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    Weird laptops of Computex, new Intel and AMD chips, and a WWDC preview

    enMay 31, 2019

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    • Exciting tech news from Computex and upcoming eventsIntel and AMD showcased new laptops and chips at Computex, with Intel's innovative keyboard-in-front design stealing the show. WWDC is approaching, bringing anticipation for Apple's latest offerings, while 5G technology continues to be implemented in cities around the world.

      This week on The Vergecast, there was a lot of exciting tech news coming out of Computex, with new laptops and chips from Intel and AMD taking center stage. Intel's innovative keyboard-in-the-front design, as seen in the ZenBook Pro Duo, was a standout. WWDC is also just around the corner, bringing anticipation for Apple's latest offerings. Beyond laptops, 5G news continues to make waves, with cities in America and Europe seeing the implementation of 5G technology. The future of technology is looking bright, with companies continuing to push the boundaries of innovation.

    • Intel's latest laptop design trend: Larger, adjustable screensIntel's new design concept features a middle screen for ergonomics, larger overall screen size, and versatility, despite potential concerns over aesthetics.

      There's a growing trend towards larger, more versatile laptop screens, as seen in the latest innovations from companies like Intel. The Intel Honeycomb Glacier concept, for instance, features a middle screen that raises up between the keyboard and the main screen, providing an ergonomic solution for working in confined spaces like airplanes. While some may find the design impractical, the benefits of having an additional large screen and the ability to adjust the screen to eye level cannot be ignored. Additionally, the source of the middle screen being from the automotive world may raise concerns about aesthetics, but the functionality and usability advantages outweigh these concerns. The idea of a keyboard-in-the-front club, as mentioned in the discussion, highlights the growing interest and debate around unconventional laptop designs and configurations. Overall, the future of laptop design is looking exciting, with a focus on larger screens, ergonomics, and versatility.

    • Intel's Project Athena: Reviving the Ultrabook MarketIntel's Project Athena aims to enhance laptop features, focusing on battery life, while reviving the Ultrabook market and dictating industry standards

      Keyboards on laptops are not ideal for use on one's lap due to heat and weight issues. Intel is attempting to revive the Ultrabook market with a focus on battery life and other essential features, branding it as Project Athena. Despite some confusion, Intel's market power allows them to dictate laptop specifications, as seen in the past with initiatives like Centrino. The laptop market is still dominated by Intel chips, though the rise of AMD is worth noting. The speaker is excited about the upcoming Dell XPS 13 2-in-1 and the potential for improved laptops through Project Athena.

    • Intel's dominance in ultrabook market challenged by AMD and ARMIntel's 10nm chips lead in high-performance ultrabooks, but AMD's Ryzen chips with tons of cores, good clock speed, and lower power draw and cheaper prices pose a significant threat to Intel's market position.

      Intel is currently holding the market for high-performance ultrabooks with its 10 nanometer chips, but this may be Intel's last stand as ARM and AMD are rapidly advancing with their own technology. AMD, in particular, is expected to offer high-performance chips with lower power draw and cheaper prices with its new Ryzen chips. Intel's dominance in the ultrabook market might not last long as ARM and AMD are making significant strides in chip technology. Intel's 10 nanometer chips are currently the best option for high-performance ultrabooks, but AMD's Ryzen chips, which offer tons of cores, good clock speed, and amazing power draw and price, are expected to give Intel a run for its money in the enthusiast desktop and server spaces. However, the reliability and market acceptance of AMD's chips are still uncertain, and Intel's continued production of 7 nanometer chips might give it an edge in the market for a while.

    • AMD and Intel's Competitive Race for Laptop DominanceAMD and Intel are competing to release innovative technologies, with AMD focusing on marketing strategies and Intel promising faster bandwidth through PCIe 4 and potential PCIe 5. The speaker anticipates significant improvements in laptop performance, but also expresses concern about prioritizing features over battery life.

      AMD is currently in a competitive market with Intel, and both companies are pushing to release new, innovative technologies. AMD is focusing on marketing strategies, such as reviving old successful advertising campaigns and highlighting the superiority of their chips. Intel, on the other hand, is also making strides with the upcoming PCIe 4 and potential PCIe 5, promising faster bandwidth and potential significant improvements in laptop performance. The speaker expresses excitement for the upcoming technological advancements, but also expresses a concern that the industry may prioritize additional features, like extra screens, over longer battery life. AMD and Intel are in a race to deliver the next major step change moment for laptops, and the speaker anticipates that this could be a game-changer for the industry.

