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    What the ETH Futures Approvals Mean for Crypto with Eric Balchunas

    enOctober 10, 2023

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    • Bridge between crypto and TradFi with Ethereum futures ETFsThe launch of Ethereum futures ETFs in the US is a significant step towards legitimacy and increased institutional investment in crypto, potentially paving the way for Bitcoin and Ether spot ETFs.

      The recent launch of several Ethereum futures ETFs in the US marks a significant bridge between the crypto world and traditional finance (TradFi). These products serve as a stepping stone towards legitimacy and increased institutional investment in crypto, with the potential for even Bitcoin and Ether spot ETFs on the horizon. Eric Balacunas, an ETF expert, explains that these futures ETFs are a means to an end, with the ultimate goal being the availability of spot Bitcoin and Ether ETFs. This development is bullish for crypto, as it opens up access to a large pool of capital that is more comfortable investing in traditional ETF formats. The 16z Startup School is also mentioned as an opportunity for crypto founders to gain experience and start building in the crypto space.

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    • SEC Allows Multiple Bitcoin ETFs to Launch SimultaneouslyThe SEC's decision to allow multiple Bitcoin ETFs to launch at once challenges the traditional notion of a dominant ETF in a category, potentially leading to increased competition and lower fees for investors.

      The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) recently allowed multiple Bitcoin-related Exchange Traded Funds (ETFs) to launch simultaneously, which is unprecedented in the ETF industry. This move was aimed at eliminating the "first mover advantage" and preventing the SEC from acting as a "kingmaker." With 7 or 8 ETFs now available, including some that offer Bitcoin and Ethereum together, this event is significant because it challenges the notion that only one dominant ETF will emerge in a category, as is typically the case. This is particularly interesting in the context of Bitcoin, which is often seen as the "holy grail" of cryptocurrencies. However, the launch of these ETFs has not yet resulted in a clear winner, as it may take some time for market dynamics, such as liquidity and fees, to play out. From an analyst's perspective, it's worth noting that the launch of multiple ETFs at once could lead to increased competition and potentially lower fees for investors. However, the lack of significant volume in the Bitcoin ETF market means that it may take some time before we see a clear winner emerge. Ultimately, this is an intriguing development for the crypto community, as it represents a new chapter in the evolution of Bitcoin-related investment products.

    • Bridging the gap between crypto and traditional finance with Bitcoin and Ether futures ETFsFutures ETFs for Bitcoin and Ether can facilitate traffic from crypto to traditional finance, providing advisors with new tools to cater to clients' cryptocurrency interests, despite their inferior returns compared to potential future spot ETFs.

      The recent launch of Bitcoin and Ether futures ETFs can be seen as bridges to the traditional finance world, despite some initial weak interest due to their inferior nature compared to potential future spot Bitcoin and Ether ETFs. The history of ETFs holding futures contracts, particularly in commodities like oil and natural gas, has left a bad taste in the mouths of advisors due to high roll costs and the impracticality of storing certain commodities. However, the availability of these futures ETFs, such as those offered by Bitwise, ProShares, and VanEck, can facilitate traffic from the crypto world to traditional finance by providing advisors with new tools to cater to clients' specific cryptocurrency interests. While the futures ETFs may trail the returns of their underlying assets due to roll costs, they serve as placeholders for the eventual launch of spot Bitcoin and Ether ETFs, which are expected to attract more significant demand and outshine their futures counterparts.

    • The Future of Crypto ETFs: Spot vs. FuturesSpot ETFs may eventually replace futures ETFs due to holding 100% of underlying assets, but futures ETFs offer closer tracking of spot prices and advantages over certain trust-type products. Arbitrageability is crucial in ETFs to ensure investor bets align with intended outcomes.

      While spot ETFs are currently dominating the crypto market, the future of crypto futures ETFs is not yet clear. The speaker argues that over time, spot ETFs may render futures ETFs almost obsolete due to their ability to hold 100% of the underlying asset. However, he also acknowledges that futures ETFs offer advantages over certain trust-type products, such as GBTC and ETHE, in terms of tracking spot prices more closely and avoiding the potential for losing money due to discounts. The speaker emphasizes the importance of arbitrageability in ETFs, which allows for a two-way street between the price of the ETF and the value of the underlying asset, ensuring that investors' bets align with their intended outcomes. The speaker is a proponent of ETFs and believes they offer a fair deal to investors, despite the potential for roll costs. Overall, the speaker sees the future of crypto ETFs as uncertain, but emphasizes the benefits of spot ETFs and the potential disadvantages of certain trust-type products.

