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    Trump's Trials: Why lawyers say 'never write anything down'

    en-usNovember 11, 2023

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    • Chevron's methane reduction efforts vs Trump's legal woesChevron advances methane reduction through tech and design, while Trump faces legal battles over property valuations, potentially impacting business in New York.

      Chevron, an NPR sponsor, is making strides in reducing methane emissions through advanced detection technologies and facility design improvements. Meanwhile, in the world of politics, former President Donald Trump is facing multiple legal cases, including a civil fraud case in New York where he and his daughter, Ivanka Trump, recently testified. The case involves allegations of inflated property values by the Trump Organization, which could result in a significant fine and impact their ability to do business in New York. Trump himself took the stand this week, showcasing his familiar demeanor during the proceedings. Each week on NPR's Trump's Trials podcast, hosts Scott Detrow and Domenico Montanaro will provide in-depth analysis of the latest developments in these legal cases.

    • Donald Trump contradicted his sons' testimony in the ongoing trialTrump directly contradicted his sons' claims of limited involvement and lack of memory in the company's financial evaluations, while acknowledging his own hands-on approach and knowledge of undervalued properties, contradicting the fraud case's foundation.

      Learning from the ongoing trial of Donald Trump and the testimony he provided is that he directly contradicted his sons' testimony regarding their involvement in the company's financial evaluations and valuations. While his sons claimed they had limited involvement and didn't remember specific details, Trump himself took a hands-on approach and acknowledged that certain properties were undervalued. This contradiction is significant because the core of the fraud case revolves around the inflated valuation of the organization's financial documents, which the judge has already ruled were fraudulent. Trump's insistence on the stand that these investigations are part of a larger witch hunt further highlights the divisive and defensive stance he continues to take in response to these legal challenges.

    • Trump's focus on external audiences during NY fraud trialTrump prioritized appealing to supporters during NY fraud trial, inflating apartment's square footage and using legal tactics to delay the case, rather than focusing on the trial outcome.

      During his testimony in the New York fraud case, Donald Trump seemed less concerned about the outcome of the trial and more focused on appealing to external audiences. He inflated the square footage of his apartment during the testimony, similar to how he inflated his net worth during his presidential campaign. Trump's team has historically used legal tactics to delay cases, and it's possible that he didn't care about winning or losing this specific case because he needed to maintain his political base's support. The bombastic and combative behavior during the testimony was atypical for Trump in previous depositions. Despite his attempts to exaggerate the value of his assets, he cannot simply make up square footage or net worth without changing the measuring stick.

    • Defense strategy in Trump Organization trial focuses on subjective real estate valuation and use of disclaimersThe Trump defense argues that real estate valuation is subjective, uses disclaimers to cover potential inaccuracies, and maintains no harm to parties involved, contrasting it with the state's populist argument.

      Learning from the ongoing Trump Organization trial is the defense strategy to argue that valuation in real estate, particularly for the Trumps, is subjective and the use of disclaimers in financial statements to cover potential inaccuracies. The defense aims to highlight the lack of harm to parties involved and the subjectivity of valuation, contrasting it with the state's populist argument that ordinary people are hurt when public figures cheat. Additionally, Ivanka Trump's testimony marked the conclusion of witness testimonies for the attorney general's office. The defense is expected to present its case next week, shedding more light on their strategy.

    • Ivanka Trump testifies in a controlled and cordial mannerJudge rules emails between Ivanka and Jared not protected by spousal privilege, partners should avoid work email communication for privacy.

      That Ivanka Trump, a high-profile figure in Donald Trump's orbit, testified in a controlled and cordial manner during the ongoing trial. Unlike her father and brothers, Ivanka did not exhibit the bombast and outbursts that some may have expected. Instead, she appeared as a willing witness, although she could not recall the particularities of some business deals. A key legal takeaway from the week was the judge's ruling that emails between Ivanka and her husband Jared Kushner, sent from their work email accounts, were not protected by spousal privilege. This serves as a reminder for partners to avoid emailing each other from work accounts if they wish to keep their communications private. From a broader perspective, the trial highlights the significant stakes for Donald Trump, who faces criminal charges that could result in jail time and a civil case that could potentially take away his business empire.

    • Trump's Base Continues to Support Him Despite ScandalsTrump's reputation remains strong among supporters despite numerous scandals, allowing him to maintain polling numbers, according to NPR's Trump's Trials podcast.

      Despite the numerous scandals and controversies surrounding Donald Trump, his base continues to support him, allowing him to maintain his position in the polls. This was discussed on NPR's Trump's Trials podcast, where senior political editor and correspondent Domenico Montanaro and NYU School of Law professor Melissa Murray analyzed Trump's ability to shake off negative news. They noted that even after the discovery of Teflon being toxic over a decade ago, Trump's reputation seems to remain untarnished among his supporters. The podcast also mentioned hypothetical matchups of the presidential election a year from now, where Trump was leading in some places. The speakers expressed uncertainty about how this situation will eventually resolve. Additionally, listeners were encouraged to follow NPR's political coverage and support the show. The podcast is produced by Tyler Bartlett, edited by Adam Rainey and Steve Drummond, and technical direction is by Kwesi Lee. The show is sponsored by Mint Mobile, offering premium wireless plans starting at $15 a month, and American Jewish World Service, supporting human rights advocates worldwide.

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