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    What protects your pension when a company like Carillion collapses?

    enJanuary 19, 2018

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    • The Complex Web of Interconnections between Public and Private Sectors: The Case of CarillionThe collapse of Carillion, a large private sector company that carried out public sector work, highlights the need for better management, board oversight, auditing, and government contracting in the industry, as well as the potential risks to final salary pensions.

      Complex web of interconnections between the public and private sectors, as exemplified by the collapse of Carillion. This once billion-pound company, which carried out a vast array of public sector work, from roads and schools to hospitals and prisons, has now liquidated, leaving behind debts of nearly a billion pounds and a pension deficit of over half a billion. The pressure to keep costs low and the thin profit margins in the industry meant that Carillion, like many other large private sector companies, was operating with little room for error. The failure of Carillion raises serious questions about the management, boards, auditors, and government contracts involved, as well as the safety of final salary or other defined benefit pensions. The system of private finance initiatives and the role of these jacks-of-all-trades, masters-of-none companies in public sector projects is under scrutiny.

    • Compulsory Liquidation of Carillion: Implications for Employees, Industries, and GovernmentThe compulsory liquidation of Carillion, a large construction company, raised concerns about big business stability, government oversight, and the potential financial burden on the state. Thousands of employees were affected, and the controversy surrounding Private Finance Initiatives was renewed.

      The compulsory liquidation of Carillion, a large construction company, was an unusual move due to the company's extensive reach and impact on various industries and sectors. The decision was made by the government to take control and find replacements for the services Carillion provided, such as school dinners, hospital services, and train cleaning. This move had significant implications for the 20,000 employees in the UK and many more worldwide. The situation raised concerns about the stability of big businesses and government oversight, as well as the potential financial burden on the state. Additionally, the Private Finance Initiatives (PFI), a controversial method of financing public projects through private sector investment, have come under renewed scrutiny in light of Carillion's collapse. The individual stories of affected employees and small businesses add to the harrowing impact of this situation. Trust in big business and government to manage such complex systems effectively is being questioned.

    • Conflict of interest in outsourcing public sector workEncouraging local firms and reducing the number of large private companies in public sector bidding processes could help ensure better value for taxpayers and end-users.

      The current system of outsourcing public sector work to large private companies creates a conflict of interest, as these companies are motivated to maximize profits for their shareholders rather than providing the best value to the taxpayer and the end-users of public services. This can lead to suboptimal outcomes and even awarding contracts to companies with a poor track record. A potential solution is to encourage more local firms to bid for public sector contracts, as they have a greater vested interest in delivering high-quality services in their own communities. Additionally, reducing the number of massive private companies in the bidding process could help level the playing field and ensure that smaller, capable firms are given a fair chance.

    • Cost of PFI projects estimated to be £10 billion annually until 2040Critics argue the government overspent on PFI projects, leading to large-scale payments and a debate on whether to bring them back in-house or reform the system

      The Private Finance Initiative (PFI), introduced to involve the private sector in public projects due to its perceived efficiency and cost savings, led to significant borrowing and large-scale payments for existing projects, estimated to cost £10 billion a year until 2040. Critics argue that the government should have reined in the initiative earlier and not overspent twice, first on the initial deals and then on bringing them back in-house. The competition intended to improve efficiency didn't materialize due to a small pool of big companies tendering for projects, leading to concerns about the value for money. The debate continues on whether to bring these projects back in-house or reform the system.

    • The PFI led to high borrowing costs for hospitals and raised concerns over pension promisesThe PFI resulted in high borrowing costs for hospitals, while pension promises from employers have faced scrutiny following the Carillion collapse, once a symbol of secure retirement plans due to final salary pension schemes, but now facing deficits and increased contributions from employees due to unsustainable promises and market volatility.

      The Private Finance Initiative (PFI), which was started under Major's government but gained significant momentum under Blair and Brown, led to the construction of much-needed hospitals but also resulted in high borrowing costs. The National Audit Office reported that lower borrowing rates could have been used instead. The recent collapse of Carillion, a company with a large pension deficit, has raised concerns over the reliability of pension promises from employers, leading to debates about the future of workplace pensions. Pensions in Britain were once the envy of the world due to the final salary pension scheme, where the company defined the benefit and was responsible for paying it. This type of pension could result in retirees receiving more than two-thirds of their final salary. However, these promises became unsustainable due to the bold promises made, investment gains from the stock market, and high interest rates. When the stock market returns deteriorated, pension funds found themselves in deficits, leading to changes in pension schemes and increased contributions from employees. Margaret Thatcher gave pension funds a holiday from contributing to the government, and Gordon Brown later taxed their dividends, further contributing to their downfall.