    • Approval of Bitcoin and Ethereum futures ETFs in US marks significant milestoneFirst Bitcoin and Ethereum futures ETFs approved in US, offering advantages like liquidity, low cost, and tax efficiency. Significant for institutional adoption, bridging gap between traditional finance and crypto world.

      The approval of Bitcoin and Ethereum futures ETFs in the United States marks a significant milestone in the intersection of traditional finance and the crypto world. This event is unprecedented due to the large number of applications filed at the same time and the regulatory framework surrounding the futures contracts, which are traded on regulated exchanges. The ETFs offer advantages such as instant liquidity, low cost, and tax efficiency, making them a preferred investment vehicle for many investors, especially those who use advisers. The approval of an Ether futures ETF is also significant, as it's the first of its kind in the US. However, it's important to note that the SEC's decision may not necessarily be a change in their opinion of Ethereum being a security but rather a result of the regulatory framework surrounding the futures contracts. The persistence of small companies like Volvshares, who have pushed for approval despite regulatory pushback, has also played a role in the recent developments. Overall, the approval of these ETFs is a step towards greater institutional adoption of crypto assets and bridges the gap between traditional finance and the crypto world.

    • SEC's softer stance on crypto ETFsThe SEC's engagement with spot filers for Bitcoin and Ether futures ETFs signals a more familiar approach to crypto regulation, potentially leading to greater acceptance in traditional finance.

      The SEC's engagement with spot filers for Bitcoin and Ether futures ETFs, despite initial delays, is a positive sign indicating a softening stance towards crypto's integration into traditional finance. This process is seen as a stepping stone towards greater acceptance, even if the futures-based ETFs may eventually be surpassed by spot-based ones. The SEC's communication with filers suggests a more familiar and less contentious approach to crypto regulation, which could bode well for the overall acceptance of cryptocurrencies within the conservative financial community. While the significance of this week's events might be less exciting for dedicated crypto enthusiasts, it marks an important step forward in the ongoing journey towards legitimizing cryptocurrencies in the traditional finance world.

    • ETF approval a stepping stone to Ethereum spot ETFApproval of Ether futures ETF signals potential for larger Ethereum investment, bringing older investors and advisors into crypto market, but may take years to reach same asset level as traditional assets.

      The approval of the Ether futures ETF (BITO) is a significant stepping stone towards the eventual approval of a spot Ether ETF. This approval came during a bear market in the crypto industry, but it is expected to increase interest and investment in Ethereum and the crypto space as a whole. The Ether futures ETF currently holds about 20% of the assets in all crypto funds globally, and it's predicted that an Ether spot ETF could eventually hold a similar share. This approval is also seen as a way to bring older investors and advisors into the crypto market, similar to how iTunes brought younger people to the Beatles' music. However, it may take several years before the crypto industry reaches the same level of assets as traditional assets like gold.

    • Financial advisors as potential crypto investorsFinancial advisors, managing trillions for baby boomers, could bring significant liquidity to crypto market. Their growing interest to retain younger clients with crypto investments could increase crypto's worth to $1.5T+.

      The financial advisory industry, which manages trillions of dollars in assets primarily for baby boomers, could be a significant source of liquidity for the crypto market. With advisors making up the largest group of ETF investors, and a growing interest from younger generations to inherit this wealth, advisers may see value in offering crypto investments to impress and retain clients. The crypto market, currently estimated to be worth around $1.5 trillion, could potentially see a sizable influx from this sector. However, it's important to note that institutions, which hold around 10% of ETF assets, are also potential investors, and their entry into the crypto market could have an even more significant impact due to their larger capital base. Institutional investors, particularly those seeking liquidity, are attracted to ETFs like GLD and SPY, and a Bitcoin ETF with similar liquidity could attract them to the crypto market as well.

