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    “Treasury is used to doing what Treasury wants to do”

    enJanuary 19, 2024

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    • Fed's potential shift to 3% inflationA tighter monetary stance at 3% inflation could impact consumer behavior and housing markets, bringing down house price appreciation but also leading to higher borrowing costs.

      If the Federal Reserve were to accept a 3% inflation rate instead of its current 2% target, it could lead to significant changes in consumer behavior and housing markets. Economists Andrea Eisfeldt and Abdul Albarani discussed this hypothetical scenario on Marketplace, pointing out that keeping inflation at 3% would require a tighter monetary stance, which could make it harder for people to cope with the loss of purchasing power. Additionally, higher interest rates could bring down house price appreciation but also lead to higher borrowing costs. The Federal Reserve would need to communicate clearly and thoroughly before making such an adjustment, as it could introduce additional uncertainty. Overall, this thought experiment highlights the importance of stable inflation expectations and their impact on consumer behavior and housing markets.

    • The multigenerational workforce and ageismEmployers should value diverse experiences and perspectives, challenge ageism, and foster an inclusive work environment for all generations

      The multigenerational workforce, while beneficial for the economy, can present challenges. Older workers, particularly those in the Gen X and baby boomer generations, may face discrimination and feel pressured to hide their experience or appearance to fit into the workforce. This phenomenon, often referred to as being "overqualified," can be a cover for ageism. Employers may have concerns about older workers' adaptability or perceived lack of motivation, leading to stereotypes that older workers are set in their ways or less productive. As younger generations, such as Gen Z, become more prevalent in the workforce, the fear of being replaced or overshadowed can create an uncomfortable dynamic. This issue requires examination and addressing, as it intersects with other forms of discrimination and biases. Employers should strive for a more inclusive and open-minded approach to hiring and management, recognizing the value that diverse experiences and perspectives can bring to their organizations.

    • The importance of meaningful work and innovationOverqualified candidates may struggle to communicate the value of intrinsic career fulfillment during interviews, but small businesses like Wicker Woodworks demonstrate the importance of pursuing meaningful work and finding innovative solutions to meet consumer needs.

      The meaning and fulfillment in our careers often come from the work itself rather than titles or financial gains. However, overqualified candidates may struggle to communicate this during job interviews and risk being overlooked. Meanwhile, the resurgence of vinyl records presents an opportunity for small businesses like Wicker Woodworks. The owner, Matt Wicker, started his company in response to his personal need for vinyl record storage and it grew significantly during the pandemic as people spent more time at home and invested in their home spaces. Despite initial challenges, Wicker's determination and the demand for his product led to the company's success. Overall, the interview highlights the importance of pursuing meaningful work and finding innovative solutions to meet the needs of consumers.

    • Exploring racial disparities in the tax systemProfessor Dorothy Brown's book 'The Whiteness of Wealth' highlighted the need to address racial disparities in the tax system, but more progress is required to mitigate the impoverishing effects on Black Americans.

      While progress has been made in addressing the racial disparities in the tax system as discussed in Dorothy Brown's book "The Whiteness of Wealth," there is still a long way to go. Brown, a professor of law at Georgetown University, shared her experience of becoming a "detective of sorts" to gather data on taxable income as the IRS does not collect or publish statistics by race. Her book brought the topic of race and taxes into the mainstream, but more progress is needed to address the impoverishing effects of the tax system on Black Americans. In the market, the Dow Industrial, Nasdaq, and S&P 500 all saw gains, while bond prices fell and mortgage rates are predicted to dip below 6% in 2024, potentially making home buying easier for some. Matt Wicker, owner of Wicker Woodworks, shared his perspective on the importance of individual contributions to the economy, expressing hope that he may never have to get a "real job."

    • Contributing to racial equity discussionsDespite being part of a committee, progress towards racial equity in tax policy is slow due to bureaucracy and resistance to change. Prioritizing racial equity in all Treasury actions is necessary for real progress.

      Research on tax policy and racial equity is important, but being in the room where decisions are made doesn't automatically lead to policy changes. The author's research on tax laws and their impact on everyday Americans has encouraged further studies, such as one from Stanford that revealed Black taxpayers are disproportionately audited. However, being part of the Treasury Advisory Committee on Racial Equity allows the author to contribute to discussions on racial equity matters, but progress is slow due to bureaucracy and resistance to change. To achieve racial equity in the domestic economy, the Treasury Department must prioritize racial equity in all its actions, including the annual publication of the Green Book. It's crucial to keep pushing for change even when not in the room where decisions are being made.

    • Lack of progress in implementing racial equity in tax policiesThe Treasury Department, under Secretary Yellen, has not prioritized racial equity in tax policies, resulting in disproportionate auditing of black filers of the Earned Income Tax Credit and the need for continued advocacy for change.

      The implementation of racial equity in the green book and related proposals has not made significant progress, despite discussions and recommendations. This is evident in the case of the Treasury Department, which has not prioritized this issue. Secretary Yellen, who is aware of the committee's work, has not communicated the importance of this issue to her staff. The IRS, under Treasury, has a history of disproportionately auditing black filers of the Earned Income Tax Credit, highlighting the need for racial equity in tax policies. Despite these challenges, the speaker remains optimistic and persistent in her pursuit of racial equity in tax policies. The conversation between the speaker and Kai, who has been an advocate for this issue for six years, underscores the importance and urgency of addressing racial disparities in tax policies.

    • From academia to government, understanding power dynamics through tax lawTo bring about change, it's not enough to have influence within an organization. Understanding power dynamics and engaging necessary levers outside of the building is crucial.

      Being in a position of influence, such as serving on an advisory committee to the highest levels of government, is not enough to bring about change if the necessary levers outside of the building are not engaged. Kai, a tax scholar and racial equity advocate, shares her experience of dealing with racism in various aspects of her life, including academia, and how she found herself uniquely positioned to bring a racial equity lens to tax law. She explains how she went down the rabbit hole of race and tax, and how important it is to understand the role of tax law in understanding power dynamics. Kai's work on racial equity in tax law will continue beyond her appointment on the advisory committee, and she is currently working on a book about reparations. She believes that understanding the historical and current impact of tax policy on racial wealth disparities is crucial in addressing and fixing the issue.

    • Reddit to Go Public Despite UnprofitabilityDespite not yet being profitable, Reddit is planning to go public in March. The platform gained popularity for its role in the GameStop and AMC Entertainment stock market frenzy.

      Reddit, the social media platform known for its role in the GameStop and AMC Entertainment stock market frenzy during the pandemic, is planning to go public in March. This news comes as the company has previously stated that they are not yet profitable. Additionally, Marketplace.org has published a list of the Treasury Department's equity priorities and initiatives. The podcast "Million Bazillion" from Marketplace aims to help kids understand complex money-related concepts through engaging adventures. Examples of questions tackled on the podcast include "What is a college account and how does it work?" and "What are unions and what are they for?" Listen to "Million Bazillion" to help kids grasp the role of money in the world around them.

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