    • AMD's comeback in GPU market with Navi GPUsAMD's unique tech, partnerships, and dissatisfaction with Nvidia give them a competitive edge in the enthusiast market, despite challenges in the past

      AMD is making a strong comeback in the tech market, particularly in the GPU sector, with their new Navi GPUs. They've faced challenges in the past, including Intel's dominance and Nvidia's focus on ray tracing, but their unique technology, such as Infinity Fabric, and Apple's use of Radeon graphics cards in consoles have helped them regain ground. AMD's ability to combine different chip parts using Infinity Fabric allows them to create good chips even if they don't hit the bullseye every time. This, coupled with their partnerships and the dissatisfaction with Nvidia's current generation, gives AMD a competitive edge in the enthusiast market. However, the discussion also highlighted the importance of both CPU and GPU performance, as well as cooling, in high-performance laptops.

    • AMD's outsource strategy vs Intel's vertical integrationAMD's decision to outsource chip manufacturing to foundries has given them a competitive edge, allowing them to keep up with tech advancements, but comes with risks if a competitor produces a superior chip design and secures manufacturing capacity.

      AMD's decision to outsource chip manufacturing to foundries like TSMC, while Intel still maintains its integrated fabrication plants, has led to AMD's competitive edge. Although Intel's vertical integration was once an advantage, AMD's divestment from the process of making chips in-house has allowed them to keep up with technology advancements. However, this new approach also comes with risks, as Intel could lose out if a competitor produces a superior chip design and has secured manufacturing capacity. This shift in the industry challenges the traditional notion of vertical integration as an advantage and highlights the importance of competition and adaptability.

    • Apple plans to update core apps and allow third-party iPad app development for MacsApple aims to rejuvenate the Mac platform by updating core apps and enabling third-party iPad app development, addressing criticisms for lack of new apps and hardware issues.

      Apple is expected to make significant updates to some core apps, including Mail, and may open up development of iPad apps for Macs to third-party developers. This comes as the Mac platform has seen a decline in enthusiasm due to a lack of new and exciting apps, as well as issues with hardware like the keyboard. The Mac App Store, which was once seen as a promising platform for developers, has not lived up to expectations due to Apple's 30% fee and limited features compared to traditional Mac app distribution methods. Apple has faced criticism for its handling of the Mac platform and is looking to revitalize it with these updates and changes.

    • Apple's Mac App Store Controls and ConcernsApple's Mac App Store restrictions may not be high enough to keep users from accessing apps outside of it, and the company may need to make it easier for developers to bring their iOS apps to the Mac to keep users from switching platforms.

      Apple's tight control over the Mac App Store is due to the fact that the desktop web is sufficient for many applications, and allowing alternative distribution methods could lead to a mass exodus of users. The speaker suggests that Apple's walls around the Mac App Store are not high enough, and people can easily obtain apps outside of it through methods like Electron or web apps. This is a concern for Apple because it could make the barrier to switching to other platforms much lower. On iOS devices, the situation is different because apps must be natively developed to be installed, making the App Store essential. However, Apple may need to find a way to make it easier for developers to bring their iOS apps to the Mac in order to keep users from abandoning the platform.

    • Apple's strategy to invigorate iPad and Mac platformsApple's push to bring iPad apps to Mac could lead to professionalizing iPad apps, benefiting both platforms, but maintaining unique strengths and user experience is crucial.

      Apple's push to bring iPad apps to the Mac is a strategic move to invigorate both platforms. The Mac users' concerns lie in the potential "dumbing down" of Mac apps and the loss of unique Mac experiences. However, the process could lead to professionalizing iPad apps, making them more suitable for Mac users' demanding needs. This virtuous cycle could benefit both platforms, with improved iPad apps attracting more users and Mac users' demands driving further enhancements. However, it's essential to note that Apple still faces the challenge of defining a clear distinction between iPad and Mac, as they share some similarities but cater to different user needs. The success of this strategy hinges on Apple's ability to strike the right balance between maintaining the unique strengths of each platform while enabling a seamless experience across devices. Additionally, the failure of Microsoft's attempt at universal apps highlights the importance of having multiple platforms to cater to diverse user needs. Apple's approach may face skepticism, but the potential benefits could outweigh the risks if executed effectively. Ultimately, the goal is to create a consistent yet distinct user experience across devices, ensuring that each platform retains its unique value proposition while complementing the other.

