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    What's behind the UK property and US shares lockdown mini-booms?

    enSeptember 04, 2020

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    • US Stock Market's Impact on UK Property MarketThe US stock market's unprecedented growth, particularly in tech stocks, may influence the UK property market's volatility due to the UK's obsession with property and America's focus on stock market investing.

      The US stock market, particularly tech stocks, have experienced unprecedented growth since the lows of the coronavirus crash, leading some to wonder if the UK property market may experience similar volatility. According to Simon Lambert, this trend is significant because of the UK's obsession with property and the fact that America is a nation of stock market investors. The US stock market's gravity-defying rise, with companies like Tesla and Zoom seeing astronomical profits and share price increases, has left many questioning the sustainability of these gains. While the UK property market has also seen increases, it's important to remember that they are still historically high. The potential for volatility in the property market, as seen in the US stock market, should not be ignored.

    • Market mania and speculation fuel stock price increasesDespite predictions of market downturns, tech stocks and the UK property market have reached record highs, driven by human emotions and market speculation, rather than unique factors.

      The argument of "it's different this time" is often used to justify the extraordinary rise of certain stocks, such as tech companies and Tesla, but human emotions like greed, fear, and panic ultimately drive market fluctuations, making it unlikely that these price increases are truly unique. For instance, Tesla recently underwent a stock split to make its shares more affordable and accessible, leading to continued price growth. However, the stock market is prone to volatility, and both tech stocks and the UK property market can experience sudden drops in value. Despite predictions of a downturn due to the ongoing pandemic, both markets have reached record highs, demonstrating their susceptibility to market mania and speculation.

    • Tech Giants Prove Resilient During CrisisApple, Facebook, Amazon, and Google demonstrated ability to make substantial profits and adapt to changing circumstances during the pandemic, but potential regulatory crackdowns remain a risk.

      The tech giants, such as Apple, Facebook, Amazon, and Google, have proven to be more resilient than expected during times of crisis. Despite being highly valued and perceived as overpriced before the coronavirus pandemic, these companies have demonstrated their ability to make substantial profits and adapt to changing circumstances. The pandemic, in fact, turned out to be beneficial for many tech companies as people were forced to stay at home and rely on their services more. However, the biggest risk for these tech giants is potential regulatory crackdowns. Despite this, the current economic climate might make such actions less likely as governments focus on recovery rather than breaking up successful companies. Meanwhile, other industries, such as UK property market, which were also perceived as overvalued before the crisis, have shown less resilience and have not fallen back to fair value despite external events.

    • UK property market vs US stock market: Different DriversThe UK property market's resilience is due to limited options and perceived security, while the US stock market rally is driven by increased individual investment, particularly from tech-savvy generations using commission-free trading apps. Both markets show growth in uncertain times, but their underlying drivers differ.

      The UK property market and the US stock market have seen significant growth despite economic uncertainty. However, the drivers behind these increases differ. In the UK, the market's resilience can be attributed to a lack of options and a perceived sense of security. On the other hand, the US stock market rally is being fueled by increased individual investment, particularly from the younger tech-savvy generation, driven by commission-free trading apps. While the US market shows signs of speculative behavior, the UK property market remains more stable, with fewer first-time buyers securing low deposit mortgages and overall sales numbers still down. Despite these differences, both markets continue to thrive in uncertain times.

    • Day trading vs property buying during pandemicIndividuals turning to day trading due to job loss may cause market instability, while property buying driven by personal circumstances and stamp duty holiday surges demand.

      During the pandemic, some individuals have turned to day trading due to job loss or furlough, leading to increased speculative behavior and potential for harder market crashes. In contrast, the UK property market is driven by those looking to move homes due to personal circumstances and the stamp duty holiday, leading to a surge in demand. If you're considering a significant purchase like a house or stocks, it's essential to weigh the risks and potential savings carefully. In the case of property, considering hiring a professional buying agent to help navigate the process and secure the best deal.

    • Considering the Benefits of Professional Property NegotiationIn today's housing market, having a professional negotiate property purchases could save you more money than you pay them, as estate agents primarily represent sellers' interests. With economic uncertainty and the trend towards more affordable living arrangements, careful consideration of financial implications is crucial.

      In today's housing market, considering the potential financial benefits of having a professional negotiate the purchase of a property is worth serious consideration. With estate agents primarily representing the seller's interests, having an experienced negotiator on your side could potentially save you more money than you pay them. Additionally, with the uncertainty surrounding house prices and the potential for future economic downturns, many people are reconsidering their living arrangements and looking for more affordable options. This trend, coupled with the increased time spent at home due to the pandemic, has led some individuals to consider moving to areas with lower living costs, even if it means commuting longer distances or working from home more frequently. Ultimately, the decision to buy or sell a property is a complex one, and careful consideration of both short-term and long-term financial implications is essential.

