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    Who’s afraid of a no-deal Brexit? What the next PM taking us out Europe without a deal means for your money

    enJuly 19, 2019

    Podcast Summary

    • Possible economic consequences of a no-deal BrexitA no-deal Brexit could trigger a recession, a 30 billion pound hole in public finances, a 10% pound drop, a 5% stock market decrease, and 3% inflation increase.

      The threat of a no-deal Brexit is back on the table, and it could have significant negative impacts on the economy and individual finances. According to the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR), a no-deal Brexit could lead to an imminent recession, a 30 billion pound hole in the public finances, a 10% fall in the pound, a 5% drop in the stock market, and inflation pushing up by 3%. This pessimistic outlook is due to the current political instability in the UK, with Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt, the two leading contenders for prime minister, both willing to leave with no deal if necessary. The pound has already reflected this increased likelihood of no deal, with its value dropping as international investors look for safer places to park their cash. Without the withdrawal agreement as a safety net, there's a risk that parliament could be forced to accept a no-deal Brexit, despite efforts to prevent it.

    • The OBR's worst-case scenario for a no-deal BrexitA no-deal Brexit could lead to a 1.2% drop in real GDP, a 4% smaller economy, 5% unemployment, and a 10% pound depreciation. Business investment would drop sharply, causing a mild recession.

      The economic impact of a no-deal Brexit, according to the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR), could result in a 1.2% drop in real gross domestic product in 2020, an economy that is 4% smaller than assumed in recent forecasts, and an unemployment rate of 5%. This scenario is based on the assumption that Britain would have EU tariffs on its exports and impose tariffs on imports, causing extra friction on goods coming in and out of the country. This friction would lead to a sharp drop in business investment, a mild recession, and a 10% fall in the value of the pound. However, it's important to note that this is the OBR's best-worst case scenario, and other economists hold differing views. For instance, Jacob Rees-Mogg believes there could be an 800 billion pound boost to the economy. Ultimately, the true economic impact of Brexit remains uncertain. The discussion also touched upon the role of the Polish parliament and the potential impact of Boris Johnson's leadership on the UK's EU exit.

    • Economic growth in the UK since 2016 impacted by BrexitBrexit has hindered UK economic growth, causing a decrease in the value of the pound and potential economic uncertainty. Preparations have been made to mitigate disruption, but the greatest risk is prolonged negotiations which could negatively impact businesses and investors.

      While the UK economy has grown since 2016, it has been less than what it could have been due to various factors including Brexit. This has led to a decrease in the value of the pound, making Britons poorer compared to other currencies. A no deal Brexit could bring further economic uncertainty, potentially requiring lengthy negotiations to revert to previous trading arrangements. However, some preparations have been made to mitigate disruption. The greatest risk is slipping back into a prolonged negotiation process, which could negatively impact businesses and investors. Despite these challenges, the spurious claims and fact-checking industries have seen growth due to the Brexit debate. Ultimately, the economy's resilience and the potential benefits of Brexit, such as the elimination of plastic for kippers, must be weighed against these risks.

    • Britain's Strong Sectors Amid Brexit UncertaintyBrexit uncertainty negatively impacts Britain's investment prospects, but the country has robust sectors like high-end manufacturing, motor industry, and financial services. Delaying a resolution increases potential consequences, and decisive action is necessary to minimize damage.

      Despite concerns about Britain's investment prospects due to Brexit, the country still has strong sectors such as high-end manufacturing, a highly-rated motor industry, and financial services. However, the prolonged uncertainty surrounding Brexit is not helping the situation, and there's a risk of losing some business to Europe. The longer the delay in reaching a resolution, the greater the potential negative consequences. Some argue that it might be better to face the consequences of Brexit head-on rather than continuously delaying the process. The financial crisis serves as a reminder that kicking the can down the road may provide temporary relief but could lead to more significant problems in the long run. Ultimately, there's a need for decisive action to move forward and minimize the damage.

    • Economic distortions from prolonged low interest ratesLow interest rates have caused issues in housing, bonds, and tech valuations. Austerity and negative rhetoric have worsened the situation, but economic situations can change, and optimism is key.

      The prolonged period of low interest rates has led to various economic distortions, causing issues in the housing market, government bonds, and tech industry valuations. The austerity model, which prioritized present savings over future spending, has also contributed to the problem. Moreover, excessive negative rhetoric around the economy, particularly regarding the pound and Brexit, can negatively impact it. Looking back at the past, it's clear that the housing market's downturn during the 2009 financial crisis was met with skepticism, and many believed that the best bargains had already passed. However, as history shows, economic situations can change, and it's crucial to remain optimistic and avoid trash talking the economy.

    • Buying property or investing during economic downturnsConsider buying during economic downturns for potential long-term gains, but assess the context and duration of the downturn and economic indicators.