    • Different Investor Types and Their Preferences for Bitcoin and Ethereum ETFsInstitutions prefer low-fee, liquid options, while retail investors seek high volatility and potential for significant returns. Bitcoin and Ethereum ETFs will cater to these varying investor types.

      The Bitcoin ETF market will cater to different types of investors with varying risk appetites and investment goals. Institutions, such as pension funds, endowments, insurance companies, and large hedge funds, will likely prefer the most liquid and low-fee options like the S&P 500 ETFs. Retail investors, on the other hand, are drawn to high volatility and potential for significant returns. They may wait for the launch of a double-leveraged spot Bitcoin ETF to satisfy their appetite for adrenaline and potentially high returns. The retail crowd's preference for high volatility is evident in the popularity of triple-leveraged ETFs like TQQQ and SQQQ. The volatility of these ETFs is significantly higher than that of the S&P 500, making it a more attractive option for those looking for higher risk and potentially higher rewards. As for the spot Ethereum ETF, it remains to be seen when it will be launched, but it is expected to follow a similar trend, catering to different investor types. Stay tuned for more insights on the Bitcoin and Ethereum ETF market in the second half of the show. In the meantime, don't forget to check out MetaMask Portfolio, the one-stop-shop for managing your crypto assets and accessing DeFi opportunities. With its easy-to-use buy feature, you can purchase crypto directly from the platform without the need for centralized exchanges. Give it a try and join the growing community of MetaMask users today.

    • MetaMask, Celo, and Uniswap: Making Crypto Accessible and ExcitingMetaMask simplifies crypto purchasing and access to DeFi, Celo introduces a carbon-negative layer 2, and Uniswap launches a mobile wallet, bringing crypto to the masses

      MetaMask is revolutionizing crypto purchasing by offering multiple trusted payment providers, allowing users to buy crypto easily and then access DeFi functionalities like swapping, bridging, and staking. Celo, a mobile-first, carbon-negative blockchain, is also making waves with its upcoming layer 2, which promises decentralized security, a trustless bridge to Ethereum, and real-world use cases. Uniswap, the world's largest decentralized exchange, has introduced its mobile wallet, enabling users to trade tokens on the go and directly engage with DeFi. The odds of a spot Bitcoin ETF approval this year remain at 75%, with the SEC reportedly working with issuers and showing signs of flexibility. Crypto Twitter, while full of spirited debate, adds to the excitement and anticipation in the crypto space.

    • SEC may approve Bitcoin Spot ETF soonSEC's inquiries and industry experts suggest a positive decision on a Bitcoin Spot ETF, possibly before year-end. If approved, an Ether Spot ETF may follow.

      Recent developments suggest that the SEC may approve a Bitcoin Spot Exchange-Traded Fund (ETF) soon, possibly even before the end of the year. This is indicated by Congress's inquiries about the status of such applications, as well as comments from industry experts and issuers who have received requests for additional information. Furthermore, the SEC's previous rejection of the Grayscale Bitcoin Trust was based on concerns of manipulation and fraud, which have since been addressed. If the SEC approves a Bitcoin Spot ETF, it's likely that an Ether Spot ETF will follow shortly thereafter, as there is a pattern of approvals for similar products. However, the SEC's chairman, Gary Gensler, has yet to explicitly state that Ether is not a security, which could potentially delay the approval process for an Ether Spot ETF. Overall, the signs point to a positive decision from the SEC on a Bitcoin Spot ETF, and a potential approval of an Ether Spot ETF in the near future.

    • Crypto Industry Challenges SEC RegulationsThe crypto industry, led by firms like VolShares, is pushing back against SEC regulations, leading to legal battles and potential rewards for those willing to take the risk.

      The crypto industry, represented by firms like VolShares, is not afraid to challenge regulatory bodies like the SEC, even if it means breaking a few rules. This bold approach, driven by the belief that they have little to lose, has led to some wins in the courtroom and a sense of collective momentum in the crypto space. The SEC's strict regulations have pushed some issuers to the limit, with VolShares being a notable example. This year has seen a series of legal battles, but some believe that many of these issues could have been resolved years ago. Despite the risks involved in investing in crypto, the industry continues to push forward, attracting a diverse range of followers, from millennials to baby boomers. The crypto frontier is not for everyone, but for those who are willing to take the risk, it offers the potential for significant rewards. If you're interested in staying updated on the latest developments in crypto ETFs, follow Eric Balchunas on Twitter @EricBalchunas.

