real estate investing.

    • Long-term benefits of property investmentFocus on buying in good areas, hold properties long-term for significant returns, and historical trends provide valuable insights, even if market timing isn't perfect.

      Even though it might be difficult to invest at the peak of the market and endure potential dips, the long-term benefits of property investment can outweigh the initial challenges. The UK property market historically recovers from downturns, and during those tougher years, you'll still receive rental income. By focusing on buying in good areas and holding onto properties for the long term, you're likely to see significant returns. Another key lesson is that timing the market perfectly is not essential. Past patterns don't necessarily guarantee future results, but understanding historical trends can provide valuable insights. Lastly, for those feeling stressed about the property market, consider watching the TV show "Ted Lasso" for a lighthearted and entertaining distraction.

    • Stay informed about the property marketListen to Rob and Rob's podcast and engage with their Ask Rob and Rob segment or YouTube channel for valuable insights and knowledge to make informed decisions and capitalize on opportunities in the property market.

      Staying informed about the property market is crucial. Rob and Rob encourage listeners to keep up-to-date with the latest happenings in the market by tuning in to their upcoming episode and engaging with their Ask Rob and Rob segment or YouTube channel, Property Hub UK. By doing so, you'll be well-positioned to make informed decisions and capitalize on opportunities in the property market. Don't miss out on valuable insights and knowledge that can help you succeed. Tune in regularly and stay informed.

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    Jobless claims dipped again, despite recent layoff announcements. The government says there were 186,000 weekly unemployment applications which is down from 195,000 for the previous week. Ongoing claims were also down about 11,000 to a total of 1.66 million. According to MarketWatch, there has been a gradual increase of continuing claims since last spring which suggests that it’s taking longer for people to find new jobs, but the job market remains tight. (3)
     
    The latest report on job creation shows that companies added 517,000 new jobs to the market in January while the unemployment rate went from 3.5% to 3.4%. That’s the lowest it’s been since 1969, and reflects the strength of the job market. Economist Sal Guatieri from BMO Capital Markets says of the report: “It raises serious doubts about the economy slipping into recession and the Fed ending its tightening cycle this spring.” (4)
     
    Home price growth has slowed for a fifth month in a row. The S&P CoreLogic Case-Schiller national index shows that it fell a seasonally adjusted .6% in November to an annual rate of 9.2%. The 20-city index was down .5% to an annual rate of 8.6%. Of those 20 cities, Miami, Tampa, and Atlanta topped the list for largest year-over-year gains, although prices are also lower in these cities. The only city with a decline in home price growth was Detroit but only by .1%. (5)
     
    The amount of money spent on construction was down in December. The Commerce Department says it fell a seasonally adjusted .4% to $1.81 trillion. Wall Street economists had expected a flat reading. Single-family construction was down 2.3%. (6)
     
    Mortgage Rates
     
    Mortgage rates dropped a bit closer to the 5% range. Freddie Mac says the average 30-year fixed-rate mortgage was down 4 basis points to 6.09% while the 15-year fell three points, to 5.14%. According to Mortgage News Daily, the average 30-year rate has already dipped below that 6% threshold to 5.99%. The big dip came right after Fed Chief Powell softened his language about inflation after last week’s meeting and rate hike. Freddie says the lower rates will make it possible for as many as three million more people to qualify for a loan. (7) (8)
     
    In other news making headlines…
     
    Elon Musk Partners with Lennar in Texas
     
    Elon Musk is expanding his footprint in Texas with a community of about 100 workforce homes. He’s teaming up with Lennar to build the homes in the Pflugerville area, north of Austin, where the Boring Company is headquartered.
     
    The development is being affectionately called “Project Amazing” with some Musk-inspired street names that include: Boring Bulevard, Cutterhead Xing, Porpoise Place and Waterjet Way. (9)
     
    Real Estate Industry Embraces ChatGPT
     
    Real estate agents are embracing the artificial intelligence chatbot ChatGPT. Business Insider says realtors are using it for emails, property listings, social media posts, and newsletters.
     
    According to Iowa real estate agent JJ Johannes: “It’s not perfect but it’s a great starting point.” He says the chatbot uses all the lingo you’d expect to see in a listing like “open floor plan” and “recently updated.” You can also add to the listing after it’s written if you think that details were left out.
     
    Miami broker Andres Asion offered another example, he was unsuccessful at getting a developer to correct a problem with some windows until he asked ChatGPT to write the email as a legal issue. He says the developer showed up at the owner’s home shortly after that email was sent.
     
    The artificial intelligence chatbot was introduced to the public just a few months ago. It is currently free to use, but some people are saying they’d gladly pay 100 to $200 a month for access.
     