    • Understanding Your Pension's SecurityInterest rates have decreased, pension schemes may be underfunded, retirees are protected, and individuals should understand their pension's backing

      Understanding the security of your pension is crucial. Interest rates have historically trended downward since the 1980s, but the financial crisis, along with subsequent quantitative easing, led to a decrease in yields on government bonds and potential issues for underfunded pension schemes. Companies cannot easily rid themselves of their pension responsibilities without going bankrupt, and pension trustees are empowered to block takeover deals that may negatively impact pensioners. If a company does go under, pensions are typically protected by the Pension Protection Fund, an industry-wide body that is not taxpayer-funded. Retirees should receive 100% of their current pension, while those yet to retire or who took early retirement will receive 90% up to a cap of around £38,000 per year. Some people, particularly long-term, high-earning employees, may fall through the cracks due to the cap. It's essential for individuals to know what's backing up their pensions and not be swayed by firms trying to persuade them to transfer to inferior defined contribution pensions for their own financial gain.

    • Cryptocurrency Market Fluctuations and RisksInvesting in cryptocurrencies involves significant risks and market fluctuations. Understand the underlying workings and avoid hype and speculation to minimize potential losses.

      Investing in cryptocurrencies, particularly during market bubbles, can be extremely volatile and risky. The speaker in the text discussed the rapid fluctuations of Bitcoin's price, which dropped significantly but then rebounded just as quickly. Ripple, a smaller cryptocurrency, experienced even more extreme price swings. The speaker warned against investing without understanding the risks and the underlying workings of the investment platform. He also cautioned against the hype and speculation driving the market, which can lead to significant losses. It's essential to approach investing in cryptocurrencies with caution and a solid understanding of the market and the specific investment.

    • Understanding the World of Cryptocurrencies Beyond BitcoinExplore various cryptocurrencies, each with unique properties, and consider the risks before investing.

      While Bitcoin is well-known as the leading cryptocurrency, it's not the only one in the market. There are several other cryptocurrencies like Ripple, Litecoin, Monero, and others, each with unique properties and fluctuating popularity. The prices of these cryptocurrencies are largely determined by the level of public awareness and desire to invest before the bandwagon gets too crowded. The appeal lies in the potential for quick gains, anarchic flavor, and the sense of community. However, traditional investing values stability and long-term growth, making cryptocurrencies a high-risk, high-reward alternative. While some experts are intrigued, many are skeptical or unsure of the cryptocurrency market. Ultimately, the decision to invest in cryptocurrencies requires careful consideration and a willingness to accept the risks involved.

    • Understanding Soft and Hard Forks in CryptocurrenciesSoft forks are updates to the cryptocurrency software that are backward-compatible, while hard forks create a new currency from the old one.

      The world of cryptocurrencies is currently in a state of flux, with many new terms and concepts being thrown around. Two important distinctions to understand are soft forks and hard forks, which refer to changes in the underlying software or blockchain that may result in a new currency. The cryptocurrency world is also fixated on the idea of making significant profits, often using the metaphor of Lamborghini money. Meanwhile, the concept of HODL (hold on for dear life) encourages investors to stay the course during market volatility. Despite the current chaos, there's a longer-term conversation happening about the future of money and value exchange. Additionally, some savers may be able to boost their returns by considering local building societies with postcode restrictions, as these institutions may offer competitive deals to limit the inflow of funds.

    • Older Generations Spending vs Younger Generations SavingOlder generations' spending vs younger generations' saving is a contentious issue, with high housing costs being the root cause. Older generations could consider spending on experiences or travel with their children instead of just giving them money.

      The generations are being pitted against each other with older generations enjoying their retirement years and spending their money, while younger generations struggle to afford homes and save for the future. The older generation's preference for spending their money now rather than giving it to their children is a contentious issue, with many questioning their moral and ethical obligations. However, the root cause of the problem is the high cost of housing, making it nearly impossible for younger generations to afford homes without their parents' financial assistance. The solution could be for older generations to spend their money on experiences or travel with their children, creating cherished memories instead of just giving them money. Ultimately, it's important to remember that everyone has different financial circumstances and priorities, and there's no one-size-fits-all answer. The discussion also touched upon the importance of building projects for local communities and the benefits of staying local.

    • Enjoy your wealth before inheritance tax appliesSpending money before passing away can reduce your taxable estate and save you from inheritance tax on the excess.

      If you have significant assets, particularly in the form of a valuable home, you may be subject to inheritance tax on the portion of your estate that exceeds the threshold. However, there is a silver lining: any money you spend before passing away, such as on a family holiday or a new car, will not be subject to this tax. In fact, it could be seen as a way to reduce your overall taxable estate. So, if you find yourself in a position to do so, consider enjoying the fruits of your labor while you can, safe in the knowledge that the taxman will only be claiming 40% of the excess above the threshold. And, if you're feeling adventurous, why not plan that dream vacation or trip to Burma? Just remember to download the "This is Money" app or visit their website for the latest financial news and advice.

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