    • Effective communication: Listening, language, empathy, feedback, body language, and technologyImprove communication by listening actively, using clear language, being empathetic, giving timely feedback, being aware of individual communication styles, and using technology wisely.

      Effective communication is essential for building strong relationships, whether it's in a personal or professional setting. During our discussion, we explored how listening actively, using clear and concise language, and being empathetic can help improve communication. We also touched upon the importance of body language and tone in conveying messages accurately. Moreover, we learned that feedback is a crucial component of communication, and it should be given in a constructive and timely manner. It's important to remember that everyone has a unique communication style, and being aware of these differences can help prevent misunderstandings. Lastly, we discussed the role of technology in communication and how it can both facilitate and hinder effective communication. It's essential to use technology wisely and be mindful of the potential pitfalls, such as misinterpretations due to tone and lack of nonverbal cues. In summary, effective communication is a skill that can be developed through active listening, clear language, empathy, timely feedback, and awareness of individual communication styles. By focusing on these aspects, we can build stronger relationships and prevent misunderstandings.

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    https://x.com/zachxbt/status/1803371615524364503 
    https://x.com/jmgramke/status/1803792368388264399 
    https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1803759609808564306 
    https://x.com/MartinShkreli/status/1803821631279612367 


    50:38 U.S. SEC closes investigation in Ethereum!
    https://x.com/Consensys/status/1803230653120659641 
    https://x.com/laurabrooksie1/status/1803237492130234633 
    https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1803412140289560849 
    https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1803783619997052977 


    54:30 BitWise launches a new Ethereum ad for their incoming ETH ETF 
    https://x.com/BitwiseInvest/status/1803789737620078875 
    https://zora.co/collect/base:0x9ada0269656e7855c95f54a34d4ef94f78892038/1 


    1:00:12 Kraken exploit for 3m and some drama - vs Certik 
    https://x.com/c7five/status/1803403565865771370 
    https://x.com/P3b7_/status/1803479749005549647 
    https://x.com/tayvano_/status/1803478049280893040 
    https://x.com/sethforprivacy/status/1803520795735683528 


    1:06:34 Donald Trump wants all remaining Bitcoin to be 'Made in USA'
    https://x.com/intangiblecoins/status/1801771689249787936 


    1:08:06 Optimism & Tether Releases
    https://x.com/Optimism/status/1800974991313469445 
    https://chain.box 
    https://x.com/Alloy_tether/status/1802676443781923289 


    1:10:45 Bankless ETHCC Meetup
    https://lu.ma/k0amrrnz 


    1:12:10 Who won the ETH ETF Pitch competition? 
    https://www.jokerace.io/contest/base/0x0f2211f6727e85dbfae20e7dbfe57875a1f2b706 


    1:13:45 Another voting for Bankless Nation! 
    https://www.jokerace.io/contest/base/0x0bac0ec9b6aeafa6c2212f67a67950940eda63a7 


    1:15:38 MEME of the Week 
    https://x.com/PleasrDAO/status/1803572250278514999 


    1:16:17 Closing & Disclaimers


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    enJune 21, 2024

    Diaries of an ETH Maxi on Wall Street | Sam Jernigan

    Diaries of an ETH Maxi on Wall Street | Sam Jernigan

    Sam Jernigan, the “Unofficial ETH Maxi of Wall Street”, has been evangelizing Ethereum to institutional funds and billionaires from inside the house for the past five years.

    Having the perfect blend of deep Ethereum knowledge and the full Wall Street experience, Sam guides us through how he became an ETH Maxi, why the lack of understanding of ETH in TradFi is the most bullish case for the asset and what the future holds for ETH institutional adoption.