    That’s it for today. Check the show notes for links at newsforinvestors.com, and join RealWealth for more information about real estate investing. It’s free to join and get access to all our data including our virtual live event on February 11th. It’s called “Why You Should Invest in Real Estate in 2023” and features 11 property teams and 1 commercial broker. Once you sign up as a member, it takes about two seconds to register for the event at our website.
     
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    Contract Cancellations & the Housing Market Reset

    Contract Cancellations & the Housing Market Reset
    The Fed’s relentless effort to stomp out inflation is having a huge impact on one of the nation’s biggest builders. KB Homes reported a homebuyer cancellation rate of 68% in December. And the “housing market reset” isn’t over yet. Although the latest inflation reports show that inflation is subsiding, the cost of a home is still too high for many buyers.
     
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    Inflation is Slowly Decreasing
     
    A report on the Consumer Price Index shows a decline of .1% in December with an annual rate of 6.5%. (1) It’s the lowest rate of inflation we’ve seen in more than a year, and a big drop from a peak of 9.1% last summer. Lower oil prices accounted for most of the latest decline.
     
    When you remove prices for fuel and food, the monthly core rate of inflation was .3% with an annual rate of 5.7%. According to MarketWatch, there were few negatives in the CPI report, although the cost of housing is still rising. The report shows the annual cost of shelter at a 40-year high of 7.5%. And those high prices are scaring a lot of potential buyers.
     
    Surge in Contract Cancellation Rates
     
    For KB Home, the Q4 cancellation rate of 68% was almost double what it was in the third quarter. And much more than that compared to a year earlier when it was just 13%.
     
    The last time the cancellation rate was anywhere near that level was at the beginning of the pandemic, but even then it was around 40%. A Fortune article says that, historically, the cancellation rate for builders has only gone as high as 47%. (2)
     
    The data varies from builder to builder and metro to metro. According to John Burns Real Estate Consulting, the Southwest and Texas experienced high cancellation rates of 45% and 39% respectively. Zonda’s chief economist Ali Wolf tweeted recently that the cancellation rate in Phoenix hit 70%.
     
    Based on data from John Burns, the nationwide contract cancellation rate was 25.6% in October. That’s up from 7.9% in October of last year. 
     
    “Conditions Remain Challenging”
     
    KB Home said in a statement: “Current conditions remain challenging. High mortgage rates and persistent inflation, together with an uncertain economy, have made homebuyers more cautious since the middle of last year.” That’s putting affordability out of reach for many people. Others may be hoping that home prices will go lower in the months to come. 
     
    For many buyers, it’s not a choice to cancel. They may have signed a contract and paid their deposit before the home was built, and then with construction delays, and a steady increase in mortgage rates, are finding out they no longer qualify for a loan. 
    Unfortunately, for some, that means the loss of an earnest money deposit, although a survey of 100 builders by John Burns indicates that most builders will return that deposit.
     
    For buyers who don’t get their money back, there’s not much they can do about it. Florida attorney Craig Rothburd says: “Everything in these agreements is drafted in favor of the developer.” That includes a warning that they could lose their deposit if they back out.
     
    Housing Market “Reset” Continues
     
    The situation has left home builders with a lot of inventory, and a lot of strategizing to reduce that inventory. Many are helping buyers by offering mortgage rate buydowns instead of price cuts. KB Home says it is very cautious about price cuts because it doesn’t want to spook buyers who are already under contract. If they think there’s a cheaper option, it could lead to more cancellations. 
     
    The Federal Reserve sees the current housing market situation as a “reset” to bring demand in line with supply, along with lower home prices. Higher mortgage rates typically push home prices lower, which has started to happen, but home prices are still too high for many homebuyers. And lower-priced homes are in short supply.
     
    A return to lower mortgage rates could help but with the current fight against inflation, they are expected to remain in the 6% range for this year. The increase has added about a $1,000 to a typical monthly mortgage payment. According to The National Association of Homebuilders, the monthly payment on a $450,000 new home rose from $1,925 at the beginning of 2022 to $2,923 for the same home by the end of the year. (4) 
     
    New Home Affordability Weakens
     
    That has substantially reduced the number of households that can afford to buy a median-priced new home. NAHB drew a comparison. It says that a mortgage rate of 3.22% is affordable for 34% of U.S. households. When that rate goes up to 6.42%, which is about where it is now, just 22.3% of households can afford that home. And, when the mortgage rate goes above 7% like it did in October, only 20.3% of households earn enough to qualify for a loan. At that level, you’d need an income of almost $150,000. 
     
    Always keep in mind that reports like these are averaging the results for the nation as a whole. Sub-markets will vary, and many of them are still affordable. If you want to learn more about some of those more affordable markets, please visit newsforinvestors.com. You’ll find data on some of the strongest rental and growth markets across the nation. You’ll also have access to experienced brokers and property managers in those markets. It’s free to join and free to access all that information.
     
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