    • Apple's efforts to merge iPad and Mac appsApple's attempt to blend iPad and Mac apps signals a shift towards interconnected devices, but challenges remain in ensuring seamless workflows and improved tools for managing multiple applications.

      Apple's efforts to bring iPad apps to the Mac signify a blurring of lines between different devices and operating systems. This trend, which may extend to third-party developers, is made possible by changes to iOS app frameworks. However, the discussion also highlights the disjointed nature of using siloed applications on computers and the need for better interoperability and improved tools for managing workflows that span multiple applications. The lack of a middle ground between the fully abstracted iPhone and the less abstracted Mac or Windows systems is a problem that Apple is trying to address with its continuum concept. Ultimately, the goal is to make computer use easier without making it fully abstracted away from users. The absence of certain tools, such as the ability to drag and move multiple icons at once, can hinder productivity and create frustration.

    • Anticipation builds for new Mac Pro features and releaseApple's rumored Mac Pro update sparks excitement, but details on specifications and release date remain unclear.

      While iOS and Mac have their differences, the complexity of discovering features on iOS can be a challenge for users. The rumored removal of certain gestures like 3D touch and the potential introduction of a new Mac Pro with an in-house display are highly anticipated, but details are scarce. Apple's history of working with external partners for displays and their preference for Intel chips suggest that the Mac Pro may continue to use these components. For desktop computing enthusiasts, the potential for a new Mac Pro running on Intel processors is a likely scenario. The lack of clear information about the Mac Pro's release and specifications has left many in the tech community eagerly waiting for Apple's next move.

    • Microsoft's Decision on Intel vs ARM for Project xCloud and Apple's Antitrust LawsuitsMicrosoft opted for Intel processors for Project xCloud despite considering ARM, while Apple faces antitrust lawsuits over App Store practices. Rumors suggest changes at WWDC, including a combined 'Find My iPhone is My Friend' app and potential developments in mesh or space internet.

      Microsoft's decision to use Intel processors instead of ARM for their cloud gaming service, Project xCloud, has been a topic of speculation. It's believed that Microsoft may have preferred ARM processors but ultimately gave in to Intel's lobbying efforts. Apple, on the other hand, is facing antitrust lawsuits in the EU over alleged anti-competitive practices related to their App Store. These lawsuits, along with concerns about anti-competitive behavior, could set the stage for a significant discussion at Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC). Another interesting rumor about Apple is the potential integration of their "Find My" and "Find My Friends" services into a single app, which could be called "Find My iPhone is My Friend." Additionally, there's speculation about Apple developing Bluetooth-based mesh internet or even space internet. The EU lawsuit and the potential impact on the App Store could lead to significant changes at WWDC. The history of App Review being a part of the iOS development process, with Scott Forstall advocating for openness, has also been an underreported aspect of the story.

    • Apple's Competitive ApproachApple allowed developers to build hooks into iOS to compete with Apple's apps, but this reportedly stopped after Steve Jobs left. Critics argue Apple may be anti-competitive, citing examples like restricting web browsers from using different rendering engines.

      Apple's approach to competition, as discussed in the podcast, involved allowing developers to build new hooks into iOS to compete with Apple's built-in apps. However, when Steve Jobs left, this approach reportedly stopped. The podcast also mentioned a concern that Apple may be anti-competitive, citing examples from other companies like Comcast and their attempts to downplay competition. Apple responded with a webpage listing apps they believe compete with their own, but critics argue that many of these apps are not true competitors. For instance, Apple lists Skype and WebEx as competitors to FaceTime, but it's debatable if these services directly compete. Additionally, Apple's web browsers on iOS are not allowed to use different rendering engines, putting them at a disadvantage compared to competitors like Firefox, Chrome, and Edge. Overall, the discussion raises questions about the level of competition in the app ecosystem and Apple's role in shaping it.

    • Apple's Argument Against Monopolistic PracticesApple's claim of developer freedom doesn't negate potential monopolistic control over its App Store. More competition in app stores is needed to promote innovation and prevent excessive control.

      Companies, including tech giants like Apple, often use the presence of competition as an argument against accusations of monopolistic practices. However, as discussed, these arguments can be misleading as they may require reaching far beyond logical boundaries to make their case. For instance, Apple's claim that developers are free to develop for other platforms doesn't negate potential monopolistic control over its own platform, such as the App Store. The speaker also emphasized the need for more competition in the app store realm, suggesting a desire for an alternative app store on iOS that is not enterprise-focused. The fundamental question remains: how much control should platform vendors have? While some control is necessary for maintaining security and preventing harmful content, excessive control can limit innovation and competition.