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    0:00 Intro
    7:47 Defining TradFi
    20:05 Ethereum’s P/E Ratio
    23:49 Sam’s Background
    40:44 Becoming an ETH Maxi
    52:57 The State of ETH in TradFi
    57:38 ETH Bull Case
    1:06:11 The Flippening
    1:12:11 ETH ETF
    1:19:26 Security vs Commodity Debate
    1:24:00 TradFi: Friend or Foe?
    1:34:39 Regulation
    1:46:07 Closing & Disclaimers

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    enJune 19, 2024

    ETH to $22k by 2030? | VanEck's Matthew Sigel

    ETH to $22k by 2030? | VanEck's Matthew Sigel

    In this episode, David Hoffman is joined by Matthew Sigel, Head of Digital Assets Research at VanEck, to unpack VanEck's groundbreaking ETH 2030 report. They discuss the $154,000 bull case, $22,000 base case, and $340 bear case for Ethereum, and the factors behind these predictions. 

    Matthew dives deep into the role of ETH ETFs and shares insights into ETH's evolving narrative in institutional portfolios. He also provides interesting analogies and comparisons between ETH and Web 2.0, explaining how VanEck will help traditional investors understand and invest in ETH using these narratives and real market data. 

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    0:00 Intro
    7:16 VanEck Vibe Check ?
    8:11 VanEck ETH 2030 Price Prediction Report 
    12:31 Last Year’s Report vs. Present Report 
    15:10 Ethereum Narrative For Retail
    19:14 Pitching ETH To Customers
    25:15 Parameters For Bear, Base & Bull?
    28:49 What If ETH Reaches $154,000 
    32:31 ETH’s Most Bearish & Bullish Scenarios 
    33:40 Solana’s MEV vs. ETH’s MEV
    41:28  BTC & ETH Allocation In Portfolio 
    45:59 Can Data Help Matthew Convince Customers?
    49:30 $15B In ETF Assets
    50:30 Closing & Disclosures 

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    Matthew Sigel
    https://x.com/matthew_sigel 

    VanEck
    https://www.vaneck.com/us/en/ 
    https://www.vaneck.com/us/en/blogs/digital-assets/matthew-sigel-eth-2030-price-target/ 

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    enJune 18, 2024

    CZ, Bull Market Predictions & The Future of Binance | New CEO Richard Teng

    CZ, Bull Market Predictions & The Future of Binance | New CEO Richard Teng

    Now that CZ is gone, who’s going to fill his shoes?

    His name is Richard Teng, the new Binance CEO. He’s joining the podcast today to not only share the story of how he got here, but also to define his vision for the future of Binance.

    We ask him:
    Who is Richard Teng?
    What was it like to work with CZ?
    Why Crypto?
    What is going on in Nigeria?
    Bull Market Predictions?

    If you want to know who’s taking charge in the next era of Binance, this episode is for you. 

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    0:00 Intro
    7:16 Who’s Richard Teng
    15:54 The Last 2 Years
    24:30 Filling CZ Shoes
    34:58 The Future of Binance
    48:33 What is Going on in Nigeria?
    54:31 Why Crypto?
    1:03:33 BNB Chain
    1:05:48 Richard Teng’s Routine
    1:08:25 Bull Market Predictions
    1:14:21 Advice for Investors
    1:16:17 User Fund Security
    1:19:31 Closing & Disclaimers

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    Richard Teng
    https://x.com/_RichardTeng  

    Tigran Gambaryan Article
    https://www.binance.com/en/blog/leadership/from-richard-teng-binance-ceo-tigran-gambaryan-is-innocent-and-must-be-released-3634612934164622056  

    Binance Proof of Reserves
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    enJune 17, 2024

    ROLLUP: ZkSync Airdrop | Optimism Fault Proofs | Pectra Ethereum Upgrade

    ROLLUP: ZkSync Airdrop | Optimism Fault Proofs | Pectra Ethereum Upgrade

    Bankless Friday Weekly Rollup 
    2nd Week of June 2024

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    0:00 Intro

    3:31 Markets

    8:20 Gary G Says ETH ETF Approval “Sometime in Summer”
    https://x.com/tier10k/status/1801261940615848004 

    9:19 L2 Update

    11:04  The Fed expects to cut rates just once this year
    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/12/fed-meeting-today-on-interest-rate.html 

    15:41 Will BTC ETF follow the gold ETF success path?  
    https://x.com/hongkim__/status/1799442365892985257 