    • Lenders becoming more cautious, increasing deposit requirementsFirst-time buyers face challenges securing mortgages due to lender caution and potential job losses, requiring larger deposits to compensate

      The current housing market is experiencing significant challenges, with lenders becoming more cautious and increasing deposit requirements, making it harder for first-time buyers to secure mortgages. This is due to concerns over potential job losses and falling house prices. Lenders have pulled some mortgage offers due to high demand and a lack of confidence in the market. While there are reports of rising house prices, these should be taken with a grain of salt as they may not reflect the entire market situation. It's essential for potential buyers to be aware of these challenges and prepare accordingly, possibly by saving more for a larger deposit or considering alternative housing options. Additionally, it's important to remember that house price indices have limitations and may not accurately represent the entire market.

    • Exploring Opportunities in Property and Stock MarketsPatience pays off in property market, with potential for better deals. Competition for expensive family homes. Stock market game offers chance to win prizes by picking shares.

      The property market presents opportunities for those willing to be patient, with some properties still not selling and potential for better deals. However, the more expensive family homes are in high demand, making them a competitive market. First-time buyers and those looking for cheaper properties may find better deals and have more time with the permanent stamp duty break. In the financial market, there's a chance to win money and learn with Money's Fancy Share Picking Game, which runs from September 14 to December 4, 2023. Participants can pick a portfolio of shares, and the performance of those shares determines the outcome. The game offers a £15,000 jackpot, as well as £5,000, £2,000, and weekly £500 prizes. Employees of the company are not allowed to participate. So, whether you're a property buyer or a stock market enthusiast, there's something for everyone to explore.

    • Beware of fraudsters posing as bank representativesStay cautious and verify the identity of anyone claiming to be from your bank or financial institution. Use official channels to report suspicious activity and never share sensitive information.

      Fraud is a serious issue that can result in significant financial loss, as seen in the case of a Metro Bank customer who lost £26,000 after being scammed twice. The fraudster used compromised card details to gain access to the account and transferred money out, leaving the payees in place for a week before they were deleted. The customer was contacted by someone posing as his fraud prevention team, who convinced him to give out his details through common security questions and the knowledge of recent transactions. This highlights the importance of being extremely cautious and verifying the identity of anyone claiming to be from your bank or other financial institutions. Banks also need to be vigilant and continuously update their security measures to combat increasingly sophisticated fraud tactics. To protect yourself, hang up and call your bank back on the number on the back of your card instead of using the number provided in a suspicious message. Always use the official channels to verify any suspicious activity and never give out sensitive information over the phone or email.

    • Staying vigilant against scams and fraud, while appreciating the positive impact of initiativesStay alert to scams and fraud, but also take advantage of government initiatives and discounts to save money after quarantine

      Even with careful precautions, individuals can still fall victim to scams and fraud, as highlighted in the story of a man who lost £20,000 to a fraudster. The process of reporting and resolving such incidents can be time-consuming and stressful, with potential blunders and delays from the involved parties. On a brighter note, the success of the Eat Out to Help Out scheme demonstrates the effectiveness of government initiatives in boosting sectors and economies, with over 100 million meals claimed and 520 million pounds spent so far. However, not everyone was able to participate, like the speaker who missed out while being abroad. Despite the scheme's end, there are still ways to save money after quarantine, such as taking advantage of discounts and offers at restaurants. The speaker shared his accidental participation in the scheme on the last day, resulting in a cheaper meal, and encouraged listeners to be aware of such opportunities. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the importance of staying vigilant against scams and fraud, while also appreciating the positive impact of initiatives aimed at stimulating economic growth.

    • Discounts and incentives for eating outThe 'Eat Out to Help Out' scheme and other deals from companies offer discounts and incentives for dining out, helping boost the hospitality industry and encourage spending during economic challenges

      Despite the economic challenges, there are still ways to enjoy eating out at a discounted price. The "Eat Out to Help Out" scheme, although some may call it a gimmick, has helped stimulate the economy and get people spending again. Restaurants like Pizza Hut, Bills, TGI Fridays, and many others are still participating in the scheme, offering discounts and incentives for customers. Additionally, there are other deals from companies like Compare the Market, Gourmet Society, Taste card, and American Express that provide discounts or cashback when dining out. By visiting money.co.uk/bills, individuals can discover more ways to save on their restaurant bills. While the scheme may seem like a simple incentive, it has likely helped boost the hospitality industry and encourage consumers to spend during these uncertain times.

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