      The best time to buy property or invest in the stock market might be when others are fearful, as evidenced by Rightmove's prediction to buy in the depths of the 2009 housing market crash. While the UK stock market has lagged behind international markets since then, it's important to consider the context and duration of economic downturns. The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) forecasts a potential recession, but the length and severity are uncertain. However, a Brexit deal could stimulate the economy and lead to a temporary growth period before another potential downturn. Boris Johnson's proposed tax cuts could further boost consumer confidence and spending. The lesson remains: seizing opportunities during times of fear can lead to significant long-term gains.

    • Boris Johnson's Focus: Brexit and a General ElectionBoris Johnson plans to deliver Brexit by Oct 31st and call a general election afterwards. Labour wants a new referendum, while the Lib Dems and Brexit Party remain firm. Lloyds Bank and Schroders launch a new financial planning business, Schroders Personal Wealth, offering investment advice to Lloyds customers, but with potential for biased recommendations.

      Boris Johnson is expected to become the UK's prime minister soon and his main focus will be on delivering Brexit. He aims to get it done by October 31st, but it's uncertain if he'll manage to do so. Once Brexit is sorted, he plans to call a general election to seek a mandate from the people. The Labour Party wants to prevent a no-deal or damaging Brexit and is calling for a new referendum, while the Lib Dems and Brexit Party are firmly on their respective sides. Meanwhile, Lloyds Bank and Schroders have launched a new financial planning business called Schroders Personal Wealth, which offers investment advice to Lloyds customers with significant savings or income. This move, while not a surprise, is significant as it shows a growing trend towards banks offering more comprehensive financial services to their customers. However, the advisors provided by Schroders Personal Wealth are not independent, which raises questions about the potential for biased recommendations.

    • Lloyds Bank partners with Schroders to offer financial advice and investment productsLloyds Bank partners with Schroders to provide customers with trustworthy financial advice and investment options, addressing past misselling concerns, and requiring payment for advice instead of taking commissions.

      Lloyds Bank is partnering with Schroders to offer financial advice and investment products to customers who have excess savings. This recognition of the need for financial advice, particularly for those with significant savings, comes after concerns about past misselling practices. The Retail Distribution Review (RDR) has helped reduce the incentive for misselling, but finding a trustworthy financial adviser remains a challenge. Lloyds aims to address this by offering decent investment products through Schroders, requiring customers to pay for advice or time instead of taking commissions. This partnership could potentially help customers grow their wealth over time, but concerns about less reputable companies entering the market remain. It's essential to ensure that the lessons from past misselling scandals are not forgotten and that consumers are protected.

    • Seeking Financial Advice: Trusting Large Institutions' Wealth Management ServicesIndividuals uncertain about financial advisors can consider large institutions for wealth management services, which could expand due to higher profits. Expert advice is crucial in complex financial situations, especially when considering unconventional tax avoidance strategies.

      Individuals seeking financial advice but unsure of whom to trust may find solace in large financial institutions' wealth management services. Lloyds and Schroeder's potential entry into this market could lead to more banks following suit, making it a large-scale business. However, profit margins are considerably higher than retail banking. Another topic discussed was a creative yet questionable tax avoidance scheme involving a fake divorce for pension splitting. Despite the couple's intentions to remarry, this plan was advised against due to the complex rules surrounding pension sharing and tax relief. Seeking expert advice before attempting such transactions is crucial. Overall, the discussion highlighted the importance of expert advice in navigating complex financial situations and the potential growth of large-scale wealth management services.

    • Proving a Genuine Divorce to Avoid Tax ScrutinyTo avoid tax scrutiny for pension tax relief claims during a divorce, file a genuine divorce petition, provide grounds, and avoid remarriage or cohabitation shortly after. Engagement rings are generally considered gifts, but explicit agreements for their return can impact tax relief.

      Tax authorities may scrutinize pension tax relief claims if they suspect a divorce and remarriage was solely for tax avoidance purposes. To prove a divorce was genuine, one must file a divorce petition, provide grounds such as unreasonable behavior or adultery, and avoid living together or remarrying shortly after. Engagement rings given during an engagement are generally considered gifts and the receiver's property, unless there was an explicit agreement for it to be returned if the marriage did not take place. The tax savings from pension contributions and tax relief can be significant, but engaging in tax avoidance schemes may lead to constant worry and potential consequences.

    • Legality of keeping an engagement ring after a breakupThe legality of keeping an engagement ring after a breakup is uncertain, and the decision can depend on personal feelings and circumstances.

      The legality of keeping an engagement ring after a breakup is uncertain and depends on whether it can be proven that the ring was expected to be returned if the marriage did not take place. Some people might choose to sell the ring or engage in a dispute over it, while others might opt to give it back or keep it as a memory. Ultimately, the decision can depend on personal feelings and circumstances. If you have experienced this situation, we would be interested in hearing your story. Remember, this is not a trivial matter and can be emotionally charged for all parties involved. If you have any thoughts or experiences on this topic, feel free to share them with us. And if you're engaged again, you might want to consider having a conversation with your partner about expectations around engagement rings.

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