    20:48 ZKSync introduced ZK token 
    https://x.com/TheZKNation/status/1800424206129357194 
    https://app.aevo.xyz/perpetual/zk 
    https://x.com/eekeyguy_eth/status/1800461976969035910 
    https://blog.zknation.io/zk-token/ 
    https://zknation.ghost.io/content/images/2024/06/points.png 
    https://x.com/LibraryDefi/status/1800589632909832509 
    https://x.com/Gautamguptagg/status/1800539906923733397 
    https://x.com/Gautamguptagg/status/1800539906923733397 
    https://x.com/TheZKNation/status/1801020410563060031 
    https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1801024526001815616 
    https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1800758353511207103 

    36:46 Speaking of Airdrops: Taiko launched their TAIKO token 
    https://x.com/taikoxyz/status/1798336750668136851 
    Find out whether you are eligible via Claimables! 
    https://bankless.cc/3Jte55n  

    38:33 Optimism’s fault proofs are live! 
    https://x.com/l2beat/status/1800530188171674070 
    https://x.com/VitalikButerin/status/1800547329931620625 

    49:23 Pectra is about to became the biggest upgrade of Ethereum history: 
    https://x.com/sassal0x/status/1798869850200412383 

    55:34 Symbiotic introduced their restaking platform 
    https://x.com/symbioticfi/status/1800530004776022493 

    59:29 Eigen Labs acquired Rio Network 
    https://x.com/eigen_labs/status/1800888626642899321 

    1:01:41 Crypto:The Game was acquired by Uniswap! 
    https://x.com/cryptothegame_/status/1800199946739822594 

    1:06:28 PleasrDAO releases the WuTang Album
    https://pitchfork.com/news/wu-tang-clan-once-upon-a-time-in-shaolin-turned-into-nft/ 
    https://www.thealbum.com/ 

    1:09:12 Terraform Labs agreed to pay SEC $4.5B! 
    https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2024/06/12/terraform-labs-do-kwon-agree-to-pay-sec-a-combined-45b-in-civil-fraud-case/ 
    https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1800955721955283053     

    1:11:44 Alchemy introduced platform for building rollups 
    https://x.com/alchemyplatform/status/1798747911226040679 

    1:13:03 New Paradigm Fund
    https://x.com/matthuang/status/1801283717664526835 

    1:14:41 The Daily Gwei 
    https://www.youtube.com/@TheDailyGwei/videos  
    https://x.com/thedailygwei  
    https://x.com/sassal0x 
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/into-the-ether/id1443920565  

    1:15:49 Closing & Disclaimers

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    enJune 14, 2024

    BitVM: The Holy Grail for Bitcoin? | Creator Robin Linus

    BitVM: The Holy Grail for Bitcoin? | Creator Robin Linus

    Today on the show, we’re exploring the frontier of ZK Rollups on Bitcoin! 

    The Bitcoin L2 landscape is standing on the shoulders of this technical implementation called BitVM. We brought Robin Linus, one of the author’s of the BitVM White Paper, to not only dive into how BitVM got started, but more importantly, what it means for the future of Bitcoin.

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    0:00 Intro
    5:03 Who is Robin Linus?
    10:20 Why Bitcoin?
    16:19 Bitcoin Needs to Scale
    22:15 BitVM Eureka Moment
    24:31 The State of BitVM
    27:19 BitVM vs Ethereum Rollups
    33:45 How Does BitVM Work?
    46:07 BitVM Critiques
    55:07 The Bitcoin L2 Space
    59:33 The BitVM Endgame
    1:03:07 The Future of Bitcoin
    1:07:09 Closing & Disclaimers

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    Robin Linus Website
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    BitVM
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    enJune 13, 2024

    The Trillion Dollar ETH Pitch | RSA+DH

    The Trillion Dollar ETH Pitch | RSA+DH

    The Ethereum ETF is coming. What’s the best narrative for ETH to sell to TradFi/Wall Street? Ryan and David discuss the 7 leading ETH Narratives and then have a pitch-off amongst themselves. Each of them prepared a 1-2 minute pitch and then they each spend some time unpacking each other’s pitch and analyzing each point. Bankless Citizens get to vote - whose was better? Ryan or David’s? The winner gets a bragging rights POAP. 

