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    What should we fix in digital pathology with Puneet Pantane, Crosscope

    en-usNovember 30, 2022
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    About this Episode

    As much as I love Digital Pathology - things that are not always perfect, and the integrations of systems are not always seamless. We don't need to sugar coat it.

    And the sooner we start talking about the things that are not so cool, the sooner we will be able to change them.

    In this podcast episode I discuss the things that need to be improved with Puneet Pantane, the Co-Founder and Chief Marketing Officer of Crosscope, where he leverages the power of new technologies such as AI, machine learning, and image processing to improve the research, diagnosis and treatment of cancer.

    In this episode we cover:

    • What is Crosscope? Where is this company and what are they actually doing?
    •  What is digital transformation? 
    • Who are Crosscope's customers?
    •  What is not working in digital pathology?
    •  If we had a magic wand that can solve any digital pathology problem, what would NUMBER 1 PROBLEM to solve be?
      • Spoiler alert: Puneet - interoperability of systems
      • Aleks - reinventing the wheel in image analysis
    • What digital pathology problems can be fixed immediately (the low hanging fruits)?
    • How to  standardize digital pathology in small pieces?

    If you want to learn more about Crosscope, click here



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    You can find the original FDA guidance document this chapter is based on here:

    Or you can watch me explain the guidelines here:

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