    • Apple's iPhone: A Modern Car with App Store LimitationsApple's iPhone offers advanced features, but its closed App Store restricts certain apps from offering subscriptions directly, leading to a suboptimal user experience.

      Apple's iPhone functions like a modern car, handling various tasks to ensure user convenience without requiring extensive technical knowledge. However, the closed nature of the iPhone's App Store raises concerns regarding competition and consumer experience. The inability for certain apps, such as Amazon Kindle, Audible, Netflix, and Spotify, to directly offer subscriptions within their apps and instead forcing users to use mobile Safari for purchases creates frustration for consumers. The debate revolves around the appropriate height of Apple's walls in the App Store, with some arguing they are too high and anti-competitive, while others believe they are necessary for security and control. Ultimately, the consumer is left with a less than optimal experience due to these restrictions.

    • App Store Barriers: Challenges for Developers and UsersHigh app store entry barriers limit functionality and create tension between platform providers and competitors, emphasizing the need for more open solutions.

      The high barriers to entry created by app stores, particularly Apple's App Store for iOS users, are becoming a significant issue for developers and consumers alike. The discussion highlighted the limitations of Progressive Web Apps (PWAs) and the lack of alternatives to native apps for certain functions, such as using Spotify and Safari together. The tension between Apple's role as a platform provider and its position as a competitor in the services market was also emphasized. The upcoming Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) is expected to bring news related to these platforms and their relationships with developers and customers. Overall, the conversation underscored the need for more open and flexible solutions that can provide a seamless user experience while reducing the dependency on proprietary app stores and walled gardens.

    • Asus unveils redesigned motherboard with modular IO ports and Wi-Fi screen at ComputexAsus introduces a new motherboard with customizable IO ports and a Wi-Fi connected screen, while T-Mobile and Sprint's merger faces potential conditions for maintaining competition, and advancements in 5G technology continue to emerge

      Technology continues to evolve with new innovations in both hardware and software. At Computex, Asus unveiled a redesigned motherboard, the Asus Prime Utopia, which features modular IO ports and a screen that can connect over Wi-Fi. This allows for greater flexibility and customization. Additionally, new Ryzen motherboards come with advanced cooling systems for the CPU, RAM, and interconnects. In the wireless industry, T-Mobile and Sprint are merging, but the Department of Justice is considering allowing the merger on the condition that they create a fourth wireless carrier. This shows the importance of competition in the industry and the ongoing evolution of technology. Furthermore, advancements in 5G technology are being made with tests in Dallas and London. Overall, these developments demonstrate the constant push for innovation and progress in the tech world.

    • Potential trade between Sprint and T-Mobile for spectrum and executivesThe scarcity of spectrum and the need for active usage may lead to a 'use it or lose it' system, allowing for more carriers to exist without requiring massive new spectrum

      The wireless industry could see some significant changes if companies find creative ways to share and utilize spectrum more efficiently. Bloomberg reported on a potential complex trade between Sprint and T-Mobile, involving the transfer of spectrum and executives to start a new wireless carrier. However, the scarcity of spectrum and the need for active usage were discussed, leading to the idea of a "use it or lose it" system. This could potentially allow for more carriers to exist without the need for vast amounts of new spectrum. The conversation also touched on the possibility of Google spinning off Google Fi and partnering with T-Mobile to create a new carrier. Overall, the discussion highlighted the importance of spectrum and the potential for innovative solutions to address its scarcity.

    • Hulu's music experience with Jack DanielsHulu incorporates Jack Daniels music and branding into streaming experience, promoting responsible drinking and future updates.

      Hulu now offers a streaming experience where music from art beats is incorporated into lyrics. It's important to remember to drink responsibly with the suggested whiskey, Jack Daniels, which has a 35% alcohol by volume. Jack Daniels Distillery is located in Lynchburg, Tennessee, and the brand's name and design are trademarked as "Jack Daniels Tennessee Honey Art Register." The mention of a specific year, 2024, and the statement "all rights reserved" suggests that there may be new developments or updates related to this offering coming in the future. Overall, this collaboration between music and streaming services, paired with the promotion of a well-known alcohol brand, represents an innovative approach to entertainment and consumer engagement.

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