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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Intro

    2:26 Eric Balchunas
    https://x.com/EricBalchunas/status/1794023427327533456 

    4:44 ETH Narratives
    https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1795595286972383494  

    5:58 Ethereum is a Tokenization Platform
    https://twitter.com/ChainLinkGod/status/1798133271139901668 
    https://twitter.com/ChainLinkGod/status/1798133271139901668/photo/1 

    9:26 Ethereum is an app store
    https://twitter.com/jdorman81/status/1792927796353814640 

    13:56 Operating system and app store
    https://x.com/RasterlyRock/status/1791217181012701682 

    17:15 ETH is Digital Oil
    ​​https://twitter.com/0xkydo/status/1740750772093296938  

    20:37 ETH is an Internet Bond
    https://www.bankless.com/eth-the-internet-bond 

    23:38 Programmable Money
    https://x.com/econoar/status/1124311475428790273 

    25:59 "ETH is Ultra Sound Money"
    https://twitter.com/drakefjustin/status/1352734923703123968 

    31:44 Pitches + Debrief/Analysis + Vote https://www.jokerace.io/contest/base/0x0f2211f6727e85dbfae20e7dbfe57875a1f2b706 

    44:05 Closing & Disclaimers

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    enJune 12, 2024

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    6:35 SEC Suing Uniswap?
    9:57 US Regulation Handbrakes
    19:48 State of the Bull Market
    29:45 Navigating Interest Rates
    35:40 Understanding Debasement
    47:25 Crypto Adoption
    57:11 Crypto Summer
    1:03:12 The L1 Race
    1:07:17 The Role of ETFs
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    1:22:15 The Secular Thesis
    1:26:20 Raoul’s Portfolio
    1:30:47 Real Vision
    1:33:01 The State of AI
    1:36:31 Closing & Disclaimers

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    Real Vision Festival of Learning
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    Raoul Pal The Journey Man
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    79 - The Crypto Coalition | Ryan Selkis

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    However, we also discuss a perhaps more pressing issue: the state of regulation for the industry. Ryan is poised to take a strong leadership role in the political side of crypto, and he’s developing offensive strategies for the crypto vs. nation-state conflict. Listen in to learn why he’s now a single-issue voter.

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    27:30 Single Issue Voters
    35:49 It’s a Team Sport
    45:00 Aligning with Regulators
    54:00 Institutional Reactions
    57:23 What the Markets Say
    1:01:01 Ether as an Asset
    1:08:40 The Flippening
    1:10:44 Ethereum’s Narrative
    1:13:53 Market Cap vs Money
    1:17:37 Institutional Demand
    1:19:55 Hot Sectors for Analysis
    1:23:24 The Network State
    1:26:41 Closing & Disclaimers

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    Resources:

    Ryan on Twitter:
    https://twitter.com/twobitidiot?s=20 
    Ryan’s Tweet Thread:
    https://twitter.com/twobitidiot/status/1426020410370449410?s=20 
    Mainnet Event:
    https://mainnet.events/ 
    Messari:
    https://messari.io/ 

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    Disclosure. From time-to-time I may add links in this newsletter to products I use. I may receive commission if you make a purchase through one of these links. Additionally, the Bankless writers hold crypto assets. See our investment disclosures here:
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    Expert's Take: Is a Bitcoin ETF Really Possible? with James Seyffart

    Expert's Take: Is a Bitcoin ETF Really Possible? with James Seyffart

    Today we're joined by James Seyffart, a research analyst at Bloomberg who's the perfect person to answer our questions regarding the convergence of crypto and ETFs.

    We dive into:
    - The probabilities of a Blackrock Bitcoin ETF and why
    - Important dates in which the SEC will need to give us answers
    - Neutrality, or lack thereof around the ETF approval process

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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Intro
    7:44 What is an ETF?
    13:00 ETF History Lesson
    17:40 ETF Market Size and Holders
    22:46 Types of ETFs
    27:02 Where Are These Assets Stores
    34:04 Who Approves ETFs?
    40:08 Neutrality Of Regulators
    44:16 Types of Bitcoin ETFs
    49:17 Reasons For Rejection
    55:12 Does Gary Just Hate Crypto?
    58:13 Does Blackrock Change Things?
    1:04:46 Will Blackrock Get Approved?
    1:15:20 Possible Approval Dates
    1:19:09 Lack of ETFs to Blame For Crypto Fallout?
    1:28:38 Why Should we Care?
    1:34:14 Risks and Disclaimers

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    RESOURCES

    James on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JSeyff 

    Trillions Podcast: https://www.bloomberg.com/podcasts/series/trillions 

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    ⁠https://www.bankless.com/disclosures⁠

    When Ethereum ETF? | Matt Hougan & Ryan Rasmussen of Bitwise

    When Ethereum ETF? | Matt Hougan & Ryan Rasmussen of Bitwise

    The Bitcoin ETF was a huge win for Crypto. What’s next? Will an Ethereum ETF be approved?


    We brought Matt Hougan & Ryan Rasmussen of Bitwise to explore exactly that. 


    We go through what made the BTC ETF so successful, what we need to replicate the process for Ethereum and what comes after the ETH ETF.


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    TIMESTAMPS


    0:00 Intro
    6:50 Bitcoin ETFs So Far
    10:40 BTC ETF 2nd Acceleration
    22:56 Crypto Default Allocation
    26:31 Who’s Buying the BTC ETF?
    28:59 Bitcoin vs Gold
    36:46 When ETH ETF?
    46:39 Forces at Play
    53:25 ETH ETF Derivatives
    58:38 ETH ETF Price Impact
    1:02:10 ETH Narratives
    1:08:31 What’s Next
    1:12:02 Closing Thoughts


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    RESOURCES


    Matt Hougan
    https://twitter.com/Matt_Hougan 


    Ryan Rasmussen
    https://twitter.com/RasterlyRock  


    Bitwise
    https://bitwiseinvestments.com/  


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    Disclosure. From time-to-time I may add links in this newsletter to products I use. I may receive commission if you make a purchase through one of these links. Additionally, the Bankless writers hold crypto assets.


    See our investment disclosures here:
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    10 Predictions for 2023 with Ryan & David

    10 Predictions for 2023 with Ryan & David

    Tune in to hear Ryan and David share their 2023 crypto predictions on all major areas of crypto: Bitcoin, Ethereum, prices, Alt L1s, L2s, NFTs, regulation, and so much more.

    Also, major-major-major Bankless alpha leak towards the end of the show that you will not want to miss. Trust, anon.

    For the last time this year, Happy New Year.

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    Timestamps:

    0:00 Intro
    6:45 Bitcoin
    https://buybitcoinworldwide.com/halving/ 
    https://nostr.com/ 
    16:20 Ethereum
    https://twitter.com/protolambda/status/1608870249704861696 
    https://twitter.com/protolambda/status/1608870266582749191 
    https://twitter.com/protolambda/status/1608870312090955777  https://twitter.com/protolambda/status/1608870317430308865 
    https://ultrasound.money/ 
    25:22 Prices
    https://www.kraken.com/prices/bitcoin?quote=usd&interval=1w 
    https://www.kraken.com/prices/ethereum?quote=usd&interval=1w 
    https://www.kraken.com/prices/ethereum?quote=btc&interval=1w 
    34:20 Alt L1s
    https://www.coingecko.com/en/categories/smart-contract-platform 
    40:10 L2s
    https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/polygon 
    https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/optimism 
    https://arbitrum.io/ 
    https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/starknet 
    https://l2beat.com/scaling/activity 
    https://twitter.com/ercwl/status/1609804900472619009 
    50:14 NFTs
    https://nftpricefloor.com/ 
    58:24 CeFi
    1:04:55 SEC + CFTC Standoff
    https://imgur.com/3ixtonT 
    https://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/8590-22 
    https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/12/13/us-judge-in-ooki-dao-trial-orders-cftc-to-serve-original-founders-with-lawsuit/ 
    1:10:50 Bankless
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCRxYlYOmLE2l5wxs3ckJtg 
    1:16:05 What Ryan and David are Bullish on
    1:22:26 Closing & Disclaimers

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    Resources:

    Bankless 2023 Predictions
    https://newsletter.banklesshq.com/p/bankless-2023-predictions 

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